NC State Woman’s XC rebuild

Lima wrote:

I’ve been on the campus many times. It’s widely regarded as on of the most unaesthetic campuses in D1. It’s also a classic tier 2 university with zero prestige. The running program is obviously elite. However, when an athlete is given a once in a lifetime opportunity to leverage their athleticism and the are also academically minded it seems like an odd choice. Running fades eventually and then you are left with a degree.

Lima wrote:

I’ve been on the campus many times. It’s widely regarded as on of the most unaesthetic campuses in D1. It’s also a classic tier 2 university with zero prestige. The running program is obviously elite. However, when an athlete is given a once in a lifetime opportunity to leverage their athleticism and the are also academically minded it seems like an odd choice. Running fades eventually and then you are left with a degree.

Lima wrote:

Actually agree with you. The program must be incredible because the university is not a selling point compared to competitors. The rankings and the way it looks aren’t subjective.

Lima wrote:

You raise a good point. Maybe some don’t have the grades. The fact that they get so many high level recruits at such a second tier school must be indicative of the program they have built there. UNC gets out recruited every year in women’s soccer by Stanford, so I can only imagine how hard it must be to develop such an elite program with NC State as your starting point.

Lima wrote:

I’ve been on the campus many times. It’s widely regarded as on of the most unaesthetic campuses in D1. It’s also a classic tier 2 university with zero prestige. The running program is obviously elite. However, when an athlete is given a once in a lifetime opportunity to leverage their athleticism and the are also academically minded it seems like an odd choice. Running fades eventually and then you are left with a degree.

Lima wrote:

Agree that rankings are silly and that you can get a great education from multiple schools. That said, that is the works we live in and a degree from NC State impresses nobody, while a degree from Stanford or Notre Dame may get you pulled out of the pile. And of course aesthetics matter. NC State is truly at the bottom of the list in that regard. Imagine how strong the recruiting would be if the same program moved to a better school? I guess the same could be said of NAU. At the end of the day it is obviously a great running program despite facing major barriers from the start.

Tuffy wrote:

Ayacucho wrote:

Real question. Why do top recruits pick NC State? While the program is strong and the coaching top tier, it is still NC State and the university you attend attaches for life. The campus is one of the least aesthetic campuses anywhere. With so many higher academic options out there, that also have top tier coaching, it’s hard to figure out how it is chosen over Notre Dame, Stanford, UNC, UVA etc.

Doesn’t sound like you’ve actually been on the campus. It is a beautiful campus. The engineering school is top notch and Coach Henes promotes a familial atmosphere that any recruit would want to be a part of. Very rarely do you see of the women’s team transfer out.

Getting around wrote:

Starliper and Walters (both HS class of 2020) transferred out

rbtrackfan wrote:

One would think that a team including 2 top 10 returners, a 50th place returner, a 9:29 steeplechaser, a 15:43 5000, a sub 9:00 3000 and a 4:15 1500 runner might be a title favorite but if OR returns everyone they can, I'd say that is not the case.

MattHatter wrote:

Lima wrote:

I’ve been on the campus many times. It’s widely regarded as on of the most unaesthetic campuses in D1. It’s also a classic tier 2 university with zero prestige. The running program is obviously elite. However, when an athlete is given a once in a lifetime opportunity to leverage their athleticism and the are also academically minded it seems like an odd choice. Running fades eventually and then you are left with a degree.

I doubt any athlete cares about the aesthetics of a campus when deciding whether or not to attend. it's all about the coaching and team culture. and while Ive never been on the NC State campus I have been to Raleigh and its a really cool place. i could totally see someone wanting to spend 4 years there.

Lima wrote:

I’ve been on the campus many times. It’s widely regarded as on of the most unaesthetic campuses in D1. It’s also a classic tier 2 university with zero prestige. The running program is obviously elite. However, when an athlete is given a once in a lifetime opportunity to leverage their athleticism and the are also academically minded it seems like an odd choice. Running fades eventually and then you are left with a degree.

runnerexpert wrote:

Lima wrote:

I’ve been on the campus many times. It’s widely regarded as on of the most unaesthetic campuses in D1. It’s also a classic tier 2 university with zero prestige. The running program is obviously elite. However, when an athlete is given a once in a lifetime opportunity to leverage their athleticism and the are also academically minded it seems like an odd choice. Running fades eventually and then you are left with a degree.

Its incredible the amount of quality runners that dont use their athletic ability to get into better schools, some of its because they cant qualify but not everyon needs to go the top at the Ivy League. If Im looking at say Oklahoma State, Im trying to get to MICH-WISC or UNC, etc.

byu wrote:

runnerexpert wrote:

Its incredible the amount of quality runners that dont use their athletic ability to get into better schools, some of its because they cant qualify but not everyon needs to go the top at the Ivy League. If Im looking at say Oklahoma State, Im trying to get to MICH-WISC or UNC, etc.

I don’t remember what the reasoning was for T. Roe, but after getting to altitude as a pro, she’s now on fire.

byu wrote:

rbtrackfan wrote:

One would think that a team including 2 top 10 returners, a 50th place returner, a 9:29 steeplechaser, a 15:43 5000, a sub 9:00 3000 and a 4:15 1500 runner might be a title favorite but if OR returns everyone they can, I'd say that is not the case.

And consider the possibility BYU is slated to get a freshman that might make the podium at Natty’s.