And still using wrote:
HGHed wrote:Except for the fact the prednisone is a performance enhancing drug. I don't care if he had a TUE or not, it does aid performance.
And Magness just stated he has a photo of Rupp recently using Prednisone.
Anyone got a link to a study quantifying the performance enhancing qualities of Prednisone? Hard for me to believe they'd be significant enough to be clearly more than statistical noise, but I'm happy to look at whatever data people have on the subject.
No mention of GH EPO or corticosteroids
Looks to me like they missed the good stuff and magness and goucher were never inside the doping loop
Best response.
two and a half years ago....
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5002059&page=2
br0ski wrote:
Of course flotrack has nothing on the story....
+1. Nut up FT
WOw, NOP fanboys are flailing away. Kara showed the bottle of banned stuff Salazar gave her. She has had enough. She is not worried about being implicated. Salazar, on the other hand, is far ahead of what he had Kara trying.
Who do you suppose is the anonymous former NOPer they interviewed in Portland?
Anyone gone to flotrack today? It's official that they are just a shrill PR company for the shoe companies. This story has been out for what 4 hours and they have zero up on it on their site.
LOL.
The voice was redone. No way to figure out who it was. It could well be a current NOPer.
Show's over.
I don't think there's any compelling new evidence that they BROKE THE RULES. But it makes it a lot clearer how close to the wind that group sails and is going to seriously harm the NOP's reputation.
Getting TUEs for things that weren't medically necessary - well, didn't the whole world know that already? Hasn't he always said he'll do anything he can within the rules?
It sounded like Al Sal admitted to handing out thyroid drugs for weight loss in his statement, but said "it's not against the rules".
Brianruns10 wrote:
Who do you suppose is the anonymous former NOPer they interviewed in Portland?
It could be Luke Puskedra, Dorian Ulrey...
eurodonkey wrote:
It sounded like Al Sal admitted to handing out thyroid drugs for weight loss in his statement, but said "it's not against the rules".
In today's drug world this will no longer fly as an excuse.
On a positive note, Alberto Salazar is now trending
I wonder where the money for all this gray-area (and most likely beyond) treatment is coming from? Sure, the athletes are held accountable, once in a while trainers and coaches, but we never see the sponsors punished.
first 10 minutes of BBC news that followed the programme is all about the programme we've just watched and repeating all the main allegations
seems the Beeb are very keen to get the message out!
"A former Nike Oregon Project runner, who wanted to remain anonymous, told Panorama that he was encouraged by a former Nike scientist to get testosterone and thyroid drugs because "this is what Alberto does".
"I talked to some people that know sport,” he said.
“They started to put words to it - that's micro-dosing - that is illegal."
gwalkerruns wrote:
Kara comes out looking fishy at best in this. She wants to come off as the clean whistleblower but for us to believe that we have to believe the following.....
1. She ran with Salazar for years but did not dope herself.
2. She didnt know about the doping until near the end.
3. She won a medal at worlds without doping but beat others who did.
Not buying it. Perhaps she knows her competitive days are over and this will raise her profile....
Also: She and hubby go to him after not making 2004 Olympic team; Salazar had had rep for this stuff for 20 years by that point. So did they just ignore that? Ask about it? What?
Wow.
Dirty South wrote:
but we never see the sponsors punished.
Who do you think has authority over sponsors and how would they be punished?
...really? wrote:
row row rowbury your boat wrote:Are you trying to be sarcastic here? Yeah this is the same old haters gunna hate anti-NOP bs as always. The only difference is that this time it's coming from from the reporter who broke the Lance and A-Rod stories working in conjunction with the BBC. It'll blow over for sure. Are you kidding?
This is going mainstream.
I would say I am more ignorant of both of those cases, and the difference between supported suggestion and verification. Perhaps this is how Lance's cases unraveled, I honestly don't know.
My opinion really doesn't matter, so how I read the articles and viewed the documentary is completely irrelevant. Your response does make me nervous, however, for Salazar and Rupp. I would never have called them innocent, but I can't decide if I hoped Rupp would remain "uncaught" because of what his accomplishments represent for American distance running, or because I feel like "everyone else is doing it."
It may be foolish and criminal to some, but I support Rupp because we need him.