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Nope, nobody cares what you think, certainly not me.
Hilarious how Verbosa slunk away silently when challenged on its math.
And is getting posts legitimately ridiculing the math stupidity in its posts removed, possibly via one of its merry band of followers.
I didn't slink away, though. I'm still here. I've been quite busy this week so I've not had time to post. Also, I haven't seen any posts from you or anyone else that have challenged any of the facts and figures I've shared in a good-faith way that IMO merit a response.
Nor have I seen any posts over the past several days that strike me as good jumping off points that I can use to provide more information, or a different and wider perspective, that I think will add more substance to the thread and thus advance the conversation in an intelligent, adult way that's truly "inclusive." By which I mean "inclusive" of the girls, women and vulnerable male children and adolescents whose human rights, safety, dignity, privacy, comfort and wellbeing are being put at risk by the male-supremacist practices and ideology you're promoting.
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Open call still outstanding for stats showing that transfolk commit more crimes than average people.
In response to the call (linked below) from 3 days ago, somebody came all blazing guns furiously bellowing out (occupying much of page 6) some prison crime stats that have little to do with the stats called for or relevant to the , and barked at me for my stats (to presumably show the null hypothesis??), but when informed of the rookie flaw in its interpretation, it said “I’m not at your beck and call buddy”, yet wrote a few more paragraphs repeating itself, and has since quietly slunk away tail-tucked, presumably either furiously trying to understand the first thing about statistics and base rate fallacies or continuing diehard in its incessant quest to prove that transfolk are fundamentally somehow morally worse than the average human — if that is not transphobia, what is?
Nope, nobody cares what you think, certainly not me.
The guy who gets in every trans sports post and responds to just about every single post individually now wants us to believe he doesn't care what someone thinks.
Open call still outstanding for stats showing that transfolk commit more crimes than average people.
In response to the call (linked below) from 3 days ago, somebody came all blazing guns furiously bellowing out (occupying much of page 6) some prison crime stats that have little to do with the stats called for or relevant to the , and barked at me for my stats (to presumably show the null hypothesis??), but when informed of the rookie flaw in its interpretation, it said “I’m not at your beck and call buddy”, yet wrote a few more paragraphs repeating itself, and has since quietly slunk away tail-tucked, presumably either furiously trying to understand the first thing about statistics and base rate fallacies or continuing diehard in its incessant quest to prove that transfolk are fundamentally somehow morally worse than the average human — if that is not transphobia, what is?
Post #163 seems to have gotten coincidentally cross-posted with 162, but there’s nothing new in 162, just a slinking back in, devoid of an understanding of statistics basics or care therefor, just like I predicted in #111.
I'm still waiting for you to share some of the statistics you have on hand showing why it's so hateful and nonsensical of me to worry about the safety of girls and women when males claiming to have trans gender identities are given access to - or simply barge in on - facilities that were meant to be female single-sex spaces like women's locker rooms, loos, barracks, spas, saunas, showers, shelters, prisons, nursing home wings, hospital wards, refuges, rape crisis centers...
Me neither. Come back when you have stats relevant to the discussion. After you understand statistics in the first place.
I don’t need or care to show any stats. The default assumption is all humans and all large groups of people are mostly good.
You're just showing that you have absolutely no idea how safeguarding works!
Most human males will grow up to be decent blokes, but some will become sex predators, pervs and violent misogynists who pose a real risk to women and girls.
Moreover, nearly all human males will grow up to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex - and most boys show a prurient interest in the bodies of girls and women years before they reach puberty of adolescence.
For these reasons, among others, in countries and cultures where women and girls have made headway in gaining equal opportunity to participate fully in life outside the home, facilities like communal restrooms, locker rooms, fitting and changing rooms, shelters, bunk houses, barracks, hospital wards, sleeping accommodations in nursing/care homes, etc. have long been segregated by sex.
For as long as female people have had our own loos, locker rooms, changing rooms, etc, the custom has been that all males stay out. The only exception is male children when they are babies or little boys under 8 - and then only when they are accompanied and watched over by their mums or other female carers.
Most blokes understand why this longstanding system of safeguarding through male exclusion from female spaces came into being. Most understand why it's necessary to keep it. Most decent blokes support this kind of safeguarding too, and participate in it willingly out of respect for women and girls, our boundaries, welfare, safekeeping and hard-won rights.
Now you and others who believe in male supremacist gender identity ideology have decided that these longstanding customs of safeguarding are old hat and should be done away with.
You say it's no longer acceptable for girls & women to have any spaces and services outside our homes that are off limits to males. You and your pals have taken it upon yourselves to decree that it's wrong and morally objectionable for girls and women to have female-only spaces and services that provide us with safety, privacy, dignity, comfort, convenience and peace of mind - and which are tailored to our bodily needs and our female-specific health concerns.
You've decided that any and all blokes who claim to "feel like" or "identify as" a girl or woman must be given carte blanche acess to all spaces and services set up for female people from which the rest of the male population is barred. Indeed, you say that the existence of female-only spaces and services that males can't get into by making gender identity claims is inhumane - and that anyone who supports female-only spaces and services is bigoted, hateful and heinous.
Have at it, mate. Thump your chest and bellow away barking out orders. The more you insist that safeguarding for the female half of the population must be done away with in order to cater to the demands of entitled males who claim to have special gender identities, the more you reveal what a misogynist you are.
The more you bang on, the more apparent it becomes to all that when you talk about "diversity and inclusion" what you really mean is "male supremacy and intrusion."
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Not for nothing but for all of the attention that the trans in Olympic HS/college sports get, I'd expect way, way higher attendance than what I see. For instance, for all of the opinions that people had about it, you'd think that Penn swimming attracts crowds of 20K per meet. Or Connecticut girls XC and T&F get crowds of 50K per meet.
Me neither. Come back when you have stats relevant to the discussion. After you understand statistics in the first place.
I don’t need or care to show any stats. The default assumption is all humans and all large groups of people are mostly good.
You're just showing that you have absolutely no idea how safeguarding works!
Most human males will grow up to be decent blokes, but some will become sex predators, pervs and violent misogynists who pose a real risk to women and girls.
Moreover, nearly all human males will grow up to be sexually attracted to the opposite sex - and most boys show a prurient interest in the bodies of girls and women years before they reach puberty of adolescence.
For these reasons, among others, in countries and cultures where women and girls have made headway in gaining equal opportunity to participate fully in life outside the home, facilities like communal restrooms, locker rooms, fitting and changing rooms, shelters, bunk houses, barracks, hospital wards, sleeping accommodations in nursing/care homes, etc. have long been segregated by sex.
For as long as female people have had our own loos, locker rooms, changing rooms, etc, the custom has been that all males stay out. The only exception is male children when they are babies or little boys under 8 - and then only when they are accompanied and watched over by their mums or other female carers.
Most blokes understand why this longstanding system of safeguarding through male exclusion from female spaces came into being. Most understand why it's necessary to keep it. Most decent blokes support this kind of safeguarding too, and participate in it willingly out of respect for women and girls, our boundaries, welfare, safekeeping and hard-won rights.
Now you and others who believe in male supremacist gender identity ideology have decided that these longstanding customs of safeguarding are old hat and should be done away with.
You say it's no longer acceptable for girls & women to have any spaces and services outside our homes that are off limits to males. You and your pals have taken it upon yourselves to decree that it's wrong and morally objectionable for girls and women to have female-only spaces and services that provide us with safety, privacy, dignity, comfort, convenience and peace of mind - and which are tailored to our bodily needs and our female-specific health concerns.
You've decided that any and all blokes who claim to "feel like" or "identify as" a girl or woman must be given carte blanche acess to all spaces and services set up for female people from which the rest of the male population is barred. Indeed, you say that the existence of female-only spaces and services that males can't get into by making gender identity claims is inhumane - and that anyone who supports female-only spaces and services is bigoted, hateful and heinous.
Have at it, mate. Thump your chest and bellow away barking out orders. The more you insist that safeguarding for the female half of the population must be done away with in order to cater to the demands of entitled males who claim to have special gender identities, the more you reveal what a misogynist you are.
The more you bang on, the more apparent it becomes to all that when you talk about "diversity and inclusion" what you really mean is "male supremacy and intrusion."
Verbosa code for “I lost the stats argument, so will go back to my comfort zone of grunting out misogyny accusations with a large number of paragraphs”.
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