RE: Cheating at Marathons

comparing PMs numbers to legit wrote:

legit runner, her crew member Kevin Albert.

Yep, Kev seems legit, good on him.

So how about it Kev, come on here and tell us what you know.

every time one of these lame attempts to cast doubt on the mountain of evidence/eye witness accounts is posted it triggers 4 or 5 responses. way to keep the thread alive. c'mon Kostman - do the right thing here! take care of your race!

keep it going wrote:

every time one of these lame attempts to cast doubt on the mountain of evidence/eye witness accounts is posted

Steve?

Yes. Thomas saw her get into the van at mile 103 and drive into Lonepine and never return. In addition to never returning to the race car she also never ran by him or Darren from that point forward. How many times do we have to go through the same set of facts?

Now Eric comes on here and reports that PM drove down the course from mile 38 to mile 45. What more do you need?

My god Steve you have to be one of the dumbest individuals on this planet to keep this thread alive like you have.

Look like Melody and Dan are a couple

https://www.facebook.com/dan.mel.50?fref=ufi

Sorry but the time comparison did not involve times by Kevin Albert but the other gentleman on her crew by the name of Daniel Santos-Costa.

My bad.

Daniel Santos-Costa is the one that runs 3:30 marathons and 24 hour keys 100 race. The main point holds true however. A 6 to 7 hour marathoner cannot run a 25 hour 100 miler. There's absolutely no way in hell a 6 to 7 hour marathoner can run a 23 hour 100 miler either. :-). Daniel Santos-Costa has game. PM does not. They should not be running similar 100 miler times. Ever.

Kevin Albert is a slow runner that runs with PM at all her races. He has no game at all. He probably cheats all the time too.

Daniel Santos-Costa and his wife Melody likely have answers for us.

Daniel? Mel?

You won't find "Kevin Albert", aside from some race results (mostly her races).

That's an alias. That's not even his name.

Who knows why.

This made me laugh out loud.

And the Quad weekend (note the 50miler), she got quicker as it went on, amazing:

I Ran Marathons Good Friday 3/29/2013 6:45:00

I Ran Marathons Anniversary Quad Day 2 (50 Mile) 3/30/2013 9:55:00

I Ran Marathons Anniversary Quad Day 3 3/31/2013 4:45:00

I Ran Marathons Anniversary Quad Day 4 4/1/2013 4:31:00

9:55:00 50 miler huh?

PM (hint).....you can't just double your fastest ever marathon times and report it for a 50 mile race. It does not work that way in ultra-world

Stick with cheating at Frequent Marathoning!

Dan and Mel, you can skip church this week if you come clean on this thread.

the more I think about this I think we have it all wrong, there should not be a press investigation, she is a woman of the people, the masses, become a shooting star and beloved by those who know her, she reminds me of Evita and she should have her own musical -

Long running, adored, thick ankles, the instant queen,

a slow beautiful thing of all the talents, a cross between a

Fantasy of the bedroom and the track

You were just an Iranian back street girl

Hustling and fighting

Waddling and Jogging

Badwater finishing, adored, did you believe in your wildest moments

All this would be yours, that you'd become the lady of them all?

Were there stars in your eyes when you walked in at night

From the desert, from the peaks

From the back of van so comical?

Don't look down, it's a long, long way to fall

Badwater Finishing, adored, what happens now, where do you go from here?

For someone on top of the world, the view is not exactly clear

A shame you did it all at twenty-six.two

There are no mysteries now

Nothing can thrill you

No-one fulfill you

Badwater finish, adored, I hope you come to terms with boredom

So famous, so easily, finishing so soon, is not the wisest thing to be

You won't care if they love you, it's been done before

You'll despair if they hate you

You'll be drained of all energy

All the runners who've made it would agree

parEVA"

Badwater finishing, adored, that's good to hear, but unimportant

My story's quite usual, local girl makes good,

runs 200 miles every day

I was in the right place at the perfect time

Bridged a gap--I was lucky

But one thing I'll say for me

No-one else can run it like I can

Perhaps this would also be apropos, it is all so more poignant when set to music, and in her own voice, no need to even alter the words:

"You Must Love Me"

Where do we go from here?

This isn't where we intended to be

We had it all, you believed in me

I believed in you

Certainties disappear

What do we do for our dream to survive?

How do we keep all our passions alive,

As we used to do?

Deep in my heart I'm concealing

Things that I'm longing to say

Scared to confess what I'm feeling

Frightened you'll slip away

You must love me

You must love me

Why are you at my side?

How can I be any use to you now?

Give me a chance and I'll let you see how

Nothing has changed

You must love me

psst wrote:

You won't find "Kevin Albert", aside from some race results (mostly her races).

That's an alias. That's not even his name.

Who knows why.

You could be right, but not according to her FB site:

Mainly Marathons wrote:

Center of the Nation - Mainly Marathons

Day 1 (Sept.17): Baker, Montana

Day 2 (Sept.18): Bowman, North Dakota

Day 3 (Sept.19): Belle Fourche, South Dakota

Day 4 (Sept.20): Sundance, Wyoming

Day 5 (Sept.21): Chadron, Nebraska

These courses have very little oversight and no chip timing. Each loop the runner is asked to put in a colored rubberband to tally and track their loops. Sounds like a perfect PM venue.

I know a few runners doing this. PM is going to have eyes on her constantly. Look for an injury or other excuse why she is unable to walk five 7-hr marathons in consecutive days.

Media is also talking about showing up.

Also, note:

"Time limit: None. We have a “no runner left behind” policy, and we happily stay until the final finisher crosses the line. Walkers are always welcome!"

Here is the race directors contact info:

http://mainlymarathons.com/contact/

anyone know how she going so far?

haha - ghost runners - nothing new at her events

We are celebrating 2nd year anniversary of this event with ghosts and zombies for 3 days of Marathons

So, why did he make this up? If he has the proof, bring it forward. Listen, I was the primary one who brought Kip Litton to his knees by spearheading research into all his races. If there are other marathons or RDs with evidence, let's hear it so we can research it. Otherwise, STFU.

Diversionary wrote:

Hmmmmmmmm wrote:

Runners and RDs from which marathons?

It certainly won't be the iranmarathons, which are the majority of her recorded sham marathons.

He answered already with: "Should I have said "runners and RDs from a number of marathons and ultramarathons" instead? Because that's the feedback I've been getting."

Drop the diversionary tactics you're only embarrassing yourself.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

Listen, I was the primary one who brought Kip Litton to his knees by spearheading research into all his races.

So you're Kyle Strode? Well, hello Kyle. How's the weather out in Helena?

Hours of entertainment for someone bored at work tomorrow:

http://www.songfacts.com/category-songs_about_cheating.php

the results from her daily race aren't posted yet... but looking forward to seeing her get faster day after day!

You listen, are you a total friggin idiot, his statement is 'anecdotal' ("feedback I've been getting"), suggest you look up the meaning of anecdotal.

If you want "evidence" from "other marathons or RDs" go and find it yourself as you have "primary" experience at "spearheading research". Otherwise, STFU.

My contact reported that she came in around 6 hours on Day 1. My contact also indicated PM may want to consider investing in some bigger shorts. It was not a very flattering look apparently.

shorts comment: GOLDEN.