You mistake prs for speed. Jakob doesn't have the top-end speed - which translates as kick - to other guys in the 1500/mile. That's why he now loses to them. This is no longer a controversial point. The question is how does he counter that.
I disagree -think the question is if Hocker, Kerr, Nuguse, Laros, or Kessler can improve so much that one of them can out run Jakob simply because more in the tank on the home straight. But I would still give the odds to a healthy and (and tactically/ executably) improved Jakob, given his head start 3.26.73, but we live in exciting times…
A kick isnt "more in the tank"; it is the ability to accelerate. A runner may have more in the tank at the end of the race but limited acceleration. A kick is typically anaerobic, so it is related more to strength than stamina. Other runners now have a greater ability than Jakob to accelerate at the end of a race. That is why he is being beaten.
For a 3k guy as well. And for a 1 mile and for a 1500m guy too. No one in the current crop is any faster over the distance.
You mistake prs for speed. Jakob doesn't have the top-end speed - which translates as kick - to other guys in the 1500/mile. That's why he now loses to them. This is no longer a controversial point. The question is how does he counter that.
No, you mistake top speed and speed. Speed is distance over time. He has the highest speed over the 1500 the last years. If his competitors was able to run the 1500 faster he wouldn't.
You are quite right. But Jakob is the best in the 3000m -unfortunately not a champs event. So what’s exciting short term is if he can improve time wise (and champ wise in the 1500m) so much in both the 1500m and 5000m to be one of a kind. -Very close even now if you ask me…
You're right. Jakob's best distance is a non-championship distance. I think he is always at risk of being beaten in a championship 1500 now. His top-end speed limits him. I agree he could likely run faster than he has in the 5k but I don't see him as yet getting near the wr. He could be beaten in a 5k championship if it is run at 12:40 or better pace.
If an older person has a 7 year head start on training and racing, you could be more talented but less accomplished.
Hocker just won the Olympics. Beating Jakob. It’s not far fetched. Your “most talented” guy finished 4th despite a 6/7 year head start on training.
I'm obviously comparing them at the same age, lol.
Sorry for the aggression. I know you were. My point is that Jakob is faster / more accomplished at the same age because he has more training years.
For example, in 2019, Jakob was competing at the world championships. In 2019, Hobbs was a rock climber.
When runners are younger and have less training time, they can be as talented, or more talented than older, more well-trained runners, but still slower than them currently.
You mistake prs for speed. Jakob doesn't have the top-end speed - which translates as kick - to other guys in the 1500/mile. That's why he now loses to them. This is no longer a controversial point. The question is how does he counter that.
No, you mistake top speed and speed. Speed is distance over time. He has the highest speed over the 1500 the last years. If his competitors was able to run the 1500 faster he wouldn't.
Top-end speed is what is addressed by speed-work; the speed you are referring to is the result of endurance. He has enormous amounts of the latter but less of the former compared to some other md runners. That is why he is outkicked.