It would be nice to see that kind of generosity to those who beat him.
If you watch “Runluppa’s” collection of Jakob and Kerr interviews on YouTube you can see that Jakob speaks highly of Wightman after losing to him. But the problem is that Jakob also, in a later interview, presents his explanations / excuses. But this duality is very common among outspoken athletes (because our reality / world is complex, and a little of this and a little of that). If you only acknowledge a gentleman façade in interviews things will be very boring, and frankly a little dishonest..!
I haven't argued that there is no difference of magnitude between a kick off a slow pace and a kick off a fast pace. Of course there will be. But it isn't relevant to the point that great kickers can have that relative superiority off a fast as well as a slow pace. A kick isn't confined to slow pace races.
Great! You are now one step further. You understand to some extent that there is a difference in magnitude, even though you still feel the need to extinguish how a kick isnt confined to slow pace races, which is quite redundant when you can see that exact sentiment in the comment you are replying to. Anyways, you are grasping some new knowledge at least.
Now, are you able to see, also at some extent, the flaw in reasoning when you refer to specific runners as way better kickers(as an absolute) when we have never even seen them kick in races as fast as the ones today? Because they will of course appear to be greater kickers than Kerr,Wightman etc., when the races were slower.
I have seen the best kickers in the sport for sixty odd years. You haven't. Your opinions don't interest me, quite apart from your puffed-up belligerence.
Great! You are now one step further. You understand to some extent that there is a difference in magnitude, even though you still feel the need to extinguish how a kick isnt confined to slow pace races, which is quite redundant when you can see that exact sentiment in the comment you are replying to. Anyways, you are grasping some new knowledge at least.
Now, are you able to see, also at some extent, the flaw in reasoning when you refer to specific runners as way better kickers(as an absolute) when we have never even seen them kick in races as fast as the ones today? Because they will of course appear to be greater kickers than Kerr,Wightman etc., when the races were slower.
I have seen the best kickers in the sport for sixty odd years. You haven't. Your opinions don't interest me, quite apart from your puffed-up belligerence.
Your opinions don't interest anyone, and yet you keep on spewing them here. But hey! You are over 29,500 now!
It would be nice to see that kind of generosity to those who beat him.
If you watch “Runluppa’s” collection of Jakob and Kerr interviews on YouTube you can see that Jakob speaks highly of Wightman after losing to him. But the problem is that Jakob also, in a later interview, presents his explanations / excuses. But this duality is very common among outspoken athletes (because our reality / world is complex, and a little of this and a little of that). If you only acknowledge a gentleman façade in interviews things will be very boring, and frankly a little dishonest..!
Being a gentleman isn't a facade; you either are or you aren't. Bannister and Landy both showed that. I don't think an athlete has to be arrogant and condescending to his competition to be "interesting". What is interesting is how well they run. Being likeable and showing qualities of sportsmanship adds to it.
I have seen the best kickers in the sport for sixty odd years. You haven't. Your opinions don't interest me, quite apart from your puffed-up belligerence.
Your opinions don't interest anyone, and yet you keep on spewing them here. But hey! You are over 29,500 now!
You are stuck to my shoe like a piece of used chewing gum. For every post.
Being a gentleman isn't a facade; you either are or you aren't. Bannister and Landy both showed that. I don't think an athlete has to be arrogant and condescending to his competition to be "interesting". What is interesting is how well they run. Being likeable and showing qualities of sportsmanship adds to it.
I think being too much of a “gentleman” is a facade -even the most positive has thoughts and reasoning that not everyone agrees in…And I don’t think Jakob is all that condescending -Kerr begged for far far harsher comments than he got from Jakob when he claimed he “always have been very good” and now was the best in the world (because of the WC). But Jakob was silent, even for a long time despite Kerr also being personal and rather nasty in fact…
Jakob has said a few things that are true, but not smart to say: F.ex in 2022 that he was better than Wightman. Not smart because: It goes without saying because Jakob was better ranked than Jake in 2022. And also because it may be received as condescending right after Wightman’s WC win. So in my view that was an immaturity from Jakob’s side, and nothing severe at all (after all he started his sayings praising Jake). And when it comes to condescending: I think the brits (f.ex Cram) started the whole thing -long before Jakob’s sayings: He has got salt for not having good enough 800m speed, kick, and insight in racing strategy and own vulnerability. Quite condescending things, if you ask me… And I even think a lot of this is bs -something his contenders have made up out of jealousy. Because Jakob took too much of the show, and because one didn’t find anything else to throw at him…
I think your narrative of an extraordinary condescending Jakob is false. I think he in sum is totally OK.
And I think balanced outspokenness is a gift. And I like that Jakob has become better at that: He has been far too secretive in the past. F.ex the 2022 season -I thought he maybe was done for good (peaked) in the 1500m. Because he waited almost a year before he told about sickness and injuries in the pre season. And for me those things are far more important than an Olympic gold. -I’m here to watch his (exciting) ceiling; not some random gold… (But then I need information and explanations / excuses to believe in, and be interested in, his potential and future)…
They try to ask him if he’s going to adjust his preparation for Paris at all and he says that if he’s winning 18 out of 20 times then that’s a good success rate and he doesn’t need to change his approach. The interviewer (Mac Fleet) agreed with him at this point, though it seems Jakob is missing a key point: it’s consistently working in races where he has a rabbit the first 900 meters but has had a very low success rate in non-rabbited races, which is what Paris will be.
I would have expected him to recognize this so was surprising to hear his response and how he mentally groups the Diamond League and championship-style races into the same bucket.
Bumping this thread because it ended up being spot on
It aged well as it should. Hope those fanboys (I'm also one of them actually, but I know he isn't superman)would stop fantasizing his hero front-running a WR in a championship final without pacers.