Australia and New Zealand go into COVID lockdown and reinstate restrictions

And I will say it: the death of a healthy 20 year old is far more tragic than the death of an 80 year old - healthy or unhealthy. We should not sacrifice the well being of most of our citizenry for the false pretext that "this not the flu". For the vast majority of young and healthy adults, that's all it is.[/quote]

Because you are an ignorant pos it also completely eludes you that the young and healthy adults who you say are not seriously affected will spread it to those who are, killing many of them. 600,000k and still counting.

Bad Wigins wrote:

All you Australians who think you're different from New Zealand, this is more proof that you're exactly the same people, except for the different indigenous population.

That's ok. We are still doing better than Americans. And NZ is in no lockdown at present and hasn't been so for over a year. Only Level 4 is a lockdown. No masks required, no social distancing, and no Covid in the community. So how are you doing?

The USA is not for you. We don’t give a f#ck what you think or what you “have time for”. Spend “your time” worrying about your own country. We will give you your opinion when we need it.

party dude wrote:

I personally know about ten people who got the covid. None where very ill. For most it was barely noticeable. One dude was not feeling well for about two weeks, but he’s back to playing sports 100%. No factor.

It’s up to the small percentage of the population that is at risk to lock themselves down. It’s also their responsibility to make better lifestyle choices so they are healthier and stronger.

It’s stupid to have the tail wagging the dog.

A civilised society cares for the weak and vulnerable - which one day may also include you and your friends. Those at risk are all around you and often wont know who they are until they become infected. Some are young like you but immune compromised and others are over 50 and still playing a significant role in society and the economy. Society isn't simply made up of you and your buddies, and you couldn't make it work by yourselves. We are all in this together.

So you say in a thread where you guys give your opinion on Australia and New Zealand. Just like you say about the US - we will ask you for your opinion when we need it. And you clearly do "give a f*ck" what I say. Moron.

This thread is a not critique of the Australian and New Zealand response to Covid, as it purports to be. It is the disease that continues to afflict this site, of Covid-denial.

I am Sam wrote:

...and again, to EnergetiClitorisEater...

You sound jealous, and in need of some action.

dum wrote:

I am Sam wrote:

...and again, to EnergetiClitorisEater...

You sound jealous, and in need of some action.

Actually, this 'lockdown' is so, 'non lockdown' that amongst the exemptions of 'strangers' visiting you are 'booty calls'. Your needs can be satisfied.

Gotta love this city

Bad Wigins wrote:

All you Australians who think you're different from New Zealand, this is more proof that you're exactly the same people, except for the different indigenous population.

How's the 2,600 Covid cases going? Do you ever post anything not stupid?

Australia has a totally different population demographic to NZ today.

Armstronglivs wrote:

And I will say it: the death of a healthy 20 year old is far more tragic than the death of an 80 year old - healthy or unhealthy. We should not sacrifice the well being of most of our citizenry for the false pretext that "this not the flu". For the vast majority of young and healthy adults, that's all it is.

Because you are an ignorant pos it also completely eludes you that the young and healthy adults who you say are not seriously affected will spread it to those who are, killing many of them. 600,000k and still counting.[/quote]

Resorting to name calling is what I expect of people like you. First, I'm in my late 50's. Secondly, you completely ignore the fact that covid (from a hospitalization and fatality rate) is exactly like the flu for the those under 50. You want to isolate the old and those with health issues? Fine. Instead, we had a disproportionate number of deaths because governors like the New York's Cuomo who forced covid patients back into nursing homes.

Lastly, the harm done to school children forced to isolate and the economic harm done to small businesses is going to a lasting impact for years to come. We are country of 340 million people. A little over 1/10 of one percent of the country has been killed by this virus. Yet, we completely shut down the economy and the school system to protect a very small vulnerable segment of society. Complete insanity.

a girl wrote:

trollism wrote:

NZ reporting 2 new infections today, and they're imposing small restrictions on a small area for a short time. (No gatherings of more than 100 people and masks worn on public transport.) Why do you people always feel the need to lie in order to prove your point, is it because you generally get away with it?

But I guess if Mississippi's vaccination rate makes you feel good about yourself, you go girl.

Why do you try to insult/berate others by referring to them as girls, you misogynist turd?

Look out. The simp is getting riled up. He’s here to save the female humans of the world.

Armstronglivs wrote:

party dude wrote:

The USA is not for you. We don’t give a f#ck what you think or what you “have time for”. Spend “your time” worrying about your own country. We will give you your opinion when we need it.

So you say in a thread where you guys give your opinion on Australia and New Zealand. Just like you say about the US - we will ask you for your opinion when we need it. And you clearly do "give a f*ck" what I say. Moron.

Hello? Do you not have the capacity to create your own running websites in your own country? Why are you here?

Furthermore you are likely using equipment from the USA to berate the USA.

Nope, a civilized society is smart and is able to make mature and wise decisions based on logic and reason and not be overwhelmed and destroyed by excessive sentimentality and superstition. You don’t let the tail wag the dog. You don’t make the cure worse than the disease. High risk people need to quarantine (if they choose to). Healthy people over 50 are not impacted by covid unless they have some special medical situation. If so, work from f#cking home. Stay home. Be afraid. Cry. Wet your pants. Whatever. Just Don’t bring down the rest of society with you.

bladerunner wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

And I will say it: the death of a healthy 20 year old is far more tragic than the death of an 80 year old - healthy or unhealthy. We should not sacrifice the well being of most of our citizenry for the false pretext that "this not the flu". For the vast majority of young and healthy adults, that's all it is.

Because you are an ignorant pos it also completely eludes you that the young and healthy adults who you say are not seriously affected will spread it to those who are, killing many of them. 600,000k and still counting.

Resorting to name calling is what I expect of people like you. First, I'm in my late 50's. Secondly, you completely ignore the fact that covid (from a hospitalization and fatality rate) is exactly like the flu for the those under 50. You want to isolate the old and those with health issues? Fine. Instead, we had a disproportionate number of deaths because governors like the New York's Cuomo who forced covid patients back into nursing homes.

Lastly, the harm done to school children forced to isolate and the economic harm done to small businesses is going to a lasting impact for years to come. We are country of 340 million people. A little over 1/10 of one percent of the country has been killed by this virus. Yet, we completely shut down the economy and the school system to protect a very small vulnerable segment of society. Complete insanity.[/quote]

Yes, you have shown what insanity it is. 4% of the world's population and over 20% of its deaths and infections. Because of thinking like yours. The US hasn't shut down its economy and the school system across the country. The response has been intermittent and patchy from state to state, and even between counties. Social distancing has been inconsistently observed in many localities and the resistance to mask wearing a badge of political affiliation for the libertarian right. If there had been a committed response, with effective national leadership - which you didn't have through 2020 - you wouldn't have incurred the losses of life you have and the economic impact it has had throughout your society. No country has treated it as just another version of the flu. It takes a peculiar form of epidemiological ignorance to ignore the best scientific and medical advice available in a first world country, as so many Americans have, to perform as poorly as you have.

Armstronglivs wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

All you Australians who think you're different from New Zealand, this is more proof that you're exactly the same people, except for the different indigenous population.

That's ok. We are still doing better than Americans. And NZ is in no lockdown at present and hasn't been so for over a year. Only Level 4 is a lockdown. No masks required, no social distancing, and no Covid in the community. So how are you doing?

I've read all your little replies and you are really starting to piss me off. It seems that you like to hand pick articles to read about how "bad" America is doing and then you praise the convict island's response to the pandemic. Here's a newsflash buddy, I got fully vaccinated OVER 2 months ago and there's no lockdowns, mask mandates, anything.. I almost forgot to mention I'm the exact opposite of a risk group and am in my 20s and over 70% of the state has been vaccinated. A 12 year old can get a Pfizer shot within a few hours here. Just curious, have even been allowed to schedule your first dose yet as a grown adult? lol. wake up

FYI: If you want to cherry pick how there's still 10,000 cases, I'd think you wouldn't be too happy to know that there's less than 5 a week where I live. Enjoy that lockdown :)

So which country has succeeded with such an approach? None. Sweden tried a version of it and it has been a disaster amongst Scandinavian countries. If anyone "brings down the rest of society" with them it is morons like you.

So I "handpick articles" on how badly America is doing? What do you think this thread has been trying to do with regard to Australia and New Zealand, who have shown none of the costs of the pandemic that the US has? I don't need an article to tell me about the US - that you have only 4% of the world's population and over 20% of deaths and infections says enough. You lead the world in the worst possible way, of total Covid deaths. In New Zealand we have had a total of 26 deaths, there is no Covid in the community, and we are not in a lockdown - and haven't been so for over a year. Vaccination is already underway but is hardly a matter of critical urgency when there is no Covid in the community, unlike yours. Because you are an ignorant jerk you describe another successful first world country, which has dealt better with the pandemic than you have because it takes it seriously, as a "convict country". If that is so, then yours is the country of slavery, Jim Crow and Derek Chauvin. And Trump.

Armstronglivs wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

The flu, another contagious disease, kills people every year that are “far younger” than those living in nursing homes. I guess we should lockdown society every single flu season.

If we don’t lockdown society in order to save the individuals who pass away due to flu complications is it because their lives don’t matter?

Covid is nothing like the flu, except to you brain-dead Covid-deniers. But those with the flu typically self-isolate by staying at home to recover when they have it, reducing its incidence. Covid spreads far far easier.

The flu, like COVID, is a contagious disease that does kill people every year. Granted, COVID kills more people but why should that matter? If every life does indeed matter and we know we can absolutely save at least some lives by locking down society every flu season then why don’t we lockdown society every flu season?

You yourself have said that a civilized society looks out for its most vulnerable and weakest members. Certainly the individuals who die of the flu every year are usually the weakest among us (although not always the case). Why did we just shrug our shoulders ever flu season and just submit that “yes, people will die of the flu this year and we could probably save some of those lives if we locked down society but it’s not worth locking down society for those few unlucky souls”

You may argue that COVID kills more people than the flu so that’s why we should lockdown. But what is the limiting factor? If we are going to stand by the argument that a civilized society should look out for its weakest members it shouldn’t really matter if the contagious illness kills a million or kills ten of those weakest members.

A civilized society solves the problem while a stupid society runs away from the problem. The United States funded and created the solution to the problem with multiple vaccines while you guys just closed your entire country and begged for a vaccine. You are petty depth gobblers who take credit for a "good" COVID response. If you use your brain for even half a second you would know that a country that has a far larger population and much larger international ties will have more problems with a virus than 2 island countries with small populations and little international visits/trade. Vaccinations aren't of a "critical urgency" on the 2 convict islands, but that changes when you wake up and realize you have to leave your paradise to work with another country. "Oh sorry, We aren't taking any Convicts right now because none of you are vaccinated". So you go live in that island paradise of yours while we use the 100s of millions of vaccines we have here.