saii8wbg wrote:
There really is a simple 2 part solution:
1. DON'T TAKE ANYTHING EVEN QUESTIONABLE LET ALONE BANNED.
2. Be where you say you'll be when you say you'll be there.
That's literally it. I have no patience for anyone trying to get past the system with whereabout failures.
If you’re avoiding a test for two weeks because you’re in your doping cycle then you ARE NOT going to be where you say you are. Athletes who aren’t doping have no problem getting tested.
priv wrote:
Star wrote:
But if he gave his home as his location for a given day and he was out Christmas shopping during Christmas time, I'm going to give him some slack.
The pressure to have every hour accounted for in your life is a bit intrusive.
No. Just no.
It's not hard. For one hour per day, you need to be where you say you'll be. No excuses.
It's a reasonable sacrifice to make to ensure that your record, your achievements, your sponsorship and your reputation are where they need to be if you're a world champion.
In my job I accept the regulator's rules and I accept the consequences if I break them. This is is no different.
He'll be forever tarnished, just like "doorbell" Mo. Going shopping instead suggests either that he was still glowing or that he has a habitual and flagrant disregard for the anti-doping rules and anti-doping system.
Just wait until this guy wants us to come over and change out his cable box. We operate in four hour windows, dude is gonna lose his mind at the audacity of the imposition.
hobbyjogger47 wrote:
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shot fired! probably aimed at Sandi Morris ??
Or at letsrun?
We had the same discussion a few weeks ago, when three others were almost on the same day provisionally banned for three missed tests, one Kenyan and two Americans ...
Star wrote:
KraftMacAndCheese wrote:
You are bad at making arguments.
You only say that because you agree with the other point of view.
This person was comparing an 40 hour a week wage worker schedule to that of a professional athlete that spends the majority of the working time training for a relatively few amount of performances.
Then has to make personal time available to random testers.
The two jobs are not comparable.
The NFL would be a better comparison.
They also have off season random testing and have to provide a schedule of where they can be reached.
They get a notice 24 hours in advance of a test and need to show up or have it count as a missed test.
I think not showing up after getting a 24 hour notice is worse than not being at your house every day at a certain hour in case a tester happens to pop in.
If Coleman was told the day before be at this place at this time and wasn't, that would be much harder to forgive.
Why aren't the two jobs comparable? Why do you view the testing hour as "personal time" as opposed to job obligation time? Perhaps Coleman has this view and that explains part of his problem.
americans out in full force to support the doping of their athletes. really funny. but understandable coming from the most racist and despicable nations in the world.
be a superstar sprinter
make millions as long as you dont test positive or miss too many drug tests
miss too many tests anyway
get banned
find loophole, get off scott-free
plus no one finds out
but someone in the know is really pissed
they go and leak hints to letsrun and then the full story to the press
daddy stands up for you by calling letsrun founder an idiot
you say people screwed up and it's their fault but you'll change
then go right back to missing tests
you say people screwed up and it's their fault
...????
I'm curious to see what happens next in the saga. Regardless, I'm scoring this round 10-8 for Rojo over Papa Coleman.
Gabby Thomas is now on twitter claiming that any white person talking about coleman's missed tests is racist....
isn't she suspended rt now for missing tests? lol
jhlkjhlkjhjlkhkl wrote:
Gabby Thomas is now on twitter claiming that any white person talking about coleman's missed tests is racist....
isn't she suspended rt now for missing tests? lol
Kenya is bad in the recent years for doping in distance events. No denying.
Russia forced it's athletes into a state sponsored doping programme. The trust in Russian athletes is gone.
But let's not forget the Grand ol' USA has consistently produced doping athletes year after year after year. And there was BALCO. And to a lesser extent the NOP.
The worst part is that many of USA's best return from their bans or make up excuses and continue to compete today. Whereas the Kenyans disappear and the Russians have been banned forever.
Well known American athletes still competing today caught up in doping issues (that I could think of):
Marquis Goodwin
Jarion Lawson
Will Claye
Tyson Gay
Justin Gatlin
Christian Coleman
Mike Rodgers
Gil Roberts
Brianna Rollins
Ajee Wilson
Dawn Harper-Nelson
Gwen Berry
Ban Coleman.
Imagine the shock at seeing another nike athlete who is a doping cheater.
Don’t be an a-hole. This is what I wrote:
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Most likely a bunch of 1-off low 9.9x guys with good wind have been the fastest ever, guys like Smith and CL.
Smith got lucky with altitude, CL got lucky with perfect wind. Etc.
And yes a white guy could be the fastest ever clean, in a black sport. Just like a black girl can be the best-ever gymnast in a white sport. Turns things on their head, but we should be used to that by now.
Of all people to pull this card right now.
Yikes, she's completely unhinged.
The question of if any "white athletes have had whereabouts failures" is not relevant to the discussion. This is because whereabouts failures happens on an individual, not a unproven conspiracy of whereabouts failures being targeted more towards blacks.
The race card in this case is very valid phrase to use, given that Coleman in the past, when he missed 3 tests in a little over a years time frame stated that it was due to him being a black man.
Now he's missed another test and people are calling his behavior out, race card, irresponsible , etc out.
LOL, here we go again with black people gas lighting and using logical fallacies in an argument.
Pat Bateman wrote:
https://twitter.com/itsgabriellet/status/1273717252660113408?s=21Of all people to pull this card right now.
Dopers gonna Dope.
khorrps wrote:
yeah, but he still gets more tests done on him than almost every other athlete in the world so being careless can possibly be an excuse
Some of this data is actually published. Rupp and Gatlin both get many more tests than Coleman in a calendar year. Coleman isn't being picked on. Neither of those guys miss any tests. When Gatlin was caught dirty, he submitted to that drug test. That sure makes Coleman look dirty in comparison.
spade detector wrote:
Star wrote:
You only say that because you agree with the other point of view.
This person was comparing an 40 hour a week wage worker schedule to that of a professional athlete that spends the majority of the working time training for a relatively few amount of performances.
Then has to make personal time available to random testers.
The two jobs are not comparable.
The NFL would be a better comparison.
They also have off season random testing and have to provide a schedule of where they can be reached.
They get a notice 24 hours in advance of a test and need to show up or have it count as a missed test.
I think not showing up after getting a 24 hour notice is worse than not being at your house every day at a certain hour in case a tester happens to pop in.
If Coleman was told the day before be at this place at this time and wasn't, that would be much harder to forgive.
Why aren't the two jobs comparable? Why do you view the testing hour as "personal time" as opposed to job obligation time? Perhaps Coleman has this view and that explains part of his problem.
He's right, the two jobs arent the same.
But that isn't the point! The whereabouts system is designed to be as easy as possible.
- The athlete picks the default time and place, to make it convenient for the athlete (most choose 5am at home)
- the athlete can choose to change their time and place as many days as they want. There is literally an app to change it! It's super easy! Need to go shopping this week (really early in the morning....)? No problem, just change that day in your app!
If Coleman claims he was tested 30 times last year, he ran almost 20 races. So that leaves only 10 random tests. So he misses 4 out of 10???
Meanwhile rupp was tested almost random tests and missed zero! Gatlin as well!
Maybe he should have waited to get the Olympic rings tattooed on his arm.
Rio wasn't much of a showing for him. And now he (and everybody) may miss Tokyo.
Pat Bateman wrote:
https://twitter.com/itsgabriellet/status/1273717252660113408?s=21Of all people to pull this card right now.
Is her statement factually untrue?