Visa Olympics commercial compares being Black to suffering through CHEMOTHERAPY

heyyyyyy! the beagle. good to hear from you again.

1. i'm glad you followed my advice to consult a dictionary before using words you don't understand

2. i' glad you followed my advice not to re-post an entire paragraph when you only refer to a tiny part of it

3. i'm glad you're not a denier like lilly hammer about the term accident. although you USED to be. congrats bro, on your eyes being opened. and you're welcome

4. congrats on being more clear on your posts. i'm sure it's tough when you're not adept at the english language.

5. plenty of posted links already given to you for you to verify that picture were NOT posted until well after the fact. And well after the fact IS "a day or two". to prove this point, when the violence came from the right, as in the capitol riot, how long did it take for the media to disseminate pictures? a few minutes? a few seconds? and why was that? cuz the rioters were white? cuz it was violence coming from the right? and they could use the to further their agenda?

plenty of research out there showing the suppression of corresponding violence from the left. do your own research dude.

i'm not gonna have another lilly hammer who, even AFTER being hand fed the links, STILL denies my very true and accurate points.

might i suggest that instead of continuing to troll with "what about this.......what about THIS", instead spend your time looking into the links and info already provided to you. cuz you're coming across as yet ANOTHER denier who only WANTS to see thing in a neat, tidy, little liberal package that the media is spoon feeding you

the beagle wrote:

jimhhhh wrote:

and (point two) NO PICTURE was shown of the murderer.

Friendly reminder of the false statement.

Note that "well after the fact" is not a part of this claim, and then laugh at the argument after backpedaling that within 24 hours is WELL AFTER THE FACT.

For those of you wondering if the mainstream media’s usage of the term “traffic accident” to describe the massacre of white lives at the hands of a black guy who ADMITTED and posted about “killing white people, as many as you can” was a mistake, rather than deliberate, I urge you to ask yourself which is MORE probable

1. that MULTIPLE news outlets, whose only job is to cover the news, made the same simple mistake multiple times

or

2. the incident was outside the narrative the media is trying to portray. (Which is that racism is pervasive, REVERSE racism doesn’t exist, cops murder black people, and black on white violence doesn’t exist). Since it outside of the narrative (what the media WANTS you to believe) the media decides to either suppress it, or ”spin it” into something it is not. In this case, “a tragic accident”. This particular story was too big to suppress with all the news outlets covering it. So it was SPUN instead. Why? Because people walking through the airport, and seeing “tragic accident at parade in Wisconsin”, but can’t hear the words being said, will glance over, see the banner, and frame it in THEIR MIND that it WAS an accident. And if people on the plane (or later at work, or in their social lives) say “did you hear about what happened in Wisconsin?” it is ALREADY FRAMED IN THE MINDS OF MANY that it WAS an accident. And people who say “it was a black guy who was hell-bent on killing as many white people as possible” will be framed as “kooks” or “right wing extremists” (“it was a TRAFFIC ACCIDENT afterall – I heard it on the news!”)

so I ask you, which is more likely? A simple mistake made by multiple news outlets multiple times, or an attempt to spin a horrible story into something more palatable, and more in line with the media narrative described above. Think for yourself, There are no wrong answers. Just what you BELIEVE.

But a followup question for those who think it was a “mistake”. Is it just a coincidence that the MOST left leaning news outlets are the ones who were calling it a “car accident”?

And then you’ve got the hard core liberal sympathizers (like Lilly Hammer on this board) who STILL insist that the media never even REPORTED it as a car accident. And if those deniers are loud enough, they can frame even MORE truth tellers as “right wing kooks”. I can assure you, it WAS characterized as a "tragic accident". But i urge you to do your own research, so you believe it for yourself.

One final point – the guy ADMITTED to doing it specifically to white people. There is no gray in that admission. He admitted his intent was to kill as many white folks as he could. And yet the media says “tragic accident on the streets of Wisconsin”??? Come on.

A reminder. I am neither liberal or conservative. just a purveyor of truth. and if your response to me (rather than answering the question) is to instead "ridicule" me for using the word purveyor wrong, then i urge you to consult a dictionary. And i urge you to stop trying to hide the truth, or change the subject.

Lilly hammer - where did you go bud? nothing but crickets from the denier, i see.

did you finally bother to check out those links i sent? are you hiding now? terrified by the violence perpetrated from the left? the violence you were shielded from learning about by the 'woke media who only reports on what they WANT you to know"?

things like "being african american and having white teammates" is akin to losing a limb. and having cancer. and "see we all have struggles and being black is considered a handicap"

THATS the narrative that ties it all together. and ties this thread and the visa commercial

This is Clown World. In Clown World, that makes total sense.

i just wanted to point out - still NOTHING from Lilly Hammer. Remember her? the one who said that the media NEVER reported the Christmas Parade Massacre as "an accident".

Oh where oh where could my baby be? She was taken away from me.

cat's got her tongue. or maybe she finally wised up to the truth. that the media is driving this narrative. which is WHY people are so offended by this commercial. just MORE whining about the plight of black folks. And how their Olympic worthy lives are just like the struggles of amputees, and cancer survivors.

and then they wonder why we're so sick of it, when we are hit over the head with it, day and night.

want to watch the olympics - sure. but first here's a lesson on the plight of black people.

want to order dinner at a restaurant? sure. but first here's a lesson on why white people suck and black people are the best

want to go for a walk outside to recharge your batteries? Sure. Do you see the billboard telling you about white privilege and systemic racism?

want to go for a drive? sure. and why don't you listen to "advertisements" about how reverse racism doesn't exist the entire time you're driving

want to watch a crime show? sure. hope you enjoy watching white guys be the bad guys cuz its virtually illegal to have a bad guy who is black on Law and Order nowadays.

want to watch a commercial? sure. it's also seemingly illegal not to have a black guy (or ALL black guys) sell you that product, what ever product that is.

oh why oh why don't white people just listen? why are they sick of the rhetoric? i just don't know (eyeroll)

At best this is an insult - comparing cancer survivors and amputees to being BLACK??

WTF???

i hear she lost her race. came in dead last. i wonder why she didn't ask for a head start because of her "disability".

She had to race against "people who didn't look like her". The olympics are racist. (eyeroll)

I chose to live in a foreign country where I happened to be the minority by a longshot. I never realized until now how I brave and tenacious I was to live my life alongside others who have different skin colors.

I was shocked by this commercial. Not only is it ludicrous to compare being black in America to being a cancer survivor or an amputee, it's deceptive. Anyone who bothered to watch the U.S. qualifiers for speed skating would know Erin Jackson was not the only black skater out there and she didn't qualify. One of her white teammates, who qualified for 2 events, gave up her spot in one event so Jackson could go to the Olympics.

jimhhhh wrote:

if you bothered to look any OTHER than liberal left wing sites (cnn!?!?!? lol) you'd see lots of this stuff,

plenty about the pic not being publicized too, just spend some time broadening your horizons and looking OBJECTIVELY

hey jimhhhh, CNN leans left. They absolutely report with bias. MSNBC too. But, they don't typically post false information. Jaded, sensationalized yes. Blatantly wrong, no. There isn't a single right-leaning media outlet that doesn't report blatantly incorrect facts.

There are no such things as alternative facts. You've spent a significant amount of time trying to prove that alternative facts do exist. Unfortunately for you, they don't.

redderthedeader wrote:

jimhhhh wrote:

if you bothered to look any OTHER than liberal left wing sites (cnn!?!?!? lol) you'd see lots of this stuff,

plenty about the pic not being publicized too, just spend some time broadening your horizons and looking OBJECTIVELY

hey jimhhhh, CNN leans left. They absolutely report with bias. MSNBC too. But, they don't typically post false information. Jaded, sensationalized yes. Blatantly wrong, no. There isn't a single right-leaning media outlet that doesn't report blatantly incorrect facts.

There are no such things as alternative facts. You've spent a significant amount of time trying to prove that alternative facts do exist. Unfortunately for you, they don't.

You are so indoctrinated it's hilarious.

The entire Steel dossier was literally false information and CNN and MSNBC covered is 20 hours a day for YEARS even after it was proven to be completely false.

There's countless examples like this.

Being a diseased leftist you seem to think any fact which doesn't line up with your ignorant opinions is "incorrect"... lol...

hey reddethendedder -

what alternative facts did i post? oh wait, i didn't JUST post them. allow me to use YOU'RE crass words -

what alternative facts did i spend a significant mount of time trying to prove?

Here's the gist of what i said - the massacre of white people at the hands of a black person who posted on line that he was going to kill as many white guys as he could, and then he went out and did it, was reported by left leaning sights as a tragic accident. Not only one time either. Or by only one network.

so, you see my conundrum. I've been accused of "spending a significant mount of time trying to prove alternative facts", and yet i don't see my alterative facts.

Did the media report it as a traffic accident, or didn't they. And as FORMER DENIER LILLY HAMMER learned yesterday before running off with her tail between her legs, because her eyes were opened, there are lots of links showing that they did.

I think your post actually proves my point. So thank you for YOUR post. Reread MY post and pay particular attention to my contention (and a CONTENTION IS JUST THAT - A CONTENTION, I ALSO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO THINK FOR THEMSELVES AND NOT JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, WHICH IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE) , which was this - that the media framing that story as an accident in SOME people's minds (aka - YOURS) , leads them (aka YOU) to call truth purveyors (aka ME) "kooks, right wing extremeists, or racists" when those truth tellers contend that this WAS NOT a traffic accident. it was black on white murder. Again, and this is important, so i'll put it in bold - BLACK ON WHITE MURDER IS NOT AN OPINION. IT IS A FACT. THE MURDERER POSTED THAT HIS INTENTIONS WERE TO KILL AS MANY WHITE PEOPLE AS HE COULD, AND THEN HE WENT OUT AND DID IT."

Oh, and nice try with YOUR "alternative fact" which you tried to slip past us - , if i may paraphrase YOUR contention (aka ALTERNATIVE FACT) "ALL right wing media reports outright lies, and left leaning media NEVER do" .

I say "nice try" for two reasons. First, that comment by you SCREAMS that you are a liberal. As that is precisely one of the narratives out there - that news from the right is false, and news from the left is good and right, and just. That's a LITERAL narrative coming from the left.

Reason two is that if you bothered to read MY posts (as i read yours), you'd see that I'M not a liberal or a conservative. I'm firmly in the middle. I'm a purveyor of truth. I look at both sides. I investigate. I think for MYSELF. I don't let the media TELL ME how to think, and in THIS case, it's appalling to term this murder as an accident, just because it doesn't fit the left wing narrative of "reverse racism doesn't exist"

so again, i ask you, what alternative facts did i post?

i fully expect you to run away, tail between your legs, like Lilly Hammer, who yesterday ALSO tried to tear me down, and claim that the media NEVER EVEN REPORTED IT AS AN ACCIDENT. She was educated by me yesterday with links to proof. She ran off. But i'd love to hear from YOU.

Facts only please. No "you used the word purveyor wrong or you don't know the meaning of conundrum (which i also used here) so you have no credibility (even though those words were used correctly) " sideshows. Just answer what fact was alternative?

Or am i to assume the typical liberal response - "all things that go against our narrative is fake news and alternative facts?

And i genuinely thank you for reading my post in its entirety, and then commenting on it. I try to post well written, well reasoned, thought provoking posts. And it apparent that i did. So thank you.

Just to be clear, I asked you to provide proof of what you claimed, which you still haven't done. While I posted proof of the opposite.

And your delusional initial claim that the attacker's photo was never published was quickly shown to be false. Even your backtrack of "it wasn't published until WELL AFTER THE FACT" was exposed as a lie, as it was published in an article the morning after the incident. I'm not bothering with your posts anymore because if I wanted to read fiction, I would read good fiction. Not your crazy diatribes.

Somebody registered The Lily Hammer, so I won't be using that name anymore. It doesn't matter, because I'm done with this thread. Have a good day.

hey lilly hammer -

show me where i said "the picture was never shown" other than in a cropped RESPONSE to my post by some other deluded soul?

i've always said the picture was not released til well after the incident. because that is a verifiable fact in the links i provided yesterday (the ones that made you run away in shame - remember?)

but good try, yet again. and i'm proud of you showing your face again after yesterday's evisceration.

let me guess your response - LillyHammer: "Evisceration isn't a real word. i never heard of it. so you have no credibility"

oh, lilly lilly lilly. what am i gonna do with you. sooooooooo deceitful. Shall i crop YOUR posts too? to make it appear you say things you didn't? Nah. i'm honest. plus it's too easy to eviscerate you using YOUR OWN WORDS. i don't have to crop things together. No need to delete parts that change meanings.

Here's and example of YOUR example --

Original Poster: "i don't think the sun will rise tomorrow until after i leave for work at 6am, so i'll be dark out when i leave"

the beaagle: that idiot LITERALLY just said "i don't think the sun will rise tomorrow" what an idiot. anyone who doesn't think the sun will rise tomorrow is off his rocker. I copied/pasted his quote showing what he said about the sun not coming up. Here it is. (no mention of cropping it off, of course)

do you see the problem with your contention/accusation now, dummy? Oh, that's right. "you left". Just like yesterday. :)

redderthedeader wrote:

jimhhhh wrote:

if you bothered to look any OTHER than liberal left wing sites (cnn!?!?!? lol) you'd see lots of this stuff,

plenty about the pic not being publicized too, just spend some time broadening your horizons and looking OBJECTIVELY

hey jimhhhh, CNN leans left. They absolutely report with bias. MSNBC too. But, they don't typically post false information. Jaded, sensationalized yes. Blatantly wrong, no. There isn't a single right-leaning media outlet that doesn't report blatantly incorrect facts.

There are no such things as alternative facts. You've spent a significant amount of time trying to prove that alternative facts do exist. Unfortunately for you, they don't.

Lol....The biggest story of the decade was that Trump colluded with Russia to win the election and it was PROMOTED by NYT,,,CNN,,,MSNBC....ABC...NBC...CBS....yada, yada...you are blinded by your zealotry..

Totally disgusting; it made me sick.

I’m canceling my Visa card.

Can you imagine an Irish American going to any NBA game and making a statement like that in public or on the air?

They’d never make it to the parking lot let alone get paid for the statement.