Jess Hull progression - nothing to see here

When they're at another level.

You know that someone's PB isn't a direct indicator of their ability? If Kipyeagon wasn't in this race do you think Hull would have ran the exact same time? Sometimes you don't get in to the perfect race while having the perfect fitness and perfect conditions every year all the time lol

The women's field all ran very fast. It's likely the shoes moreso than this one particular athlete is doping.

She looks clean, just full of spirit.

3:50.83 can be attributed to a very fast track. Faster than Hayward.

Seems like you don't really follow pro running, so will be interesting when you find out she has been a part of NOP in the past

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A few factors:

- Drugs: Who knows? She's as clean as the rest.

- The shoes.

- This particular track. Need to ask the athletes.

- Today was her day. Ala Lagat and Ngeny, she stuck to the 1,500m GOAT and ran an outer-body time.

"The shoes" existed when she ran PBs of 3:59 in 2022, and 3:57 in 2023.

We can definitely agree there is another level at play here.

The level where an experienced elite, who has raced at a high level every year for over a decade, suddenly lops seven seconds off their 1500 PB in one season.

All I'm saying is it's interesting.

You know that Hull raced SIX Diamond League races last year, right? And the World Championship. All with the winners seconds ahead of her.

Plenty of great opportunities to run her best, and she did.

Her best just got seven seconds faster.

This is really the best possible response.

You unwittingly provide the answer to an interesting question: What what the reaction here be if an elite Kenyan runner suddenly dropped seven seconds in the 1500?

She's raced on the fastest tracks in the world, chasing the fastest runners in the world, and could only keep up with 3:57 ... until running 3:50 today.

Yeah, sure, it's this particular track.

We all understand that athletes have great days and breakthroughs.

Can you point me to the race where Lagat broke his 1500 PB by sevens seconds? And was that at age 27?

I'd say it's not possible to drop seven seconds in a 1500 when you're a highly experienced athlete already among the top in the world...unless you've had "help". I hope WADA is paying attention.

This. It’s not just her time. It’s her sudden never-seen-before ability to run on the heels of the GOAT right up until the end. Raises suspicion.

Kipyegon is a mega doper, anyone who comes close is suspicious.

I said it in the official Paris thread. I like Hull. She is a gritty racer who always sticks her nose in it. But this is the most suspicious performance of the day. If you believe it is legit, that is fine. But I don't believe it.

To answer the other poster question. She was part of NOP and then with Julian at UAC. She quit UAC and moved back to AUS and appears to train without much of a formal group or pro training partners. All of which make this improvement more suspect.