PV missed a golden opportunity. The race was mostly a boring slow plod - in that case her plan should have been to get in front and do what she does best. Push it. Nothing to lose. She did try it, but way too late. Sure she would have been mauled on last 2 laps but at least it would have been worth the trip. As it was, she looked scared, and finished nowhere in a slow time.
This is one the dumber posts I’ve read on LRC. You clearly have never actually competed in our sport.
College athlete who ran a really gutsy race, sad that Letsrun can only be negative about this. She will be a force to be reckoned with in a few years under pro training.
What is wrong with some of ya'll. Didn't waste energy running off the front & made a good, hard, move with ~1200 to go. She's a collegiate runner who can't close a global championship in sub-60. Let her develop as a pro but making the team & finishing 11/25, after being in the lead group right up until the end, is only a bad thing in a place like this.
There isn't anything to really say about how she performed. She did as well as could be expected, given her degree of experience and level of talent. The only reason there are pages on an international novice - who of course has the potential to improve - is the ridiculous trumpeting by fans who haven't a clue what it takes for an athlete to succeed at the international level. She didn't fail. She simply showed that reality has nothing to do with the fantasies expressed here, that are chiefly based on her looks and not her ability.
On the plus side, this should put an end to all the low IQ posts constantly accusing Valby of doping. I mean when the break came at the end of the race, it was incredibly easy to tell who’s on the sauce and who isn’t.
Way to keep it pure, Valby!
No, it doesn't show that. It is possible for an athlete to make 11th in an Olympic final because they doped to get there. It doesn't mean they will make the top three.
There isn't anything to really say about how she performed. She did as well as could be expected, given her degree of experience and level of talent. The only reason there are pages on an international novice - who of course has the potential to improve - is the ridiculous trumpeting by fans who haven't a clue what it takes for an athlete to succeed at the international level. She didn't fail. She simply showed that reality has nothing to do with the fantasies expressed here, that are chiefly based on her looks and not her ability.
While this isn’t untrue and no one knows what her future gains might be (given that she supposedly runs so little) her looks bump her up 10 spots easy. I recognize her as the silver in the Paris 10k. No make that gold.
True, but why bother to run races at all? Just hand out medals based on pr and we save a lot of hassle.
Many young and first time Olympians run poorly. See Wilson in 4x400, Mackay 1500, Wilson 800 etc. In hot humid weather, Valby ran within 8 sec of her pr and finished 11th. At worst that is right on expectations.
Let's see how she develops over next 4 years when she will be 25 for LA.
I am not saying that. I am criticizing the people trying to make something out of this middling performance. It was nothing more. Everyone in that race is by default in the final, there is no qualifying round in the 10k. She ran slow in a slow race. The placing is not relevant given how slow Chebet ran. Valby would have easily been lapped in a fast race.
This performance obviously exceeded her Bryan Clay race PB. That race was more evenly paced, in much cooler conditions.
No way. Here she was perfectly tapered and on a massive stage. Just a choke job and couldn't handle the moment.
No one is really impressed by vicious armchair quarterbacks criticizing kids. Really. You have had nothing nice to say. We get it. You just don't like her for whatever reason or you just like being a loser troll because that is the only way you can get attention in your empty life. One thing for sure - you show little knowledge of women's running at a high level. Go play in another sandbox with more like you.
9 seconds off her PR is roughly 1.5 seconds per mile only. This is her third 10k ever. She took a shot on goal in the race. She deals with horrific uncertainty and pain associated with her physical limitations. She lives where it is flat and hot and humid. She is female and monthly hormone cycles matter if you EVER coached female runners.
It was a terrific showing by an up and coming handicapped athlete against the best in the world.
I am not a Valby fan. K. Tuohy lives on the block behind me. She is a nice kid and I am a huge fan. ... but like Hawk said in Thor "I am starting to root for this guy" (Valby).
She ran a great race in her very first major. You are an anonymous troll jerk coward. You also know nothing about running.
11th is only a great race for someone you would have expected to come 20th.
Respectfully disagree with your opinion but you have every right to have it.
First timers that did huge PRs are listed on the board here as if they are the rule. They are not. They are anomalies. Statistical majority don't medal and don't do well. eg Quincy Wilson.
To repost part of my previous post...
9 seconds off her PR is roughly 1.5 seconds per mile only. This is her third 10k ever. She took a shot on goal in the race. She deals with horrific uncertainty and pain associated with her physical limitations. She lives where it is flat and hot and humid. She is female and monthly hormone cycles matter if you EVER coached female runners. It was a terrific showing by an up and coming handicapped athlete against the best in the world.
As someone who has dealt with crippling pain most of my life and came out an athlete on the other side, I am truly impressed by this kid.
Please note this is my OPINION. It is not right or wrong. I am not saying you are wrong. I am just trying to persuade you.
No way. Here she was perfectly tapered and on a massive stage. Just a choke job and couldn't handle the moment.
No one is really impressed by vicious armchair quarterbacks criticizing kids. Really. You have had nothing nice to say. We get it. You just don't like her for whatever reason or you just like being a loser troll because that is the only way you can get attention in your empty life. One thing for sure - you show little knowledge of women's running at a high level. Go play in another sandbox with more like you.
9 seconds off her PR is roughly 1.5 seconds per mile only. This is her third 10k ever. She took a shot on goal in the race. She deals with horrific uncertainty and pain associated with her physical limitations. She lives where it is flat and hot and humid. She is female and monthly hormone cycles matter if you EVER coached female runners.
It was a terrific showing by an up and coming handicapped athlete against the best in the world.
I am not a Valby fan. K. Tuohy lives on the block behind me. She is a nice kid and I am a huge fan. ... but like Hawk said in Thor "I am starting to root for this guy" (Valby).
I wish you more internal peace.
Like Fargo, I believe it is possible to encourage and root for more than one athlete; in this case, Touhy AND Valby --- and many others who have exhibited skill and talent and hard work. As for PV in this particular race, the biggest stage she has ever run on, I think she did great, and if nothing else, I applaud her bold move towards the front to push the pace at about 8-9k. And here's to Schweitzer and Kelati, too, finishing in 8th and 9th -- better than anyone of us on this thread could have done.
True, but why bother to run races at all? Just hand out medals based on pr and we save a lot of hassle.
Many young and first time Olympians run poorly. See Wilson in 4x400, Mackay 1500, Wilson 800 etc. In hot humid weather, Valby ran within 8 sec of her pr and finished 11th. At worst that is right on expectations.
Let's see how she develops over next 4 years when she will be 25 for LA.
I am not saying that. I am criticizing the people trying to make something out of this middling performance. It was nothing more. Everyone in that race is by default in the final, there is no qualifying round in the 10k. She ran slow in a slow race. The placing is not relevant given how slow Chebet ran. Valby would have easily been lapped in a fast race.
She wasn’t competitive, and might never be so, but she ran well. Her 31:00, with a significant negative split, was probably worth about 30:30.
Valby is my favourite athlete, but she is faced with an enormous conundrum because she cannot train adequately to win at this level. Her tendency to overuse injury and desire to live in Florida conspire against her hopes to become truly elite at an international level. I hope that Nike or whoever she ends up with can formulate a training plan that can help her reach her full potential.
11th is only a great race for someone you would have expected to come 20th.
Respectfully disagree with your opinion but you have every right to have it.
First timers that did huge PRs are listed on the board here as if they are the rule. They are not. They are anomalies. Statistical majority don't medal and don't do well. eg Quincy Wilson.
To repost part of my previous post...
9 seconds off her PR is roughly 1.5 seconds per mile only. This is her third 10k ever. She took a shot on goal in the race. She deals with horrific uncertainty and pain associated with her physical limitations. She lives where it is flat and hot and humid. She is female and monthly hormone cycles matter if you EVER coached female runners. It was a terrific showing by an up and coming handicapped athlete against the best in the world.
As someone who has dealt with crippling pain most of my life and came out an athlete on the other side, I am truly impressed by this kid.
Please note this is my OPINION. It is not right or wrong. I am not saying you are wrong. I am just trying to persuade you.
A handicapped runner doesn't compete in an Olympic final. You're talking about a relative handful of athletes on the planet.
She didn't do well despite her limitations, she did as well as her talent allowed. 11th in an Olympic 10k is still international level; it just isn't anywhere near the best. Barring injury she will improve but she has neither the aerobic engine or the speed to beat the best or become one of them.
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One reason Parker is fun to follow is that she appears to being having fun. All the detractors of Valbymania seem to be missing this key ingredient in their life.
Respectfully disagree with your opinion but you have every right to have it.
First timers that did huge PRs are listed on the board here as if they are the rule. They are not. They are anomalies. Statistical majority don't medal and don't do well. eg Quincy Wilson.
To repost part of my previous post...
9 seconds off her PR is roughly 1.5 seconds per mile only. This is her third 10k ever. She took a shot on goal in the race. She deals with horrific uncertainty and pain associated with her physical limitations. She lives where it is flat and hot and humid. She is female and monthly hormone cycles matter if you EVER coached female runners. It was a terrific showing by an up and coming handicapped athlete against the best in the world.
As someone who has dealt with crippling pain most of my life and came out an athlete on the other side, I am truly impressed by this kid.
Please note this is my OPINION. It is not right or wrong. I am not saying you are wrong. I am just trying to persuade you.
A handicapped runner doesn't compete in an Olympic final. You're talking about a relative handful of athletes on the planet.
She didn't do well despite her limitations, she did as well as her talent allowed. 11th in an Olympic 10k is still international level; it just isn't anywhere near the best. Barring injury she will improve but she has neither the aerobic engine or the speed to beat the best or become one of them.
She IS handicapped. That is a fact, not my opinion as above. It is incredible she got this far. Glen Cunningham and Wilma Rudolf were handicapped as well. Do your homework. Think out of your box.
As long as you have been on this board you dominate and bully and must have the endless last word every single thread with 1000's of posts like a child so your response is no surprise but you are definitely wrong on this one.
I am willing to give her credit for her handicap. Try doing the same.
I can hardly wait for your response again telling me I am wrong. I was super polite in my response to you hoping that you wouldn't start the endless bullying to have the last word and be "right" but you can't help yourself. I am Tapping out because you just have the time for thousands of posts and I dont. Have fun with your responses.
One reason Parker is fun to follow is that she appears to being having fun. All the detractors of Valbymania seem to be missing this key ingredient in their life.
Expect Great Things!!!
Hobby-joggers have fun; international athletes compete.
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