Whgdhedhed wrote:
The real question is where can I see this race? It's really a detriment to our sport that a quick replay isn't available and the full races aren't available anywhere online!
It's all on YouTube but it seems to be blocked in the USA.
Try a free VPN like TunnelBear - I'm in North Korea aka Canada.
Is calculo the new handle of ventolin?
ggfsgasdfs wrote:
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2017/08/watch-emma-coburn-courtney-frerichs-stun-world-go-1-2-womens-steeplecase-2017-world-track-field-champs-video/
Unfortunately the commentating was a bit lacking.
1) They totally missed one of the biggest stories of the race. Chepkoech, in addition to missing the 1st water jump, also fell. She ran heroically.
2) I know there is a tendency for commentators to be silent when something amazing happens but i thought the silence after this one didn't work.
3) Change your IP and listen to the BBC call here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/40906959I'm going to now change mine to listen to the IAAF feed.
Our 4,000 + word race recap is published here:
What did we just see?!!
Update: Our 4,000 + word race recap is published here:
xcvxcvxcvx wrote:more stringent testing make the drugs less effective because they stop usually a week for the races but might have to stop longer before champs
utter drivel
top gals woud be tested days in-out before major
what drugs are undetectable 1/52 out ???
what is worth more $$$ or prestige
win in WC or WR in zurich
they must have doubled down on the tesing this year! no DRUG CHEATS made it to finals
lol you Americans are such hypocrites, it's unbelievable. If two athletes from any other nation had set such huge PRs, you'd call doping.
btw, I'm not saying they are doped, I'm just disgusted by your hypocrisy. you can't have it both ways.
America is a free country and we can be hypocrites if we want to
The worst barrier-clearing technique of all belonged to Diro, the seventh-place Ethiopian. It was almost comically ridiculous. At one point, she went over with both legs together and landed three lanes further outside.
That was an amazing and entertaining race all the way through.
Weak Weekly wrote:
FULR wrote:You are not very bright. The women's steeple record will be 8:40 within 5 years. IAAF points are borderline meaningless to the intelligent.
Exactly. IAAF are based on what has already been done, not what the event should be done in.
....Is what your Mom said to your Dad when you were born.
Yes...
fgxbfgbfzf wrote:
Is calculo the new handle of ventolin?
I want to talk about this idea that the women's steeplechase times are weak.
Ratio of Emma Coburn/5000 meter world world is 1.061
Ratio of an 8 minute men's steeplechase/5000 meter world record is 1.055
The men this event ran 8:14 for the title but I am nice.
Pretty damn close. The ratio would have been identical if Emma had run 3 seconds faster.
So the argument that the women will soon be running 8:40 in the steeple and this time is bad, is based either on the women's 5000 meter time is crap (who believes that?) or that all steeplechasers are crap.
To which I say some of these 5000 meter men who always lose to Mo should change disciplines.
Frerichs is somewhat of an untapped talent. She's only 24 - started running late in high school and attended UMKC, which isn't exactly a middle distance factory. NCAA Steeplechase record holder with only 5-6 years of running in her. Not especially surprised times dropped as a pro. Sky is the limit for this one.
Astonishing. I could watch that race all night. I might do it.
Easily the event of the championships and savior of the championships. This will be the memory.
I have to say when the 6 broke clear I expected Coburn 4th and Frerichs 6th. Then little by little it started to dawn on me that it didn't have to happen that way. But I never allowed myself to project 2 medals, let alone first and second.
I can't remember a more remarkable finish in a distance race of this caliber. Just too darn bad it was world championships and not the Olympics, where it would he Wheaties automatic and all time legendary.
Full credit to Craig Masback for emphasizing early that Frerich's camp wanted her to trail Cobrun and thought she was ready to stay with her, despite a 12 second lagging personal best. I'm thinking...that's interesting. Might last half the race.
But that's why you challenge the front and don't sit back like a mediocrity. Let the Gregoreks of the world take that sorry route.
Frerichs made the key decision and move of the race. I didn't read the entire thread so I'm not sure if anyone highlighted it. Coburn seemed content to lag behind the Kenyans on the final backstretch and wait for the water jump. Frerichs said screw that, they are already vulnerable and this race is there for the taking. She pushed boldly toward the front from the outside and Coburn woke up and realized it was the correct choice. She wasn't going to allow another American to get the jump on her.
I didn't understand why Frerichs didn't try for the inside on the final water jump. That choice gave Coburn the edge. Then both Americans were flawless over the final water jump and last barrier. It was so incredible once it became clear cut that Frerichs would hold for silver.
And so fitting that hurdling technique played a key role for a change. That final water jump provided separation. I get sick of all the nursery rhyme techniques that the Kenyans and other Africans use over the barriers.
Okay...time to watch the replay again.
JohnR wrote:i want to talk about this idea that the women's steeplechase times are weak
they are
Ratio of Emma Coburn/5000 meter world world is 1.061
Ratio of an 8 minute men's steeplechase/5000 meter world record is 1.055
ok, but not bothering to check
The men this event ran 8:14 for the title but I am nice
ok, but not bothering to check
Pretty damn close
it doesn't work this way
The ratio would have been identical if Emma had run 3 seconds faster
you did realise men's winner jogged in, so that couda pushed it out to 5s ?!
So the argument that the women will soon be running 8:40 in the steeple and this time is bad, is based either on the women's 5000 meter time is crap (who believes that?)
ayana can run
~ 13'55- 14'00
if in rio shape in a zurich
or that all steeplechasers are crap
estimate i gave above indicates iaaf undershot women's barriers
they shoud be taller by
1"
To which I say some of these 5000 meter men who always lose to Mo should change disciplines
thank you
Great run........ But........the women's steeple is relatively new and for whatever reason has not pulled in near the talent the flat races have. It is not in the category of racewalking but I don't see anyone like Ayana in it....regardless, congrats.
Awsi Dooger wrote:I get sick of all the nursery rhyme techniques that the Kenyans and other Africans use over the barriers
seeing as it has happened for 45y+, i assume you are butt-end recipient of a woeful radical gastrectomy ?
neither african nor american wrote:
lol you Americans are such hypocrites, it's unbelievable. If two athletes from any other nation had set such huge PRs, you'd call doping.
btw, I'm not saying they are doped, I'm just disgusted by your hypocrisy. you can't have it both ways.
These two are definitely doped up. Not only did they just run some big PB's (with one nearly running a flat 3k PB) they beat of bunch of dopers in the process. But ya know, everyone but us Americans dope so there's that. If these were two Kenyans or Ethiopians that ran PB's in those increments to win, the pitchforks would most certainly be out right now.