NXN 2024 at-large bids

Coronado: their xfer comes online, and makes up for their injured athlete. Not going to podium though

The UT and CA teams. Hard to say which now.

I'm sorry man, I know that feeling. My team had one of our worst races of the year yesterday and lost our region which we were supposed to destroy (we ended up getting second). Lyons is a dynasty, and the fact that you are top 7 as a sophomore is super impressive. You guys will be back there next year.

NXR Midwest just happened now and Plainfield North boys team took third and I don’t think they beat any autoqualifiers or potential autoqualifers this year, so it seems like they have about the same resume as Rocky Mountain’s

6 regions left

Midwest boys are way down this year. There should not be any at large berths for the midwest boys this year. This might be the weakest the region has ever been.

Timberline beat JSerra at Bob Firman. 4 points away from second at NXR. If JSerra autoqualifies from CA, Timberline will possibly get an at large.

Or could we see 2 girls Southwest and 2 girls California at larges?

Outside of Southwest, one region that could be a possible bottleneck for Rocky’s or Plainfield North’s at large chances is the South region.

If Bentonville gets 3rd, they will have a better chance than the 2 above because they beat Heartland champs Spring Hill. Although that was at the beginning of the season. South region has been improving a lot lately

NE region has two good boys teams. No at-large from there. NY region is even weaker for boys. Only chance for an at-large for girls is if Saratoga takes 2nd at NXR and Shen takes 3rd.

I believe the rule is two california teams, one of which will sort of make sense and the other will be controversial.

I doubt that there will even be one at large from CA on the boys side this year.
Last year the third CA team took 17th.

All of the top California boys teams from last year lost a lot of seniors.

At Woodbridge, the top California boys team lost to 3 Northwest teams. Except Jesuit CA wasn’t there and Arnold Beckman just had an off race. These two did really well at Clovis but right now I think these are the only two “national caliber” teams from California. Great Oak’s best runner hasn’t raced all season. If Great Oak somehow gets back in the top 2 in the state, it would increase Rocky Mountain’s chances of getting a bid because Rocky beat GO at Bob Firman.

California could get a bid if Arnold Beckman and Jesuit are close in scoring in the merge and the third team is right there and far ahead of the 4th CA team

lol Letsrun never fails to crack me up

People say Rocky won't get an at-large because they aren't good enough and they didn't travel to get a resume.

Then people say that the Midwest won't get an at-large because they are much weaker than average

Now we're talking about how Cali won't get one because they're down this year as well.

Considering that the Heartland, Southeast, and New York regions are weak to the point that it's all but a given that they won't get an at-large, who exactly is going to get one at this rate?

How about 3rd place girls' team in heartland. They were 2-0 over the 2nd place team prior to the meet. That's what the criteria calls for.

wondering if a similar situation plays out in the SE. If Knoxville catholic loses out to a Marvin Ridge or McCallie and gets 3rd, Knoxville has beaten both teams this year.

Heartland girls teams went 21 & 22 last year

Yes. But their criteria is clear. It says nothing about strength of the region.

Well last year before NXR, Riverton and Niwot boys didn’t beat any autoqualifiers at all. and both got at-larges, and they proved at NXN that they belong there, by placing in the top 9.

You do understand that last year was last year, correct?

Here's word for word from Gonzo and his NXN Committee and what they are looking for when they choose the 4 at large births

-"First look" in analysis goes to any third-place team that beat a regional champion anywhere from the last weekend in September to the end of the season prior to regionals. Those teams are not automatically selected, but we review their body of work thoroughly first since they beat a regional champ. If a team is of very high quality, but from a loaded region, this gives them first dibs at a thorough review

-Another key thing we look at after the above item is how well the team ran at their Nike Regional Championship. We want the teams that are running hottest at the end of the year, most especially those that had a VERY strong showing at their regional championship.

A couple of quick thoughts based on these two "criteria"

Not sure that a team that gets 3rd at their Regional is going to describe finishing 3rd as being hot at the right time, nobody is wanting to finish in 3rd at NXR so that criteria is a strange (subjective) one. The first one is clear, try to go predict who will win a region in November and then go beat then in late September/October, but then be hot in November still when you only finish 3rd in your Nike Regional.