Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

So much winning

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

Herp derp, FAKE NEWS, herp derp, MAGA!!!! BUTTHURT....decimated....

Devastated!

This thread is laughable. I read it every day to get a chuckle. DFF is the JAKIR of 2017. Great parody.

think twice wrote:

This thread is laughable. I read it every day to get a chuckle. DFF is the JAKIR of 2017. Great parody.

That is an insult to JAKIR.

JAKIR was a great troller.

He used pretty decent logic to make illogical conclusions.

And he really pushed people's buttons pretending he really supported Makhloufi.

But he was clever about it, not using childish insults like DFF.

They may have one thing in common - they may both actually not like the person they are pretending to defend just to make those supporters look stupid.

DFF certainly makes Trump supporters look stupid.

DiscoGary is a much better troller when it comes to pushing buttons and using good logic to get illogical conclusions.

But I'm sure DG actually likes Trump where JAKIR did not truly believe in Makhloufi.

think twice wrote:

This thread is laughable. I read it every day to get a chuckle. DFF is the JAKIR of 2017. Great parody.

DFF posts are an amazing put down of the iconic Trump supporter through parody. I wasn't sure at first but then I saw the humour in it.

He has it down cold. The repetition of the same ideas, the anger, the constant going back to the election like it's the only thing happening in his life it's allclassic

The trump supporters must hate him.

Well played DFF

L L wrote:

think twice wrote:

This thread is laughable. I read it every day to get a chuckle. DFF is the JAKIR of 2017. Great parody.

That is an insult to JAKIR.

JAKIR was a great troller.

He used pretty decent logic to make illogical conclusions.

And he really pushed people's buttons pretending he really supported Makhloufi.

But he was clever about it, not using childish insults like DFF.

They may have one thing in common - they may both actually not like the person they are pretending to defend just to make those supporters look stupid.

DFF certainly makes Trump supporters look stupid.

DiscoGary is a much better troller when it comes to pushing buttons and using good logic to get illogical conclusions.

But I'm sure DG actually likes Trump where JAKIR did not truly believe in Makhloufi.

I disagree. If DFF was clever it would not be a true parody of the trump supporter. He needs to be simple minded and use childish thinking to make the parody work.

anyone want to take a poll on whether they think trumpcare will pass the House on Thursday?

I'm starting to think it will pass, which would be a victory for trump. Hard to tell what is going on, but it sounds like Ryan is passing out money to try to grease the skids. The conservatives still don't like it because it helps poor people, but I suspect they will be offered something at the last minute - some sort of tax cut for rich people probably, and the bill will make it through the House.

I'm thinking that in a full court press the GOP will hang together.

the negative is that the bill is very unpopular (something like 35% approval out there) and could lash Republicans to Trump...which will not help in the midterms. People generally like Obamacare now - yanking that out from under them for more expensive care probably won't appeal to the middle class GOPers.

I think the balance tilts toward passage tho.

the senate is another matter - much harder to muscle around senators.

Not sure I understand your supposed stereotype here.

Trump won white college grads 50-45%. He lost college grads overall 50-45%. Are you saying that whites are simple-minded and childish?

He won white women with 53% of that vote. Are you saying white women are simple minded and childish?

He also won every income group over $50K. Hillary won the groups under $50K. Are you saying people that make more money are simple minded and childish?

He won the suburban vote 50-45%, which makes up about 50% of the population. Are you saying the suburb folks are simple minded and childish?

And by winning much higher percentages of both black males (13%), and Hispanics (30%) than predicted by the media, are you saying that these groups are beginning to veer toward being more simple minded and childish?

It's pretty much moot if the House healthcare bill passes.

We know it won't break the filibuster in the senate and cannot be implemented through reconciliation.

It's not victory for Trump if it doesn't become law.

On the other hand, it would be a huge loss for Trump if the bill he supports doesn't get a Republican majority.

He is in a no win situation on healthcare.

It'll definitely pass the House. No question. It'll be modified in the Senate during reconciliation and then signed by Trump thereafter.

It will hurt many Trump supporters in real life but those are the Trump supporters who--ironically--are the most rabid and immune to logic & reason. This whole healthcare deal will not hurt the GOP or Trump in the long run. Whatever ill effects happen as a result will be blamed on some scapegoat (immigrants, "other" poor people (i.e. Not poor Trump supporters who won't even acknowledge they are poor), insurance companies, hospitals, drug companies, doctors, etc.) which is an effective strategy for the GOP.

Unless Trump winds up getting impeached for something (which I think is not likely--maybe a 20% chance) he will win in 2020.

the thing is - healthcare is not like normal lawmaking. It is a different category. Most healthcare reform fails - it's extraordinarily hard to do, because it is peoples' lives at stake, and we all know how easily it is to bankrupt a family in a health emergency. Tax cuts or whatever are on the margin...healthcare is dead in the center of peoples' lives and they know it.

So I'm not so sure that if Trumpcare passes and it jacks up costs for middle class whites that they will stay on the trump train. Healthcare creates drama - it's the real thing.

L L wrote:

It's pretty much moot if the House healthcare bill passes.

We know it won't break the filibuster in the senate and cannot be implemented through reconciliation.

It's not victory for Trump if it doesn't become law.

On the other hand, it would be a huge loss for Trump if the bill he supports doesn't get a Republican majority.

He is in a no win situation on healthcare.

I pretty much agree with you, but if the bill passes the house it becomes more passable in the senate.

and if mcconnell is willing to keep throwing money at the problem, then senators could come around.

and the bottom line is that on a huge reform like this you don't always get a second chance, and the GOP knows it. If they want to get rid of the ACA this might be their only chance. So they may vote for Trumpcare, holding their nose, believing that no matter how bad it is, failing at repeaking O'care would be worse.

and by worse, I mean that they would be primaried from the right if O'care stays on the books. GOPers really hate being primaried from the right.

L L wrote:.

It's not victory for Trump if it doesn't become law.

On the other hand, it would be a huge loss for Trump if the bill he supports doesn't get a Republican majority.

I doubt very much it's "his" bill and more like another heritage foundation-like wet dream that has his name on it. It is the opposite of his very liberal campaign rhetoric about more health care for all.

Both houses have passed dreck before. I predict keeping the vote open for a long time to sweeten the deal enough to get the votes out of the House. Who knows what will happen in the Senate.

Health care repeal will pass the House. Toss up in Senate, depending on 3-5 swing votes (e.g., Murkowski, Gardner, Snow) and if revisions go through. If it passes Senate in any form resembling current plan then ANYTHING goes. Trump gets what he wants across the board.

Way too early to predict 2020. Let's survive 2017 and see if there is voter backlash in 2018.

No it is NOT otherwise known as a lie. It is an alternative fact!

So there!!!!!!!

L L wrote:

It's pretty much moot if the House healthcare bill passes.

We know it won't break the filibuster in the senate and cannot be implemented through reconciliation.

It's not victory for Trump if it doesn't become law.

On the other hand, it would be a huge loss for Trump if the bill he supports doesn't get a Republican majority.

He is in a no win situation on healthcare.

As I understand it, the bill does not need 60 votes to pass the senate. It only needs 50. They've been very careful to make sure it's a bill that CAN be implemented through reconciliation.

I'll give it a 75% chance to pass the House and a 50% chance to pass the senate.

It only takes 3 Republican senators to kill it. Rand Paul is very unlikely to vote yes. So that leaves just two senators who don't want to be associated with Trumpcare.

L L wrote:

It's pretty much moot if the House healthcare bill passes.

We know it won't break the filibuster in the senate and cannot be implemented through reconciliation.

It's not victory for Trump if it doesn't become law.

On the other hand, it would be a huge loss for Trump if the bill he supports doesn't get a Republican majority.

He is in a no win situation on healthcare.

Aint no such thing as a filibuster in the Senate. Stop living in the past.

Fat hurts wrote:

So that leaves just two senators who don't want to be associated with Trumpcare.

Murkowski and Collins.

such a strange world now. I'm hoping the conservative block in the House and Senate holds together. Never thought I'd want that to happen.