Because Hull is a blonde , white woman from one the, though athletically inferior, Western countries that majority of users on this site reside and cannot accept that they're constantly getting the floor mopped with them in the distance races. They will play dumb and give all sorts of lame excuses to explain a massive 5-7 second time drop of an extremely mediocre runner such as Hull.
She gets the massive benefit of being white and is hyped as a worthy challenger while at the same time ignoring her dramatic, by dramatic I mean highly suspicious, 'improvement'.
Everything about this sham permanence by hull screams 'aided' and you'd have to be either a complete fool or from one of the aforementioned countries to believe otherwise.
there are definitely a fair amount of people calling hull out for this obviously dirty performance.
But the number of people I've seen saying things like "she's not doping because she doesn't seeeeeeeem like she would" is disheartening.
There was someone saying that her body language in the interview didn't indicate she was lying. Like...what? That's all bias, you know.
It is only disheartening if you are new to this site. Let's assume Hull did not participate in this race and FK still beat her record from last year by .07 seconds, there would still be the same number of people claiming that , because she's African, she's doping, despite the consistent improvement over the past 10+ years she's been running including as a barefoot junior cross country champion. That she, is African, and has been dominant for this long is enough for a good number to view her suspiciously, read enviously, yet completely ignore the staggering 'improvement of 5-7 seconds in roughly a year at most of a consistent ~3:55 runner such as Hull.
You must be new to the site but should any African runner show any improvement, let alone 5-7 seconds then the self assured accusations of doping would be flying across this site. That "she's not doping because she doesn't seeeeeeeem like she would", is exactly why she would dope and with the assistance of her national sporting agency in Australia, read; cover-up, swear to high heaven that she's squeaky clean and the majority of the track and field media and revenue generating fans in the white western world would simply look the other way and completely ignore the rampant cheating by slowly killing the story.
Kipyegon’s wr thread is all doping this and doping that but hull gets nothing but praise….
Because Hull is a blonde , white woman from one the, though athletically inferior, Western countries that majority of users on this site reside and cannot accept that they're constantly getting the floor mopped with them in the distance races. They will play dumb and give all sorts of lame excuses to explain a massive 5-7 second time drop of an extremely mediocre runner such as Hull.
She gets the massive benefit of being white and is hyped as a worthy challenger while at the same time ignoring her dramatic, by dramatic I mean highly suspicious, 'improvement'.
Everything about this sham permanence by hull screams 'aided' and you'd have to be either a complete fool or from one of the aforementioned countries to believe otherwise.
ahahahahahha, not a single blacks chess player in the top 100. inferior mentally.
Because Hull is a blonde , white woman from one the, though athletically inferior, Western countries that majority of users on this site reside and cannot accept that they're constantly getting the floor mopped with them in the distance races. They will play dumb and give all sorts of lame excuses to explain a massive 5-7 second time drop of an extremely mediocre runner such as Hull.
She gets the massive benefit of being white and is hyped as a worthy challenger while at the same time ignoring her dramatic, by dramatic I mean highly suspicious, 'improvement'.
Everything about this sham permanence by hull screams 'aided' and you'd have to be either a complete fool or from one of the aforementioned countries to believe otherwise.
there are definitely a fair amount of people calling hull out for this obviously dirty performance.
But the number of people I've seen saying things like "she's not doping because she doesn't seeeeeeeem like she would" is disheartening.
Frankly calling it an "obviously dirty performance" is more disheartening.
What in the world was that?? Everyone has had supershoes for 5 years now, those don't explain year-to-year drops of this magnitude anymore, much less month-to-month. Is she just coming along at the right time?
Also since I'm an American so I view everything through that lens: she was giving ESP all she could handle earlier this year, and ESP just frontran a 3:55 after 2 5ks and 2 1500s. Is she ready to drop something like a 3:51? I was really hoping she'd be competing for a medal this year, but now there are 4 women between 3:49.0 and 3:50.9 and ESP isn't one of them. Hull is certainly a medal favorite after that race. I was hoping ESP would be in contention too, but Kipyegon was so far behind those pacers that she wasn't getting any drafting benefits, and she still crushed Hull that last 200m and almost ran a 3:48.
"Ain't no shoes that take off 5s in 6 weeks." When dey addss it ta da tracks, meds, new training, pacer lights, and other mod advances, oh ya dit mattta!
2019 - 4:01.80 2020 - 4:00.42 2021 - 3:58.81 2022- 3:59.31 2023 - 3:57.29 2024 (so far) - 3:50.83How often do deeply experienced athletes take 7 seconds off their 1500 PR in one year at the age of 27?Nike athlete. Who is her...
Because Hull is a blonde , white woman from one the, though athletically inferior, Western countries that majority of users on this site reside and cannot accept that they're constantly getting the floor mopped with them in the distance races. They will play dumb and give all sorts of lame excuses to explain a massive 5-7 second time drop of an extremely mediocre runner such as Hull.
She gets the massive benefit of being white and is hyped as a worthy challenger while at the same time ignoring her dramatic, by dramatic I mean highly suspicious, 'improvement'.
Everything about this sham permanence by hull screams 'aided' and you'd have to be either a complete fool or from one of the aforementioned countries to believe otherwise.
ahahahahahha, not a single blacks chess player in the top 100. inferior mentally.
Wow. Poster DmK above seems to lack cognitive skills.
Most European countries have long histories of chess education and competition, including organized scholastic and club systems. It is a common and serious pursuit among people in these countries, as well as their descendants living elsewhere like the US. This simply isn't the case among African and Caribbean countries and people. It is expected that Europeans and people of European descent dominate chess rankings... because they play chess. Duh, indeed.
This is like pointing out that European countries and descendants dominate ice hockey. This is not related to "inferior" ability of other people; it is because they play ice hockey. To say it is is about "inferiority" is not only racist but imbecilic. Black children raised in hockey or chess-playing communities have done very well -- there just aren't many with that exposure and background. See also: gymnastics.
As for running, European and "blacks" countries/communities both participate avidly in track. It is a major sport all over Europe, Africa and the Caribbean. And in spite of ample exposure and opportunities, typically Europeans/descendants struggle to compete in events 5000m and up.
I hope this fires up the American athletes. ESP has a superior 3000m by 4 seconds (8:20 vs 8:24) and almost identical PRs before today (3:55.99 vs 3:55.97.) Hiltz, Mackay, and ESP should be able to look at this and think it's possible for them too.
Also: Yes, it's the shoes obviously. Probably 4 seconds for a women's 1500m.
She's doped to the gills
And I can't believe shoes are 4 seconds for the 1500 - Jakob isn't a 3:31 runner
This. I theoretically think 3:30 could be clean for a male, but 3:27.5 or faster can't be real
Lol, they used to say similar things about a sub four minute mile back in the day and not so long ago about a sub two hour marathon
No, they didn't say that about the 4 minute mile. He is talking about doping and no one in 1954 had the first clue about that. You are also extremely naive if you think a 2 hour marathon isn't doped. So Kipchoge could have run 1:56 if he had juiced?
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This. I theoretically think 3:30 could be clean for a male, but 3:27.5 or faster can't be real
Could you please set out the scientific basis for these apparently arbitrary times? Is it your gut feel?
Try a knowledge of the history of the sport and the role played by doping. If you can't exercise that kind of judgement then you will never see doping. 3:26 is clean, 3:25, 3:24?
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