It's a shame that any team comes out of the Midwest when you consider that probably 4 non-qualifying teams in the SW and West would leave Downers North in their dust. And Romeo has been overrated all year. Downers' first girl finished 33rd, then the rest finished #46, 56, 86, 89. Romeo's finished #36/51/55/76/96. Those aren't National-worthy teams... but Downers is getting the trip of their lifetime for it because the race they won was a pillow fight.
that's not true downers grove is a very good team. A candidate to be top 6
Downers Grove North boys team is great but I think Rea Sea was talking about the girls
They lost to a team that doesn't have a 5th runner. They deserve nothing. Get ready for track.
It's a shame that any team comes out of the Midwest when you consider that probably 4 non-qualifying teams in the SW and West would leave Downers North in their dust. And Romeo has been overrated all year. Downers' first girl finished 33rd, then the rest finished #46, 56, 86, 89. Romeo's finished #36/51/55/76/96. Those aren't National-worthy teams... but Downers is getting the trip of their lifetime for it because the race they won was a pillow fight.
That’s how regions work. Deal with it. For someone claiming something is a ‘pillow fight’, you sure seem like a fluffy snowflake yourself…
I wonder how they determine the at large bids. What is the mathmatical formula for running up for 1200 meters early in the race vs a pancake golf course?
It looks like the golf course region could put 10-15 teams before 2-3in the region with a mountain.
The times are much more sexy on the flat golf course.
Ridgefield 3rd in the northeast for the second year in a row deserve consideration.
They are comparable this year to last year. They are very consistent and have a team as good as any team in Ct history.
They have recently been racing on challenging courses. Their coach is the master of peaking when it counts. They have been there before and should be there again.
Ridgefield 3rd in the northeast for the second year in a row deserve consideration.
They are comparable this year to last year. They are very consistent and have a team as good as any team in Ct history.
They have recently been racing on challenging courses. Their coach is the master of peaking when it counts. They have been there before and should be there again.
Well, Vandegrift also took 3rd second time in a row and no at large last year
Rocky boys missed NXN by 1 spot for the last 2 years, so Ridgefield won’t be alone in this regard especially if Rocky doesn’t get a bid.
Dowling Catholic took 3rd in 2022 and 2023 and no at large but they’re in a weak region for teams. And they made NXN in 2012
the reason the northeast don't get picked isn't because of times, it has more to do with place at nxn. I wonder if the 2 week break this year will change that
I wonder how they determine the at large bids. What is the mathmatical formula for running up for 1200 meters early in the race vs a pancake golf course?
It looks like the golf course region could put 10-15 teams before 2-3in the region with a mountain.
The times are much more sexy on the flat golf course.
Specifically because of how crazy Bowdin is. 400m of open field in the beginning. Rolling hills to 1200m then straight uphill from 1200 to 2000m. 2k - 2.4k is the big hill which is RUTHLESS. Then it peaks and the downhill is so steep and short you barely get to relax in it. Then more rolling hills at the end. Not to mention how much mud the course holds, the winds coming off the hudson and how races are under 50 degrees in November.
Speaking for the girls, I think that Cali will get two bids, sw will get one, and the Carmel girls from the Midwest will get the last one. If you look at there performance all season, there consistent high rank, how close the Midwest regional was compared to many others, they should have a good shot. Not to mention that Lavern course is a lot harder course than these flat turf fields a lot of these other regions run on.
Nike puts stock into which teams sitting in the 3rd/4th position have beaten other ranked teams as some point during the season, and which times were slightly off an auto qualifier. If you’re a team that came in 3rd, has a few wins over auto-qualifying teams and are within 20pts of second…you’re in.
I wonder how they determine the at large bids. What is the mathmatical formula for running up for 1200 meters early in the race vs a pancake golf course?
It looks like the golf course region could put 10-15 teams before 2-3in the region with a mountain.
The times are much more sexy on the flat golf course.
Specifically because of how crazy Bowdin is. 400m of open field in the beginning. Rolling hills to 1200m then straight uphill from 1200 to 2000m. 2k - 2.4k is the big hill which is RUTHLESS. Then it peaks and the downhill is so steep and short you barely get to relax in it. Then more rolling hills at the end. Not to mention how much mud the course holds, the winds coming off the hudson and how races are under 50 degrees in November.
Try the Colorado state course: Over 6000’ elevation. Lots of hills. Final quarter mile is a water crossing and a steep hill into a rodeo stadium. Last year it was snowing lightly. This year it was mild.
Speaking for the girls, I think that Cali will get two bids, sw will get one, and the Carmel girls from the Midwest will get the last one. If you look at there performance all season, there consistent high rank, how close the Midwest regional was compared to many others, they should have a good shot. Not to mention that Lavern course is a lot harder course than these flat turf fields a lot of these other regions run on.
The SW is the toughest region. It went 1-4 last year. Carmel is a solid team, but they and the rest of the MW teams would finish somewhere between 8-10 in the SW region. The top 7 teams in the SW would win most regions.
1) Finish 3rd at NXR and you Beat a regional champ sometime between the last weekend in September and NXR (they don’t look at if you beat a 2nd place NXR squad in their initial look)
2) Hottest teams (meaning the committee deems that you ran great at NXR….which seems strange to finish 3rd at an NXR despite being “hot”)
If a team is good enough to beat an NXR Champ in the regular season I don’t think 3rd place at NXR is being hot
1) Finish 3rd at NXR and you Beat a regional champ sometime between the last weekend in September and NXR (they don’t look at if you beat a 2nd place NXR squad in their initial look)
2) Hottest teams (meaning the committee deems that you ran great at NXR….which seems strange to finish 3rd at an NXR despite being “hot”)
If a team is good enough to beat an NXR Champ in the regular season I don’t think 3rd place at NXR is being hot
I don't think there are any third place teams that recently beat a regional championship yet on the girls side.
And there weren't many unusually hot performances. Unless something happens with California, they'll probably end up looking to see who beat other NXN qualifiers or other criteria that isn't listed.
Speaking for the girls, I think that Cali will get two bids, sw will get one, and the Carmel girls from the Midwest will get the last one. If you look at there performance all season, there consistent high rank, how close the Midwest regional was compared to many others, they should have a good shot. Not to mention that Lavern course is a lot harder course than these flat turf fields a lot of these other regions run on.
The midwest region didn't have any dominant teams. There aren't any low sticks on any of the top teams from that region. They might get picked, but they'll get crushed at NXN.