Official 2025 Rabat Diamond League Live Discussion Thread (2-4 pm ET Sunday)

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It should be obvious that this isn't true now. She's an 800/1600 runner and she barely ran faster than Mu in her 1600 today -- in a race for big money. You might be able to make an argument for her being the best 800 runner, but it's a stretch, not a DEFINITELY.

Who is better?

- Wiley is ranked #1 is the US and #10 in the world

- She has the #1 and #4 fastest times in the US so far in 2025; #4 performer in the world

- She had the fastest time in the US in 2024 and the #8 fastest in the world

- From 2023 -2025, she has the #2, #7, and #8 fastest times by an American; nobody else has more than 1 in the top-8

- The others in the top-8 are Rogers (hasn't broken 2:01 since 2023), Wilson (just opened with a 2:08 at Trackfest), Mu (only one race under 2:00 since 2023 1:58.8 and Wiley won their only head-to-head race), Akins (Wiley owns a 4-1 record against her, only loss when she was injured at the Trials), and Hurta-Klecker (2-0 record head-to-head, just beat her in Shanghai)

- Other top Americans: Hiltz (running the 1500), Whittaker (not running due to depression issues), Hunter (1-0 record), and Rose (lost to her at the Trials when injured)

- Wiley is currently 3rd in the Diamond League standings with 10 points and 12 points made the Final last year; one more good DL performance will put her in the DL Final

- She has beaten everybody ranked in the top-15 in the world in an 800m race except for Moraa, Duguma, Hodgkinson (never raced) and Mesele (never raced).

Moraa 0-2, Hodgkinson 0-0, Duguma 0-3, Sekgodiso 1-1, Lamonte 3-0, Maloney 3-1, Reekie 1-0, Goule-Toppin 2-3, Nakaayi 2-2, Mesele 0-0, Hurta-Klecker 2-0, Getachew 1-0, Werro 3-1, Gajanova 3-0

And you are going to say she isn't the best 800m runner because of a poor 1500m race, the first one she has run since last year's Trials? She ran 4:07. Take a look at the other GST results. Her time was just as fast.

Kingston - Welteji 4:04, US #2 all-time Hiltz 4:05, Hull 4:05, indoor AR holder MacLean 4:07

Miami - Hailu 4:07, Hiltz 4:07, Welteji 4:07, US #3 all-time Mackey 4:10.

How did the other top-800m runner fair at GST? Moraa DNS, 4:24, and 4:25; Maloney 4:16; Goule-Toppin 4:20; Hurta-Klecker 4:10; Akins DNF

If you put Wiley, Hurta-Klecker, Mu, Akins, Rogers, Wilson, Whittaker, Hunter, Paige, Tobias, Rose, Baker, Watson, Bossong, and Willis on a start line tomorrow and you had to bet your life on the winner, who are you going to take? I'm taking Wiley.

Make your argument for who is better right now.

You don't have to make that argument to say that Wiley is not "DEFINITELY the best 800 runner in the US." If I had to guess, she will lose to Mu and a few more of the 18 women who beat her at the Olympic Trials last year. At the very least, you have to admit that it's a possibility, even if you don't think it's a good possibility (like I do).