Trolls beware, the US just indicted a bunch of Russians for trolling Americans on social media.

#1 How did Trump obstruct justice? During the campaign? None of his actions as President seem to meet a legal standard (as you desire), as he has authority to act as Executive. Clinton, on the other hand, clearly did obstruct justice when meddling (to use the modern word) with the Paula Jones case (witnesses, investigators), but then, he wasn't acting as Executive.

Similarly Nixon, I should add, he gave instructions to subordinates which were contrary to law, whereas Trump (to anyone's knowledge) has only done things which he has authority to do (e.g. firing people).

The only thing USA indicted is themselves for being utterly stupid. If you let facebook posts influence your choice of a candidate and you don't inform yourself about them from trustworthy sources, then you deserve whatever is coming to you. Sadly USA doesn't have many trustworthy sources, as absolute majority of media is private owned, therefore biased. Also, Hillary commited crimes, but didn't get indicted, she rigged the election against Bernie and also didn't get indicted. FBI knew about the Florida shooter, but did nothing about it. Instead, investigate and indict 13 loosers from Russia for posting on facebook. What a pathetic mock up of a country you are. 'Muricans, why you so stupid???

Sincerely, the rest of the world.

Artojas wrote:

The only thing USA indicted is themselves for being utterly stupid. If you let facebook posts influence your choice of a candidate and you don't inform yourself about them from trustworthy sources, then you deserve whatever is coming to you. Sadly USA doesn't have many trustworthy sources, as absolute majority of media is private owned, therefore biased. Also, Hillary commited crimes, but didn't get indicted, she rigged the election against Bernie and also didn't get indicted. FBI knew about the Florida shooter, but did nothing about it. Instead, investigate and indict 13 loosers from Russia for posting on facebook. What a pathetic mock up of a country you are. 'Muricans, why you so stupid???

Sincerely, the rest of the world.

Certainly you are not someone who is concerned with real threats to America and with finding out the TRUTH.

If you are American you ought to be ashamed because you weaken this country.

We need to find out everything about Russian interference. Let's uncover every rock and see what slimy creature lives there.

No excuses (everybody does it) no diversions (well investigate her or the media or the FBI instead) just a 100% effort to find out all the truth.

If you are against this, you have no love for this country. It's like an armed burglar is outside your house breaking in and you are upset and trying to find out who left dirty dishes in the sink.

Our democracy has never been as threatened (except WWII) and you people just don't get it. You seem so oblivious to the threat.

Back at 'ya wrote:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/sunday-review/russia-isnt-the-only-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html

If we did interfere with a foreign election by fraudulently pretending we were someone else, by sending mass misinformation to bend their election to our needs, if we were involved in illegally stealing and publishing emails to manipulate their Democratic election so that it benefits our people's needs instead of their people's needs.......I would expect them to fight like hell for their own people, investigate the hell out of what we did and to throw us out of theircountry.

And if any of their citizens did anything illegal to help the United States to subvert their process to put American needs over their own PEOPLE, they should be found out and dealt with through their legal channels.

I would expect nothing less.

The trolls are angry today... like an old man at a deli trying to return his soup.

The indictment explains some of how the Russians work. You should read it.

And yea, what about all the bad stuff the USA has done? It is our excellent "mainstream" press that finds it and brings it out.

Whatabout RT? I bet there is story after story about Putin's wealth? No?

We can trust our press to try to get the story and try to get it right.

Last, I enjoyed watching the OAR ladies cross-country relay crash and burn yesterday. Guess you aren't so good without the juice?

Losers.

81 is a lower bound wrote:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/governments-own-data-shows-us-interfered-in-81-foreign-elections/226143/

Just don't ever, ever, mention the sway Israel has over all of our politicians.

Amazing. Simply amazing. Trump was not exaggerating when he said if he shot someone in the middle of Times Square his supporters would still back him.

ManOverboard wrote:

How many of law enforcement resources have been diverted from actual crime prevention to be wasted on this frivolous Russia “election meddling” story?

Do you honestly think the FBI isn't capable of running multiple investigations at the same time?

The Russia investigation is run out of counterintelligence. The Miami field office of the FBI would have been monitoring the FL shooter. Very different groups within the FBI.

These indictments are far from frivolous. And there are many, many indictments on the way.

nontrumper wrote:

ManOverboard wrote:

How many of law enforcement resources have been diverted from actual crime prevention to be wasted on this frivolous Russia “election meddling” story?

Do you honestly think the FBI isn't capable of running multiple investigations at the same time?

The Russia investigation is run out of counterintelligence. The Miami field office of the FBI would have been monitoring the FL shooter. Very different groups within the FBI.

These indictments are far from frivolous. And there are many, many indictments on the way.

Stop talkin out your azz....You don't know if any more indictments are coming.....and still no Trump/Russia collusion which was the reason this investigation was started. You dummies just can't accept that you got your azzes whipped in the election....

YES! We must trace every meme to it's originator!!

LOL

wejo wrote:

Even unrelated to the indictments yesterday take 2 other prominent things from the last election - the Steele dossier and Hillary's email. Unless I'm reading it wrong, they both show Russians with their hands all over things related to the election.

* Those 2 thing weren't "prominent." They were 2 of 10,000 news stories during the election. I don't think mainstream news even covered the DNC emails. Everyone is writing their own narrative of the 2016 Election controversies to create some dramatic buildup of "bombshell" reports that led to Trump winning. In reality there was a new controversy every week and everyone believed the polls which showed Trump 5 pts behind for the entire election season.

* In the case of the Steele Dossier, the Hillary team sought out information from an former British spy who used his supposed Russian contacts to get information about Trump. Who knows whether this British spy actually contacted active members of Putin's regime, but for the sake of argument, let's say he did. That doesn't seem like some active efforts on the part of Russia to influence American voters in favor of any one candidate.

* In the case of "Hillary's emails," which are really a batch of DNC email chains some of which include Hillary as a CC, there is no evidence that Russians had anything to do with the DNC emails that Wikileaks got a hold of. The emails were downloaded onto a USB drive on-premise at the DNC.

* The presidential elections of 2012, 2008, etc. had their share of hacked email accounts, fake news, etc.

Why can't we put aside our tribal partisanship and simply agree that any credible allegations of wrongdoing by both parties be investigated and litigated without impugning the process? The threat to our country from outside interference is too real and important to be blocked by people trying to protect their parties. I'm a Democrat, but if Hillary is proven to have engaged in criminal misconduct, I support her being punished accordingly. Same for Trump. Shouldn't we care more that the law is being broken rather than by whom? The worst thing we can do is exactly what we're doing now - attacking each other and our institutions. The Russians are winning, because we're enthusiastically doing exactly what they want us to do.

Re: Steele Dossier

Wait until the pee tape is released. It is coming.

anyone with a decent brain, some researching skills, and a non-partisan approach could see the whole russia collusion/russia-trump thing was sensationalized from day one. mostly innuendo, distortion, and in some cases outright lies. the dems apparently have had much more to do with russian than the trump campaign ever did. i support trump. the guy destroyed the clinton machine to win the presidency and the dems still cant fathom it

‘How Did the Russians Know to Focus on Wisconsin But Hillary Didn’t?’

You are in deep denial. Just wait. Money Laundering and Obstruction of Justice are for sure going to happen.

Pole-flag wrote:

#1 How did Trump obstruct justice? During the campaign? None of his actions as President seem to meet a legal standard (as you desire), as he has authority to act as Executive. Clinton, on the other hand, clearly did obstruct justice when meddling (to use the modern word) with the Paula Jones case (witnesses, investigators), but then, he wasn't acting as Executive.

Similarly Nixon, I should add, he gave instructions to subordinates which were contrary to law, whereas Trump (to anyone's knowledge) has only done things which he has authority to do (e.g. firing people).

Your denial is strong.

Nixon had the authority to fire Archibald Cox, and he did, and that is what led to his resignation. Trump had the authority to fire Comey, and that is what led to the Special Counsel. You can't abuse power in this country. Trump has done that and Mueller will have an air tight case of obstruction of justice.