We don't need a million thread on this topic. We like one thread per topic. We merged several others into this thread including one called "Alex Pretti was a deranged lunatic." and one called "New York Times reports that Pretti attacked ICE cars 11 days before his death" and one called "LeBron James: Why hasn't he commented on the Alex Pretti killing?"
I’m aware it’s true. It still makes you a paranoid boomer lol
According to my research a Boomer was born between 1946 and 1964, so my father. Millennial here! However, at my gym this morning most of the men there are Boomers because everyone else is at work! LOL. Pretti should've been at work instead of Virtue Signaling.
All of my stances are libertarian. “The government shouldn’t shoot unarmed citizens”
You disagree?
They should if he’s armed for war without notifying police and his hand is on a detonating device. The day we risk life in that situation for that lunatic is never gonna happen. Shoot first when under threat, ask questions later. you can’t ask questions when you’re dead, ask Pretti.
I’m aware it’s true. It still makes you a paranoid boomer lol
According to my research a Boomer was born between 1946 and 1964, so my father. Millennial here! However, at my gym this morning most of the men there are Boomers because everyone else is at work! LOL. Pretti should've been at work instead of Virtue Signaling.
A millennial who acts like a boomer. I’m sorry man, that’s tough
If ice executed two citizens in the same circumstances as Pretti and Good + detained dozens of citizens without cause + did a bunch of warrantless searches and lied about it — all under Biden…
There would be huge protests.
Obama shows how you can be tough on immigration and not trample the constitution
BS!!!!!!!!
Remind me again of all of those HUGE protests by Conservatives AFTER Laken Riley and several others were killed by illegals that Biden let in?
Why are you embarrassed of being a progressive liberal? Why do you get so mad when you’re called out on it. All the liberals I know are proud of it. Weird.
Is “government agents shouldn’t kill unarmed citizens” now a “progressive liberal” position?
That would explain Trumps horrible polling, come to think of it…
More big protests today and tomorrow. Trump inspired facism is trying to get a grip, but there will be resistance.
Thousands and thousands of people will protest tomorrow, which will probably become the biggest protest in human history, like no one has ever seen. Meanwhile a few trumpets are still here, in a political thread on a runners forum, claiming they represent the majority.
All of my stances are libertarian. “The government shouldn’t shoot unarmed citizens”
You disagree?
They should if he’s armed for war without notifying police and his hand is on a detonating device. The day we risk life in that situation for that lunatic is never gonna happen. Shoot first when under threat, ask questions later. you can’t ask questions when you’re dead, ask Pretti.
Congrats, you’re officially a fascist.
The ICE agents weren’t under threat, Pretty never had "his hands on a detonating device".
They are conducting raids on BAD BAD PEOPLE that you as a 66 year old supports...absolutely sickening----and you are a grandpa? Despicable at best.
Obama had the same raids and had ice to the same.
What's the biggest difference? Are you really THAT dense to not know?
Trump is in charge. Liberals lost an election that the supposed EXPERTS said would be a landslide. They are angry. NOW, when ICE shows up, they protest. Conservatives didn't do that and in fact supported Obama for the efforts of ICE when he was in Office.
Do YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE for even one minute that if Biden were in Office and the same arrest were happening, there'd be the same protest? You have to be demented to an exponential level to believe such nonsense.
No, instead he let in 8 to 10 million and of course, you as a liberal were fine with that.
The protests HAVE NOT been peaceful, that is a complete lie. What bloody planet are you living on up there in Upstate New York? They are in the streets all over Minnesota throwing things at ICE and many were pushing them without being arrested.
YOU sir are the problem with your party. Complete lies. You will cherry pick 2 incidents and forget the dozens and dozens of violent acts against ICE. Try going out in your street, stand there and stop a car by pressing on their hood and see what happens when the police arrive. You will be going to jail sir, jail.
Posters like runn are a HUGE part of the problem. You need help sir as you are less than 4 years from 70 and are losing it. Bias, sure. Lying like you did and calling them facts, YIKES!
If ice executed two citizens in the same circumstances as Pretti and Good + detained dozens of citizens without cause + did a bunch of warrantless searches and lied about it — all under Biden…
There would be huge protests.
Obama shows how you can be tough on immigration and not trample the constitution
You must have been really upset with all the detentions of US citizens caused by Obama’s immigration policies.
If ice executed two citizens in the same circumstances as Pretti and Good + detained dozens of citizens without cause + did a bunch of warrantless searches and lied about it — all under Biden…
There would be huge protests.
Obama shows how you can be tough on immigration and not trample the constitution
You must have been really upset with all the detentions of US citizens caused by Obama’s immigration policies.
Obama's admin also played fast and loose with the Constitution. That doesn't justify Trump or Biden or whoever doing the same.
James Okeefe went to Minneapolis as reporter. He was immediately confronted and asked for ID's by the protesters. Suddenly the gang was there and he was mandated to leave or take a potentially deadly beatdown. His hotel was communicating closely with the gang. The second hotel he was still in danger including receiving a death threat from a burner phone.
Propaganda outlets are providing cover for a militant group impeding law enforcement. These agitators will agitate hoping for there George Floyd moment so they can start their insurrection against a law abiding goverment. These are not peaceful protest. Only an Antifa reporter is allowed in that area.
If ice executed two citizens in the same circumstances as Pretti and Good + detained dozens of citizens without cause + did a bunch of warrantless searches and lied about it — all under Biden…
There would be huge protests.
Obama shows how you can be tough on immigration and not trample the constitution
You must have been really upset with all the detentions of US citizens caused by Obama’s immigration policies.
Or when Walz’ paramilitary was marching down the streets of Minneapolis shooting hard paint bullets at people on their front porches to “enforce” curfew during the Covid/George Floyd kabuki theatre era. You see, “centrist libertarians” only allow for and accept certain kinds of authoritarianism and exercise of constitutional rights. Sitting on your porch is completely uncalled for and beyond the pale. But impeding a Federal operation with your vehicle and bringing a weapon to a “peaceful” protest while vandalizing Federal property?? 100% A ok.
One thing I see that hasn't been addressed is the fact he had a conceal carry permit and was carrying a weapon in both videos. If you went thru conceal carry class, you are instructed about Duty to Retreat. Either he didn't listen to all the instruction, or completely failed it. I am not condoning any behaviour. Duty to Retreat taught you to be aware of your surroundings,OBLIGATED to stay away from any type of conflict, and you have a higher responsibility to follow these due to you carrying a weapon. I agree that he had a right to carry, I won't dispute that whatsoever. I think he lost all his training when, 1-he decided to carry while protesting. 2-he injected himself into a situation(directing traffic in one video) where he didn't need to(law enforcement is tasked with directing traffic). 3-ICE was in the area and conducting arrests. 4-any interaction with law enforcement when you are conceal carrying introduces lethal force to them. Through my training, 1-I would never conceal carry to protest 2-I would stay on sidewalk 3-If I did carry and got into the street, I would have walked back to sidewalk. 4-If I interacted with ICE, I would have raised my hands up away from my gun(this is the poiint where I'm introducing lethal force to law enforcement, and by raising my hands I am reducing any tension, etc). I would also verbally state I have a conceal carry permit and I have a weapon. Of course this is easy to say at this point, but my experiences have taught me to act responsibly. Now we have the video of him 11 days prior. This really shows his true behaviour. According to witnesses, he drove up, got out of his vehicle, and started on his rant. we just see his rant and spitting. He is injecting himself into situations that you are taught to stay away from. You see him spitting and kicking a law enforcement vehicle, so at this point I really have to question his decision making process. All his training is out the window. Not following anything he was taught. He made that decision. Now here it is. If ICE had arrested him and he was convicted, he would have lost the right to carry, as his permit would have been revoked. Unfortunately, the Hennepin County legal system doesn't work that fast. Rights are not shields. The laws of our land are there for a reason and they will evaluate your actions. This was so preventable, as I see it through my experiences and training. But again, hindsight is 20/20.
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