Obama Issues Decree Ending Sex Segregated Sports in All Schools

DiscoGary wrote:

STSBO wrote:

I certainly got that part. Wanna bet, oh let's say $1 million, that Title IX will do away with women's sports entirely? Or would you just be happier to come out and admit that you are a liar?

Can a 30 year old man BE a 16 year old girl? I'll bet $1 million that he can not. The Federal government says every school district taking Federal funds HAS to take that bet.

How many fingers am I holding up?

Translation: "Yes, I (DiscoGary) am a liar."

Obama's decree needs to be revised. Too many loopholes that will lead to abuse.

MakesSense wrote:

get used to it.. wrote:

Why do idiots always think people are taking advantage of things? It is like you think any guy will play womens soccer just to shower with them or get a college scholarship. Non transgendered guys will not do this. If a student is identifying differently they are likely taking hormones, so do you want a genetic female who takes male hormones to transition playing womans soccer? You idiots are making a huge deal about nothing.

LOL yeah that could end up being the FIRST case of NOT doping. So a trans guy gets to compete in the women's side of competition BUT the kicker is that he must take female hormones in order to do so, BUT the big scandal comes about when it's discovered that this person is NOT taking drugs. Classic.

lol. brilliant :-)

Are you guys reduced to making up some negative impact in an election year? This affects a very small number of people with a real issue, not you. I guess you are trying to scare people because that is all the Trump party has. You just nominated a fraudulent reality tv personality and your Trump/GOP leadership is offering this as something to care about. Even Trump did not care until he was told getting hysterical about a non issue was the brilliant insight of his party leadership. Good Luck to the Trump party this year!

The Trump party! wrote:

Are you guys reduced to making up some negative impact in an election year? This affects a very small number of people with a real issue, not you. I guess you are trying to scare people because that is all the Trump party has. You just nominated a fraudulent reality tv personality and your Trump/GOP leadership is offering this as something to care about. Even Trump did not care until he was told getting hysterical about a non issue was the brilliant insight of his party leadership. Good Luck to the Trump party this year!

As someone who cannot stand Trump, your position and Obama's "decree" are equally ridiculous. Do you believe that someone has to support trump to understand that a 30 year old man and a 16 year old girl are the same thing?

Moreover, do you have anything supportive to say about the decree itself?

This is a nice post except for your last sentence. The Obama Administration does not mandate that we attempt to find a solution. It imposes a solution that is essentially, "allow anyone to identify with any gender they want, without medical evidence, or else no federal funding for you." As the conservatives have pointed out, it's very heavy handed, overly broad, radical in the theory that underlies it, and likely to end (or at least severely damage) women's sports as we currently know it. There's got to be a better solution that doesn't destroy an institution for 50% of the population.

OK.

Obama did not issue a decree ending sex segregated sports in all schools.

So the title of the thread is false.

The administration set up guidelines for the treatment of people who identify as transgender.

Sports are still segregated by sex, it even mentioned that they can participate in sex-segregated activities.

So sports are still segregated by gender and boys can't just sign up to compete against girls.

If someone born a boy wants to be a girl, they would have to identify as a girl for everything across the board, not just go out for the girls track team.

You'd have to change your entire life just to make a case to compete as a girl, it can't be done on a whim to prove a point.

Personally, I don't think anyone that ever had male hormones should compete against women. There is an inherent unfair advantage and it is detrimental to the female athletes.

This release can be subject to amendment or clarification for NCAA purposes.

And even if it did allow college boys to compete against women it has no bearing over IOC, IAAF and USATF competition.

This release was more about the every day treatment of transgendered students.

The word "sports" wasn't even mentioned. The word "activities" is being interpreted to stoke this particular fire.

My feeling is that this will extend civil rights that may have been infringed upon and the subject of participation in sports will addressed down the road as soon as it presents itself as a problem.

I think sports can be fixed by having an "Open" category and a "Female" category.

All trans people can compete in the Open category.

^This forum has no place for rational discussion.

Conservatives are the biggest piss baby pantswetters ever. Remember when WeJo told us to vote for Bush? How did that work out?

The decree said nothing about "open" bathrooms, now, did it? The end of your post is actually more level-headed than the decree itself.

The rest of your post ignores history. Once the dam breaks, for better or for worse, social change inundates every aspect of society.

WejoVotedForBush wrote:

^This forum has no place for rational discussion.

Conservatives are the biggest piss baby pantswetters ever. Remember when WeJo told us to vote for Bush? How did that work out?

Cute.

Do you have anything positive to say about the decree itself? Or will you simply mock those who disagree with you?

thejeff wrote:

WejoVotedForBush wrote:

^This forum has no place for rational discussion.

Conservatives are the biggest piss baby pantswetters ever. Remember when WeJo told us to vote for Bush? How did that work out?

Cute.

Do you have anything positive to say about the decree itself? Or will you simply mock those who disagree with you?

Well, you've got to admit that it is pretty easy to mock someone who "'understands' that a 30 year old man and a 16 year old girl are the same thing".

Well Actually wrote:

thejeff wrote:

Cute.

Do you have anything positive to say about the decree itself? Or will you simply mock those who disagree with you?

Well, you've got to admit that it is pretty easy to mock someone who "'understands' that a 30 year old man and a 16 year old girl are the same thing".

Not sure I follow you. He wasn't mocking Obama, and Obama is the only one who thinks a 30 year old man can be a 16 year old girl.

thejeff wrote:

Cute.

Do you have anything positive to say about the decree itself? Or will you simply mock those who disagree with you?

Yes, conservative pissbabies deserve to be mocked. Shouldn't you be out stocking up on ammo for the Mexican-Mooslim invasion?

WejoVotedForBush wrote:

thejeff wrote:

Cute.

Do you have anything positive to say about the decree itself? Or will you simply mock those who disagree with you?

Yes, conservative pissbabies deserve to be mocked. Shouldn't you be out stocking up on ammo for the Mexican-Mooslim invasion?

I will take that as a "No, yes".

thejeff wrote:

I will take that as a "No, yes".

I think the decree is great. But then again, I don't piss my pants when something moderately outside of my experience rightfully demands equal rights.

What do you think is great about it?

There are 8ish pages on this thread pointing out what is wrong with it. Do you have any counterpoints to offer?

thejeff wrote:

What do you think is great about it?

There are 8ish pages on this thread pointing out what is wrong with it. Do you have any counterpoints to offer?

I haven't read this board in 10 years since it turned into a bunch of pissbaby theo-cons wanking on about how persecuted they are.

LetsRun: Come for the Xenophobia, Stay for the Gay Bashing!

WejoVotedForBush wrote:

thejeff wrote:

What do you think is great about it?

There are 8ish pages on this thread pointing out what is wrong with it. Do you have any counterpoints to offer?

I haven't read this board in 10 years since it turned into a bunch of pissbaby theo-cons wanking on about how persecuted they are.

LetsRun: Come for the Xenophobia, Stay for the Gay Bashing!

then... how are you reading this?

Still waiting for you to defend the decree.

Are you just going to spend another page of posts coming up with new names to call conservatives or do you have anything to add?

Seriously I would HATE to be the school administrator that has to make the call on a scenario where a trans male wants to participate on a women's team of any kind. (And I'm not talking about a guy trying to prove a point either.)

As an administrator you are going to risk turning yourself and school district into a national pariah or turning the women's competition into a complete joke.