big HONKING birds wrote:
Are you . . .
Lamest post on LRC ever.
big HONKING birds wrote:
Are you . . .
Lamest post on LRC ever.
Good evening! How are all you LRC stable geniuses doing this fine PM?
kibitzer wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I have said this before, but it needs repeating...this is not the right way to think about this.
Justice should be served and the rule of law should be protected. We can't allow a president to remain in power just because he is incompetent if he is lawless. You should ALWAYS do what is right even if there is a consequence you don't like.
I understand your point but disagree. Impeachment is fundamentally a political process and it must be approached and evaluated in political terms. In such a case, "doing what is right" not only could but should IMO include a consideration of the action's overall effect on the country.
To use somebody else's hypothetical: Suppose a president simply decided to stop "presidenting" and just went to hang out in the Keys for a couple years. Congress certainly could and would impeach and convict him/her, and s/he'd be removed from office. But for what offense? What "high crime [or] misdemeanor"?
Well, for whatever the House said was impeachable. Congress *defines* what is a "high crime [or] misdemeanor" and that is a political decision. Once a president has been impeached and convicted, s/he is removed from office--the only Constitutional consequence--and then might be subject to criminal or civil charges and punishment, if any; but the political impeachment proceedings are entirely separate from any legal/judicial process and should be assessed separately.
As it happens, I seriously doubt that DJT would be impeached and convicted in any case, even by a Democratic-majority Congress; and I certainly hope he wouldn't be, because I think the country would be better served overall by avoiding a Pence presidency.
Well, like I said, you aren't looking at this correctly. There is definitely a possibility that info will come out that will make impeachment not only possible but necessary...even if Democrats don't retake the House and Senate.
Mike Pence couldn't whip up a salad let alone a crowd of people to get motivated to follow him. Trump is WAY more dangerous.
Mueller is coming, and...
The clown is done, but...
I also just ordered a new sweatshirt:
http://dzasv7x7a867v.cloudfront.net/product_photos/17860944/kanye_cigar1_whiteCREWNECK_400w.png
What is the worst for Trump this week?
1. Refuses to release the memo, which further proves that he does not want the public to know the truth
2. Stock market troubles
3. The military parade being opposed by pretty much everyone
4. Supporting a women beater
5. The video of his Darth Vadar like head after the wind exposes the comb over we all know he has
I'm going #5 as Trump clearly values physical appearance over honesty, character, and the financial well being of others.
What is the worst wrote:
What is the worst for Trump this week?
1. Refuses to release the memo, which further proves that he does not want the public to know the truth
2. Stock market troubles
3. The military parade being opposed by pretty much everyone
4. Supporting a women beater
5. The video of his Darth Vadar like head after the wind exposes the comb over we all know he has
I'm going #5 as Trump clearly values physical appearance over honesty, character, and the financial well being of others.
I will go with #6, Mueller is still coming.............
There is a reason for #1. That reason is......he knows he's a corrupt, insecure, lying fraud who is about to be exposed as the horrible money laundering traitor that he is.
What is the worst wrote:
What is the worst for Trump this week?
1. Refuses to release the memo, which further proves that he does not want the public to know the truth
2. Stock market troubles
3. The military parade being opposed by pretty much everyone
4. Supporting a women beater
5. The video of his Darth Vadar like head after the wind exposes the comb over we all know he has
I'm going #5 as Trump clearly values physical appearance over honesty, character, and the financial well being of others.
LOL . . . ROFLOF . . . Trump will soon be the fattest president of all time. . . . He already has a YUGE double chin, and will compete with McConnell for the BIGLIEST turkey neck.
Robert M wrote:
What is the worst wrote:
What is the worst for Trump this week?
1. Refuses to release the memo, which further proves that he does not want the public to know the truth
2. Stock market troubles
3. The military parade being opposed by pretty much everyone
4. Supporting a women beater
5. The video of his Darth Vadar like head after the wind exposes the comb over we all know he has
I'm going #5 as Trump clearly values physical appearance over honesty, character, and the financial well being of others.
I will go with #6, Mueller is still coming.............
There is a reason for #1. That reason is......he knows he's a corrupt, insecure, lying fraud who is about to be exposed as the horrible money laundering traitor that he is.
A normal person in Trump's position would fear #1 and Mueller the most. But I think being ridiculed due to that video of his comb over, cuts him to the core. He is the one who likes to ridicule others based on appearance, but his fragile ego is devastated by this.
This has been a horrible week for Trump and for those who think Trump can do no wrong.
Flagpole wrote:
Mueller is coming, and...
The clown is done, but...
I also just ordered a new sweatshirt:
http://dzasv7x7a867v.cloudfront.net/product_photos/17860944/kanye_cigar1_whiteCREWNECK_400w.png
What a cool sweatshirt! Your son is going to like that great gift.
The clown is being exposed and is fearful.
Trump is going down and he is putting the repubs in a tough spot.
(Yes I was busting on you about the sweatshirt))
Rigged for Trump. wrote:
More boom!
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/09/donald-trump-russia-election-nsa/
What kind of super-secret security agency negotiates with the Russians through its twitter account? Just sayin’
If you’re going to weaponize the internet you better make sure you’ve got the technical nuts. Poor NSA. Their cyber weapons were stolen and are now loose online. My heart bleeds.
obvious problem wrote:
What kind of super-secret security agency negotiates with the Russians through its twitter account? Just sayin’
If you’re going to weaponize the internet you better make sure you’ve got the technical nuts. Poor NSA. Their cyber weapons were stolen and are now loose online. My heart bleeds.
Trump is the one who weaponized Twitter, and negotiates with it.
The FBI caught a fool. The person of interest did not have proof of what Trump did in the dossier. A price of $100k to prove should make fans of Trump happy, rather than continue to attack the FBI.
What is the worst wrote:
What is the worst for Trump this week?
1. Refuses to release the memo, which further proves that he does not want the public to know the truth
2. Stock market troubles
3. The military parade being opposed by pretty much everyone
4. Supporting a women beater
5. The video of his Darth Vadar like head after the wind exposes the comb over we all know he has
.
Actually, with all due respect, you left out the worst. C'mon man. It somewhat ties into #2 (i.e. financial category). It's the reason all right wingers have gone silent on here: the reality that the spending bill just signed, on top of the tax cuts, are blowing up the debt proving Trump and Repubs to be complete and utter frauds on fiscal matters. They fought Obama and Dems on every spending measure, said we needed "AUSTERITY!!", blasted the Stimulus bill, have attacked Dems forever for being "out of control spenders and debt creators", all in the name of not "SADDLING OUR CHILDREN WITH DEBT! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!"
And now, ***once again*** (it's happened so many other times), they've proven themselves hypocrites, frauds, and dishonest on this topic.
Trump promised to eliminate our debt in 8 years! Yet another hilarious lie.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1418/eliminate-federal-debt-8-years/https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2018/01/state-union-debt-deficit/551978/More hilarity-
"Last May, the Trump administration released a budget projecting the United States would swing from a deficit of $440 billion in 2018 to a surplus of $16 billion in 2027."
Instead, the opposite has happened as Washington has opened the spending spigot in ways once unimaginable to the Republicans’ fiscal discipline wing.
On Friday, Congress passed a bipartisan spending deal that blows through the caps imposed by the 2011 Budget Control Act, unlocking $300 billion in additional spending for the military and domestic programs over the next two years. That comes on top of last year’s $1.5 trillion tax cut package and as the White House prepares to unveil on Monday a $1.5 trillion infrastructure plan that would require $200 billion in government funding.
The long-term implications of all this borrowing put the United States on track to ultimately owe more to its creditors than the economy produces over the course of a year. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget projects that the United States will run $2 trillion annual budget deficits by 2027 and have a debt-to-gross domestic product ratio of 105 percent — a level not seen since the end of World War II.
“With this deal, we will experience trillion-dollar deficits permanently,” said Andy Roth, vice president of the conservative Club for Growth. “That sort of behavior, the last time I checked, is not in the Republican platform.”
Some budget experts have pointed out that the budget deal, which Mr. Trump supports, is more costly than the fiscal plan that Hillary Clinton proposed during her 2016 presidential campaign.
Paul Winfree, an economist at the conservative Heritage Foundation, calculated that the 2019 base level of nondefense discretionary spending surpasses what President Barack Obama sought in his final budget request.
“This is getting comical,” Mr. Winfree, who recently left a job as an economic adviser to Mr. Trump, said in a post on Twitter.
he Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget projects that the two-year deal would set the stage for $1.7 trillion in additional deficits over the next 10 years because Congress will be operating from a higher budget baseline and will be unlikely to adopt a fresh round of austerity.
“This is the new baseline,” said Steve Bell, a senior adviser at the Bipartisan Policy Center and former Republican staff director of the Senate Budget Committee. “With this and the tax cuts, a balanced budget becomes a pipe dream.”
“Republicans were very concerned about debt and deficits during President Obama’s two terms in office. Then their concern kind of evaporated,” said Michael R. Strain, an economist at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. “
Are these new jobs all shovel ready?
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
What is the worst wrote:
What is the worst for Trump this week?
1. Refuses to release the memo, which further proves that he does not want the public to know the truth
2. Stock market troubles
3. The military parade being opposed by pretty much everyone
4. Supporting a women beater
5. The video of his Darth Vadar like head after the wind exposes the comb over we all know he has
.
Actually, with all due respect, you left out the worst. C'mon man. It somewhat ties into #2 (i.e. financial category). It's the reason all right wingers have gone silent on here: the reality that the spending bill just signed, on top of the tax cuts, are blowing up the debt proving Trump and Repubs to be complete and utter frauds on fiscal matters. They fought Obama and Dems on every spending measure, said we needed "AUSTERITY!!", blasted the Stimulus bill, have attacked Dems forever for being "out of control spenders and debt creators", all in the name of not "SADDLING OUR CHILDREN WITH DEBT! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!"
And now, ***once again*** (it's happened so many other times), they've proven themselves hypocrites, frauds, and dishonest on this topic.
Trump promised to eliminate our debt in 8 years! Yet another hilarious lie.
I agree Republicans are frauds when it comes to fiscal responsibility. However, neither Democrats nor Republicans have any fiscal responsibility whatsoever. We need to increase taxes and decrease expenditures until we have this under control. It will never happen because politicians can’t get elected on such a platform. Both parties want “free stuff” and are sending the bill to our children and grandchildren.
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
More hilarity-
"Last May, the Trump administration released a budget projecting the United States would swing from a deficit of $440 billion in 2018 to a surplus of $16 billion in 2027."
Instead, the opposite has happened as Washington has opened the spending spigot in ways once unimaginable to the Republicans’ fiscal discipline wing.
On Friday, Congress passed a bipartisan spending deal that blows through the caps imposed by the 2011 Budget Control Act, unlocking $300 billion in additional spending for the military and domestic programs over the next two years. That comes on top of last year’s $1.5 trillion tax cut package and as the White House prepares to unveil on Monday a $1.5 trillion infrastructure plan that would require $200 billion in government funding.
The long-term implications of all this borrowing put the United States on track to ultimately owe more to its creditors than the economy produces over the course of a year. The nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget projects that the United States will run $2 trillion annual budget deficits by 2027 and have a debt-to-gross domestic product ratio of 105 percent — a level not seen since the end of World War II.
“With this deal, we will experience trillion-dollar deficits permanently,” said Andy Roth, vice president of the conservative Club for Growth. “That sort of behavior, the last time I checked, is not in the Republican platform.”
Some budget experts have pointed out that the budget deal, which Mr. Trump supports, is more costly than the fiscal plan that Hillary Clinton proposed during her 2016 presidential campaign.
Paul Winfree, an economist at the conservative Heritage Foundation, calculated that the 2019 base level of nondefense discretionary spending surpasses what President Barack Obama sought in his final budget request.
“This is getting comical,” Mr. Winfree, who recently left a job as an economic adviser to Mr. Trump, said in a post on Twitter.
he Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget projects that the two-year deal would set the stage for $1.7 trillion in additional deficits over the next 10 years because Congress will be operating from a higher budget baseline and will be unlikely to adopt a fresh round of austerity.
“This is the new baseline,” said Steve Bell, a senior adviser at the Bipartisan Policy Center and former Republican staff director of the Senate Budget Committee. “With this and the tax cuts, a balanced budget becomes a pipe dream.”
“Republicans were very concerned about debt and deficits during President Obama’s two terms in office. Then their concern kind of evaporated,” said Michael R. Strain, an economist at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. “
Good to see that the Dems have become such fiscal conservatives these days.
Perhaps, after Obama they saw the light.
Both ways wrote:
Good to see that the Dems have become such fiscal conservatives these days.
Perhaps, after Obama they saw the light.
lol, nice spin.
Dems aren't suddenly becoming "fiscal conservatives" nor "seeing the light after Obama" on deficits. No, they are pointing out the absurd level of hypocrisy by Repubs and you know it. And many of those quoted are right wingers aghast at the R's hypocrisy. Except they are not surprised, because they've seen it again and again: R's flip out about "WE WILL BECOME GREECE!! GREECE I TELLS YA!" when not in power, and block every spending bill as wasteful, and declare the debt the "BIGGEST THREAT TO OUR NATION!", and crucify D's for having the Debt rise during their tenure, but as soon as R's get a chance to call the shots, they blow the debt to the moon with unneeded tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires, huge unnecessary military spending increases, and more spending increases to reward their donors (and yes, don't touch the social welfare/safety net they claim they will "Fix", because their base is actually full of old people and poor whites who rely on/want these things).
They've proven themselves to be the ultimate BS artists, with Trump the perfect leader/liar for them. The Tea Party is dead (now that the Black Guy with The Funny Name is gone).
You know this spot on, 100% true.
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
Both ways wrote:
Good to see that the Dems have become such fiscal conservatives these days.
Perhaps, after Obama they saw the light.
lol, nice spin.
Dems aren't suddenly becoming "fiscal conservatives" nor "seeing the light after Obama" on deficits. No, they are pointing out the absurd level of hypocrisy by Repubs and you know it. And many of those quoted are right wingers aghast at the R's hypocrisy. Except they are not surprised, because they've seen it again and again: R's flip out about "WE WILL BECOME GREECE!! GREECE I TELLS YA!" when not in power, and block every spending bill as wasteful, and declare the debt the "BIGGEST THREAT TO OUR NATION!", and crucify D's for having the Debt rise during their tenure, but as soon as R's get a chance to call the shots, they blow the debt to the moon with unneeded tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires, huge unnecessary military spending increases, and more spending increases to reward their donors (and yes, don't touch the social welfare/safety net they claim they will "Fix", because their base is actually full of old people and poor whites who rely on/want these things).
They've proven themselves to be the ultimate BS artists, with Trump the perfect leader/liar for them. The Tea Party is dead (now that the Black Guy with The Funny Name is gone).
You know this spot on, 100% true.
CORRECT!!!
foo wrote:
Tyrone ReXXXing wrote:
Actually, with all due respect, you left out the worst. C'mon man. It somewhat ties into #2 (i.e. financial category). It's the reason all right wingers have gone silent on here: the reality that the spending bill just signed, on top of the tax cuts, are blowing up the debt proving Trump and Repubs to be complete and utter frauds on fiscal matters. They fought Obama and Dems on every spending measure, said we needed "AUSTERITY!!", blasted the Stimulus bill, have attacked Dems forever for being "out of control spenders and debt creators", all in the name of not "SADDLING OUR CHILDREN WITH DEBT! THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!"
And now, ***once again*** (it's happened so many other times), they've proven themselves hypocrites, frauds, and dishonest on this topic.
Trump promised to eliminate our debt in 8 years! Yet another hilarious lie.
I agree Republicans are frauds when it comes to fiscal responsibility. However, neither Democrats nor Republicans have any fiscal responsibility whatsoever. We need to increase taxes and decrease expenditures until we have this under control. It will never happen because politicians can’t get elected on such a platform. Both parties want “free stuff” and are sending the bill to our children and grandchildren.
This is true.
Night observer wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Mueller is coming, and...
The clown is done, but...
I also just ordered a new sweatshirt:
http://dzasv7x7a867v.cloudfront.net/product_photos/17860944/kanye_cigar1_whiteCREWNECK_400w.pngWhat a cool sweatshirt! Your son is going to like that great gift.
The clown is being exposed and is fearful.
Trump is going down and he is putting the repubs in a tough spot.
(Yes I was busting on you about the sweatshirt))
It is a badass sweatshirt.
