Mr. Renato Canova: Could You Please Answer a Question About Effective Ways to Improve the Lactate Threshold?

not enough time wrote:

Could someone who has been following this thread for a while write up a summary of what useful training info has been given? It looks like a great thread, but I don't really have the time to spend going through 1800+ posts with finals coming up.

I'll try:

Run lots, train specifically for your event, train hard and don't give up.

Okay, that's really too short.

No, you don't know me, and YOU should have realized before posting that what you were about to say fell under the category of "ridiculous."

Lads,is there a quality coach out there that can coach me over the internet?Im doing everything alone at the moment using lactates etc but need some proper advice.

Eddy Helleybuck used to have some service, but as he is a convicted drug using scoundrel and cheater, you might give him a pass.

Former American record holder Marc Davis (8:13 2 mile) has a site lap2go.com and I believe he coaches.

Pete Pfitzinger, twice American Olympic Trials marathon champion, has a site pfitzinger.com and he coaches.

On this site, we have seen some great coaches: John Kellogg, Tinman, Joe Rubio, Hadd, and of course, Renato and Antonio. I do not know how many of these guys offer to coach people, but you might give it a try.

A lot of people say Internet coaches are not ideal, so try and see if you can find someone in your area who knows about training distance runners. There is an essential difference day to day in speaking with a coach face to face and having he or she watch exactly what you are doing and how you are responding to the training they are providing you.

Mike Bautista--It is good to see you back. I noted your site has returned. This will be a good season at 5,000m with perhaps some more world records after "weak" years from 2000-2003.

Don't be surprised to see Augustine Choge medal in Helsinki 5000 as well as run under 12:50 this year. Did anyone see him jogging in WJXC? I think renato has referred before to his great talent and prospects. BUt for sure, the 5k is hot this year....

What about his jogging?

Was it an especially fast jog?

And 12:57 to 12:50 is a big, big jump, even for a talented guy.

Is he another Kenyan that is supposed to be 13 years old or whatever the devil it is the federation passes them off as?

I have to speak about everyone who says the 1500m Wr will come down to 3:22-3:25. This is ridiculous. Hicham El G spent from 1995 to 2004 going after this record probably over 100 times, every time he did a 1500m he declatred a record attempt. And he ran 3:26 in 1998. He ran more than 80 1500's after that, many times 3:28 and 3:29, a few times 3:27, and even 4 other times in the 3:26's, but never again that recor.d He ecen went through 1200 in 2:44 and missed it! So who the heck do you think is going to run 3:22! that's an incredible record, but all the so-called experts downplay it more than the others, almost saying it is one of the easiest to breka. But who will break it? 3:22 is 53 seconds per lap! Never, nevr will we see that. that;s 1:46 at 800, absolutely no chance in the universe.

El Guerrouj should have broken it when he split 2:44.75 at Rieti. He frittered it away with a 42.21 last 300; too slow.

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El Guerrouj should have broken it when he split 2:44.75 at Rieti. He frittered it away with a 42.21 last 300; too slow.

the 1500 record will fall sooner or later. every record shall fall sooner or later. so many people are running faster than ever, especially over the longer distances. it will fall. the next el g is coming, trust me on that.

That's not true; you'll agree, I hope, that we'll never see a sub-12:00 5K (which would be about 3:52 mile pace). I doubt there are even drugs that would enable that.

The issue if doping in sport is a big problem, and simply, there is not a strong enough program in place.

It is a sad reflection that track is the LEADER in doping prevention yet so far behind.

In baseball, the players get "3 strikes"! This is ridiculous. One offense, a lifetime ban. This is what it needs to be in all cases, no exceptions. If you cheat, and break the sporting law, and defraud others, there is no place for you.

nk wrote:

My mistake, I screwed up 2003, where he was 13-3. You get the point; he's still 113-9, and the suggestion at hand is ridiculous.

Yes I'm sure Eluid Kipchoge is at least 113 years of age. Thank you for pointing this out.

Can anyone post the athletes that Canova has coached through his lifetime? Italians and others

1500m Man wrote:

3:22 is 53 seconds per lap! Never, nevr will we see that. that;s 1:46 at 800, absolutely no chance in the universe.

54 pace is 3:22.5, which is 1:48 for 800 meters.

observer of taking up space wrote:

Yes I'm sure Eluid Kipchoge is at least 113 years of age. Thank you for pointing this out.

You're a complete moron.

Not only can you not SPELL (a skill most acquire in the 5th grade), but you also cannot READ. Try again, then maybe you'll get it. As an aside, I note your other "contributions" on this thread fall into the "worthless muck" category. Perhaps you should run along back to Dyestat.com. There are plenty of pimple popping 15 year old trolls over there to occupy your time.

mathematician wrote:

54 pace is 3:22.5, which is 1:48 for 800 meters.

3:22.00 is 53.87 per lap, or, roughly, "53." That would be 1:47-point at 800; it's semantics. The guy probably meant that whatever the pace, there won't be anyone doing almost 4 straight 53 laps anytime soon.

Bump

We can't let this fall to page 11 on the board...

Why doesn't Renato answer the question:

How DO you improve the lactate threshold?

I especially enjoy it when great running discussions like these are frittered away and threads about Webb vs. Ritz and who would win in a croquet match at 5000 feet below sea level wins the day.

C'mon.

In addition, what ever happened to that little series planned discussing in installments the various training of Kenyans and how to alter the program when obstacles or problems arose?

I believe that was bandied about during March cross-country season but it never happened.

What about for track?

Mi wrote:

Why doesn't Renato answer the question:

How DO you improve the lactate threshold?

I especially enjoy it when great running discussions like these are frittered away and threads about Webb vs. Ritz and who would win in a croquet match at 5000 feet below sea level wins the day.

C'mon.

why don't you read his posts on this thread?