This is exactly what happened to Ritz. Gluttony to run, when not ready. I told someone, Det Rits will go nowhere when he begins Running Marathons too early.
Please Rup, just build yourself in Track and transition slowly to Marathon. Just like Kenyans do.
You start with Marathon, you are beginning to destroy your running career. Mark this words.
Disagree.
When it's gone, it's gone. There will never be a better time for Rupp to run 26, because Nike hasn't invented time travel just yet.
Get on the team, be tough at the Games, cash in during the fall. That's the easy part. Surviving until fall 2017 to do something again will be something altogether different.
The real question is whether will he wear a face mask or not.
Top Tier: Ritz, Meb, Rupp
Second Tier: Puskedra, Estrada, Chelanga, Ward
Third Tier: Curtis, Kibet, Abdi, Vail
TrackCoach wrote:
back when Ritz was with NOP, Rupp, Ritz and Mo ran 18 mile training runs on dirt at the likely OTM pace and this was when Rupp was training primarily like a 5K guy running less than 100 mpw.
Source?
I recall 5:35 pace reports, but not 5 minute pace for 18 miles.
Father_time wrote:
inside knowledge kids... Meb's legs are gone, something to do with aging or some such, go figure!
He could follow Abdi's lead.
Abdi won't be a factor lol
Homunculus wrote:
Technically accurate wrote:I do feel though if he is not in it over the last few miles he will drop.Lots of important races down the line this year for him. A much larger payday for a debut marathon away from the trials as the next great american hope.
Fourth place is worth $25,000 and fifth place is worth $20,000. That's a decent incentive to not drop out late.
That is respectable top five prize money for anyone but Rupp.
Appearance money for a silver medalist, american record holder would be significantly more than the finish money you note. Add in prize money at a major,well you get the drift.
It's all up in the air with Rupp. On paper especially with his HM times, he has potential to run 2:08 for sure.
But the marathon is the marathon and many incredible talents have debuted at the distance with less than impressive results: Zerseny Tadese and Leonard Komon immediately come to mind.
Rupp running tonight? wrote:
Oregon Project tweeted yesterday that Treniere and Rupp are competing tonight at the House of Track. I don't see Rupp on the entry lists. Anyone have more info on what the story is?
Why did Rupp race the 3K Friday night?
splain it to me, lucy wrote:
Rupp running tonight? wrote:Oregon Project tweeted yesterday that Treniere and Rupp are competing tonight at the House of Track. I don't see Rupp on the entry lists. Anyone have more info on what the story is?
Why did Rupp race the 3K Friday night?
Continuos Yasso 3k. 2:08 pace per 800m. Getting ready for 2:08 at the trials.
Rupp is going to have sex the night before the Olympic Trials and take a performance hit. Will come in at 2:22
Qualifier for US Indoors.
splain it to me, lucy wrote:
Rupp running tonight? wrote:Oregon Project tweeted yesterday that Treniere and Rupp are competing tonight at the House of Track. I don't see Rupp on the entry lists. Anyone have more info on what the story is?
Why did Rupp race the 3K Friday night?
Mirage Sports Book wrote:
Rupp is going to have sex the night before the Olympic Trials and take a performance hit. Will come in at 2:22
What???? Rupp always spends the night before a race with Salazar. Muscles get massaged with "ointments" to optimize them for the battle ahead.
smoke and mirrors and rubbish wrote:
since when are there American distance runners who can push the pace harder than Rupp is compfortable with? (especially when he isn't doubling back from another tough race) He'll be set and tapered for this one
salazar would put rupp in there if he didn't think he was in 2:07-08 shape. one guy in the race has run that.
Salazar's best event was the marathon. he's rupp's coach. he pretty much got dathan to 2:07 shape. he got his 3:28 1500m world beater to throw down a 2:08 on his debut knowing he wasn't even transitioning to the marathon any time soon.
rupp is faster than dathan at most distances (i think he could run faster than Ritz's 1/2 PB as well.
chelanga - great runner, never run a marathon either and has more to lose than rupp = he's got to run more conservative than not, right?! i'll be rooting for him
estrada = burns out at end of big races, pushes pace too early when feeling good and his best races are lower key ones (typically)
Puskedra = had an amazing race @ chicago and i want him to qualify, but that could have been an outlier effort
Kibet = total wild card, who knows. he'll probably qualify
meb = we all know the meb story
broken arrow wrote:The question is will Chelanga, Kibet, Estrada let the pace be easy? If it is they may press early on and force Rupp, and others to run hard and make it an honest race. I hope this is the case, I would not like to see an easy pace and a big group together at 35k.
Picking the top three is not easy, as anything can happen with Rupp in his first Marathon, everyone is talking about Meb and Ritz. Of course they deserve to be talked about, but guys like Chelanga and Kibet, Puskedra and Estrada are all dangerous.
I would like to see all three have to go sub 2:10 to qualify.
Pre-race favorities:
1st: Meb Keflezighi (defending champion and 4th in Olympics)
2nd: Luke Puskedra (took Ryan Hall's place)
3rd: Galen Rupp (took Abdi Abdirahman's place)
4th: Dathan Ritzenhein or Jared Ward
Result:
1st: Galen Rupp
2nd: Meb Keflezighi
3rd: Jared Ward
4th: Luke Puskedra
5th: Tyler Pennel
(Dathan Ritzenhein eventually DNF)
420 ... mile? wrote:
Top Tier: Ritz, Meb, Rupp
Second Tier: Puskedra, Estrada, Chelanga, Ward
Third Tier: Curtis, Kibet, Abdi, Vail
Top Tier: Meb, Puskedra, Rupp
Second Tier: Ritz, Ward, Estrada, Chelanga
Third Tier: Curtis, Kibet, Bauhs, Gotcher, Pennel
Runner replacement (transition period):
Ryan Hall -> Luke Puskedra (May 2015 - January 2016)
Abdi Abdirahman -> Galen Rupp (December 2015 - June 2016)
Alan Webb -> Ryan Hill (May 2013 - December 2013)
Matt Tegenkamp -> Jim Spisak (January 2016 - April 2016)
Galen Rupp -> Chris Derrick (June 2015 - January 2016)
Meb Keflezighi -> Samuel Chelanga (September 2015 - August 2016)
Galen Rupp will compete Amsterdam Marathon in the Netherlands after Rio olympic marathon.
Galen Rupp's race schedule:
August 21, 2016: Rio olympic marathon (Brazil)
September 20, 2016: US 5k road champ
October 16, 2016: TCS Amsterdam marathon (Netherlands)
January, 2017: Jacksonville Bank Half
Jared Ward's race schedule:
September 5, 2016: US 20k road champ
October, 2016: Twin Cities marathon
November, 2016: TCS NYC marathon
Jason Witt's race schedule:
September 5, 2016: US 20k road champ
September 20, 2016: US 5k road champ
October, 2016: Twin Cities marathon
Luke Puskedra:
September 20, 2016: US 5k road champ
October, 2016: Chicago marathon
Meb Keflezighi:
August 21, 2016: Rio olympic marathon (Brazil)
September 20, 2016: US 5k road champ
Scott Bauhs and Brett Gotcher:
September 5, 2016: US 20k road champ
October, 2016: US 10 miles road champ
Andrew Benford and Steve Finley:
September 20, 2016: US 5k road champ
Carl Stones, Mark Feigen, Chris Moen and Danny Thater:
September 5, 2016: US 20k road champ
October, 2016: Twin Cities marathon
Dathan Ritzenhein:
September 5, 2016: US 20k road champ
September 20, 2016: US 5k road champ
October, 2016: US 10 miles road champ
Eric Jenkins, Ben True and Christo Landry:
September 5, 2016: US 20k road champ
September 20, 2016: US 5k road champ
John Gregorek, Trovor Dunbar, Evan Jager and Jim Spisak:
September 5, 2016: US 20k road champ
September 20, 2016: US 5k road champ
October 16, 2016: TCS Amsterdam marathon (Netherlands)
During 2007-2012
Ryan Hall: Marathon/Half marathon
Luke Beevor: 50k/100k
Galen Rupp: outdoor track 5k/10k
