We like to have 1 thread per topic so we merged two threads together and kept the title of this thread. The other thread was entitled, "Assefa performance."
Tangential question here: now that women can bust out 2:11 for a marathon, are we still supposed to accept that women are too fragile to play best-of-5 matches in Tennis majors?
Of course women tennis players can handle it. But do tennis fans really want to watch a 2 week tournament of women playing 7 rounds of best 3 out of 5 matches? Probably not.
1) Praise the best T&F WR of all time? 2) Revise the point system to account for.... new shoes? 3) Ask questions?
Take a look at that one more time. Can anyone here seriously think she would beat Faith in a 1500 and set a world record or beat Target in the 5k and set a new world record?
No, no, and no. But since no women have actually run these times, these correlations are not as reliable as for slower times for which a lot of statistical data do exist. New records (incl Assefa's if ratified) and other new data will be used to update the tables. Then there wont be as much discordance I think.
Why do you people care enough to follow this sport when you believe every huge new achievement is because of drugs?
I just follow for the competition, but I hate it when someone blows away the WR and the field like this. It would have been more palatable if 2-3 women last through the final 5k with her.
lmao was going to post this as I was looking at her world athletics page, where did this come from
Her date of birth on World Athletics is 2 years 9 months later than the one listed on her Wikipedia page. She's either 26 with a December birthdate or 29 with a March birthdate.
wikipedia can be edited by anyone at anytime and in most cases no login required. i would go with what the world athletics website has listed
Tangential question here: now that women can bust out 2:11 for a marathon, are we still supposed to accept that women are too fragile to play best-of-5 matches in Tennis majors?
Of course women tennis players can handle it. But do tennis fans really want to watch a 2 week tournament of women playing 7 rounds of best 3 out of 5 matches? Probably not.
Correct... and most of the time in men's matches it's clear who is dominating, so best of 3 would be better for them most of the time.
1) In 1960, the womens WR was 3:30 while the men’s WR was 2:15. Things change.
2) It appears you’ve set the absolute limit for women at something a man did (while barefoot) 60 years ago. That’s weird.
3) Speaking of “novices”, it also appears Bikila broke the world record in his 3rd marathon. Thoughts?
Bikila wasn't barefoot at Tokyo '64. He was a highly-trained and experienced athlete who beat the best endurance-trained 100mpw athletes on the planet by a huge margin of 3 minutes. He was - and remains - a legend of the sport; he wasn't just "some guy".
Despite you blithely saying "things change", they don't change so much that women become faster than the best men in this sport. Only doping can achieve that.
Bikila in Tokyo 64 was running in humid polluted heat of Japan. Still, it's crazy that a woman is now faster than him but they're all on drugs at the top.
The men's world record in '64 for the mile was 3:54. 1:44 for the 800. The women's marathon record is now faster than the men's marathon record of that era. That is a massive and exponential increase in female endurance. It can only be achieved by drugs - training and shoes alone won't do it.
Would like to hear more about this exponential increase from the the man who always gets big problems when counting above two.
Did you guys read the LRC article? Gault says: "Unless Assefa is using some new superdrug, it’s hard to explain a run like this with PEDs alone. We’re not aware of any drug that can make you more than two minutes faster than anyone else in history."
Lol, is this an attempt to prove that she’s not on drugs? All this quote does, is establish that she must be on drugs at a minimum to achieve what we saw today. The question it unintentionally raises, is in addition to the drugs, what explains her success above and beyond other PED users?
I guarantee if she were some white girl, especially an American, you'd be saying a different story. Y'all are just butt hurt pathetic slow runners who can't fathom the fact that people of color are naturally gifted with athleticism. If you spent less time on here whining about everything and more time training you might run a little faster. Do you think Jakob is clean? He's the most obvious doper.
Wow, someone on twitter said her last 2k is only 4 seconds slower than Kipchoge's last 2k.
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From 40km to finish took in the 6 minutes 40 second range which is DARN good for a sub 2:10 man but mind boggling for a woman (and closing out a sub 2:12 WR)
Some sites have her running 800m 1:59.25 at age 17 which is extraordinary. She is the FIRST woman to run 800m in sub 2 minutes and the marathon in sub 2:20. Siffan Hassan was the second female to complete the feat.
Tigst displayed immense talent years ago but in 2022 she took it to unimaginable levels.
But this marathon have left me speechless.
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