Congrats Katelyn Tuohy New NCAA 5000m Women’s Record 15:03.12

45 women worldwide were faster than 15:03 in 2022. Can Tuohy be a force on the world stage? Yes. Give her a few years. I direct my comments more at the rabid Tuohy fan club types banging the "Go pro now, Katelyn!!!" than at you personally. She is clearly the best college runner right now. She also needs loads more development and the collegiate record is well off the sort of mark required to be competitive on the international stage. I liken breaking NCAA records to being the home run king of AA minor league baseball. It shows upside but let's see how that hitter fares against big league hurlers that throw harder and with nasty movement before anointing him as "The One".

I definitely don’t think she should go pro yet. It’s too soon. She’s in that awkward no-man’s-land area at the moment.

Too good for NCAA but nowhere near being good enough for the international podium. It’s got to be an odd situation for her.

45 international women faster than her 15:03? Well good for them. No NCAA woman is within 17 seconds of her right now. Awkward place for her to be.

ANY NCAA record is a big deal to break, it certainly is not minor-league baseball equivalent. It’s NCAA. If you look back on all the previous record holders (and top-10’s for that matter) in the history of the NCAA, there are some AMAZING athletes that came before Tuohy.

She is now faster than they were during their NCAA time. That’s a very big deal.

I don't think she is ready to go pro yet either, but at the same time it will not help her Oly team chances to remain at sea level all next year. Maybe she heads to altitude this summer? Every US runner that beat her on Saturday lives and trains at altitude.

Tuohy has some competition in the NCAA, it's just not quite at the same level as the pros. But there are some fast up and coming 1500m runners like Thornton Bott, Appleton, Plourde for example who could challenge her for the win. In the 3k/5k Valby, Olemomoi and others. Valby just soloed her 15:31 qualifier, who knows what she can really do in a race, when healthy. Next year Amy Bunnage will probably be in the mix for the XC top 5 finish and Cook will have been training at altitude as well.

If her goal is to compete in Paris, she needs to go pro and take a break from school after this season. She needs a year of altitude and pro training/lifestyle to put herself in a position to seriously contend for a spot on the team. If she competes in xc at NC state next season and then goes pro, it will be too late. Whether or not she really cares to optimize her chances in 2024, well that’s up to her. She clearly loves school and her team. Even though she’s done it all in xc, maybe she wants to enjoy it all one more time?

What a strange obsession you have. Get help.

which performance is better? a sophomore girl in high school running 15:37 indoors or a sophomore woman in college running 15:03 outdoors?

Third season = junior

January 2018 - 15:37

May 2023 - 15:03

5 years, 4 months

I don't think she was wearing them until more recently. She's 24. Was she really wearing them 3 years ago?

You can turn pro and not be a world beater.....that's an option too. Why does she have to turn pro and make a world's team or the Olympics immediately? Not every pro does that their first year out. I think the entitlement/expectations on Tuohy are just crazy high....she's not like Jim Ryun, or Jenny Simpson, both of them were WORLD CLASS distance runners breaking American records in their very young years.....Katelyn is not there and shouldn't be held to the same standard although she did just break a record of Simpson's.....runners have gotten faster since Jenny's time. Doesn't make Jenny less impressive, because she was doing things no one else had done before at the time (and there were no super shoes, I will not stop mentioning this because it's the truth). Just means we can't be holding Tuohy to the same standards right now, that's not fair. If you disagree with me, Tuohy was beaten by 6 pros today........Jenny was on TOP at the time.

There’s no need to ‘take a break from school’. She was an academic senior (in her 3rd year) who just graduated. She wouldn’t miss a thing. If she stays she can start a masters program or just take a couple of grad classes that she could audit. I have to agree: she needs to move on and chose one of the top pro teams…either Boulder or Flagstaff, to either chase 3:50’s or 14:40’s before Olympic trials, if she wants to join the Paris team. There’s nothing more to prove by staying and she’s potentially stunting her potential progress.

There is not such a thing as "God given" anything. Don't come here with dumb beliefs and religion. It was mercury that gave them talent? If God existed it wouldn't care. God doesn't exist, or is dead or is senile and doesn't care at all. Genetics and evolution are already a much better explanation.

May God continue to bless Katelyn Tuohy.

Her biggest challenge to win the Bowerman is that her competition in sprints, hurdles and jumps are already at world class level. Touhy although setting college marks is only at a national level. Not really Tuohy's fault, as it's more a reflection of where US distance running is vs the world. That said when Barrringer won the Bowerman, she not only ran records, but made a USA team in the steeple and competed on world stage.

The issue is that no college distance runner can run at a world class level anymore with the possible exception of the steeple chase, whereas high school and college sprinters have and still do. There is a reason for this, but it is the reality. If you cannot win the Bowerman with multiple ncaa titles and four ncaa records, then no distance runner is likely ever going to win it again. Btw, always thought Tuohy would make a heck of a steeple chaser.

Good question, they are right now basically equal. 3rd best hs 5k, 4th best collegiate 5k all conditions. Hs indoor record / NCAA outdoor record.

You could say the same about Jr 9:01 v Jr 8:35

or soph 4:33 v Jr 4:24.

Ummm, ever heard of Cole Hocker?

When is the last time a female college runner qualified in the 1500m, 3000m or 5000m? Maybe Suzy Hamilton off the top of my head.

He may have been referring to distances > 1500/mile.

If we’re considering 1500/mile, in recent times I would throw out the names of Cooper Teare, Anass Essayi (both had faster miles than Hocker), Eliud Kipsang, Yared Nuguse, Sam Tanner, Josh Kerr, & Fouad Messaoudi (all had faster 1500s than Hocker in college)

I remind you that with each consecutive post she is more and more overrated...