Returning the vote to the state legislatures isn't a violent insurrection.
We've been over this. You get corrected and humiliated and then just repeat your lies that you were corrected and humiliated on. That's mentally ill behavior. Like some kind of syndrome.
Pence wasn't being asked to "return the vote to the state legislatures." I posted a link to YOU in this very thread (page 51, Post #1001) to the Eastman Memo that sent to Pence. You shielded yourself from the Eastman Memo's contents because they emotionally upset you. But here it is again.
Paragraph 3: "Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected." That is what Pence was told to do by Trump after rejecting the electoral votes that Trump told him to reject (also in the Eastman Memo).
The Indictments don't say the conspiracy was necessary violent. Violence isn't needed or alleged for most, if not all, Counts. You got corrected on that strawman earlier as well.
That memo doesn't say what you've been told it says.
Find a grown up and have them walk through point 6 with you.
I haven't been arrested for committing a crime, much less multiple times for multiple crimes. And with that I am in zero danger of going to prison. Trump, not so much..
If the entire DoJ and FBI were dedicated to making that happen you would.
Oh you poor thing. You think it takes the whole DOJ and FBI to level straight forward criminal charges against Donald Trump and his cronies.
I get it. Without the grand conspiracy, your whole world view comes tumbling down.
Why? Because Mark Meadows wants it to move? Good luck with that.
A former president is very likely to get the case moved to federal court and everyone else will get dragged along with him.
You have no idea how the court system works. The federal government has no jurisdiction over state court. The state charges that he faces will stay in state court. Do you ever tire of being wrong?
A former president is very likely to get the case moved to federal court and everyone else will get dragged along with him.
You have no idea how the court system works. The federal government has no jurisdiction over state court. The state charges that he faces will stay in state court. Do you ever tire of being wrong?
We've been over this. You get corrected and humiliated and then just repeat your lies that you were corrected and humiliated on. That's mentally ill behavior. Like some kind of syndrome.
Pence wasn't being asked to "return the vote to the state legislatures." I posted a link to YOU in this very thread (page 51, Post #1001) to the Eastman Memo that sent to Pence. You shielded yourself from the Eastman Memo's contents because they emotionally upset you. But here it is again.
Paragraph 3: "Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected." That is what Pence was told to do by Trump after rejecting the electoral votes that Trump told him to reject (also in the Eastman Memo).
The Indictments don't say the conspiracy was necessary violent. Violence isn't needed or alleged for most, if not all, Counts. You got corrected on that strawman earlier as well.
That memo doesn't say what you've been told it says.
Find a grown up and have them walk through point 6 with you.
Did you go to Baltimore public schools too? You're as half-literate as NoYankee.
Eastman Memo, Paragraph 6: "The main thing here is that Pence should do this without asking for permission – either from a vote of the joint session or from the Court. Let the other side challenge his actions in court, where Tribe (who in 2001 conceded the President of the Senate might be in charge of counting the votes) and others who would press a lawsuit would have their past position -- that these are non-justiciable political questions – thrown back at them, to get the lawsuit dismissed. The fact is that the Constitution assigns this power to the Vice President as the ultimate arbiter. We should take all of our actions with that in mind."
Those Eastman Memo statements are some of the prosecution's key pieces of evidence against Trump and Eastman, and you are too ignorant and whacked to understand what they even mean, much less why they are VERY BAD statements for you Trump fans. The Eastman Memo is going to be a PROSECUTION exhibit at trial, and all testimony about the Eastman Memo from prosecution witnesses (nearly all of whom are Republicans) will be unrebutted by Trump because (1) he won't take the stand and (2) Eastman already pled the Fifth (i.e, pled guilty) when asked about it.
But YOU should keep talking about the Eastman Memo. Please post more of your thoughts on the Eastman Memo. Make the Eastman Memo your focus for the remainder of this week.
You have no idea how the court system works. The federal government has no jurisdiction over state court. The state charges that he faces will stay in state court. Do you ever tire of being wrong?
Oh you poor thing. You think it takes the whole DOJ and FBI to level straight forward criminal charges against Donald Trump and his cronies.
I get it. Without the grand conspiracy, your whole world view comes tumbling down.
Moreover, two of the indictments are on state charges. The DOJ and FBI had nothing to do with them.
Aren't all of the Fulton County Indictments on Georgia state charges? I don't think any state or county can charge a federal crime.
Meadows' removal notice/motion is confusing (mostly because I can't find a copy of it - the US media has a habit of reporting on stuff that they won't allow you to read yourself), but I believe anyone charged with committing crimes stemming from their work as a federal employee or agent, can automatically remove their case to federal court. So I think Trump and Meadows can do this for sure. Some of the others probably can too.
That memo doesn't say what you've been told it says.
Find a grown up and have them walk through point 6 with you.
Did you go to Baltimore public schools too? You're as half-literate as NoYankee.
Eastman Memo, Paragraph 6: "The main thing here is that Pence should do this without asking for permission – either from a vote of the joint session or from the Court. Let the other side challenge his actions in court, where Tribe (who in 2001 conceded the President of the Senate might be in charge of counting the votes) and others who would press a lawsuit would have their past position -- that these are non-justiciable political questions – thrown back at them, to get the lawsuit dismissed. The fact is that the Constitution assigns this power to the Vice President as the ultimate arbiter. We should take all of our actions with that in mind."
Those Eastman Memo statements are some of the prosecution's key pieces of evidence against Trump and Eastman, and you are too ignorant and whacked to understand what they even mean, much less why they are VERY BAD statements for you Trump fans. The Eastman Memo is going to be a PROSECUTION exhibit at trial, and all testimony about the Eastman Memo from prosecution witnesses (nearly all of whom are Republicans) will be unrebutted by Trump because (1) he won't take the stand and (2) Eastman already pled the Fifth (i.e, pled guilty) when asked about it.
But YOU should keep talking about the Eastman Memo. Please post more of your thoughts on the Eastman Memo. Make the Eastman Memo your focus for the remainder of this week.
All of which is done with full knowledge that it will end up in the courts just like it did in 2000.
If it was a coup like you people insist he would have just declared himself the victor and refused to leave office.
Moreover, two of the indictments are on state charges. The DOJ and FBI had nothing to do with them.
Aren't all of the Fulton County Indictments on Georgia state charges? I don't think any state or county can charge a federal crime.
Meadows' removal notice/motion is confusing (mostly because I can't find a copy of it - the US media has a habit of reporting on stuff that they won't allow you to read yourself), but I believe anyone charged with committing crimes stemming from their work as a federal employee or agent, can automatically remove their case to federal court. So I think Trump and Meadows can do this for sure. Some of the others probably can too.
Aren't all of the Fulton County Indictments on Georgia state charges? I don't think any state or county can charge a federal crime.
Meadows' removal notice/motion is confusing (mostly because I can't find a copy of it - the US media has a habit of reporting on stuff that they won't allow you to read yourself), but I believe anyone charged with committing crimes stemming from their work as a federal employee or agent, can automatically remove their case to federal court. So I think Trump and Meadows can do this for sure. Some of the others probably can too.
In the opinion of the "expert commentator" in the post #1897 of the thread, Meadows has a plausible case for removal because he's acting as the chief of staff of the POTUS while Trump does not because he was acting as a candidate for office in this context.
She also made the point that Meadows is very likely cooperating with Jack Smith on the federal charges.
Here is my take on a few of the right wingers fighting the hard fight for Trump on these boards.
A-Dolt in the room. He is a troll. He may or may not believe any of what he posts, he just likes to counter everything that is posted on every single thread. If a Democrat says Water is wet, he will say it is not and you are duped by deep state media for believing such. Over, and over and over. In the real world he might be an entirely different person in public. He is addicted to this antagonistic routine here. He does it on every thread. Covid, Russia, etc.
Sally Vix: Simply not very smart. But definitely a right winger. She or he comes on the board and displays immense ignorance and the latest talking points from Fox like "No Comment" on Maui and thinks it is a big time gotcha. She hates Biden but can't articulate much about it. Grooming, pedophilia, abortion, communism yada yada yada.
NoYankee:
Wow. He seems to be a true Trumper. Maybe even has a Brandon bumper sticker and a Trump poster like Rambo above his bed. He will post the most batsh!t stuff he can find from trusted journalistic sources like "realm*gapatriots2ndamendmentfortruth" and think he is making a point.
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