Australia and New Zealand go into COVID lockdown and reinstate restrictions

New Zealand and Australia were one trick ponies when it came to COVID. They were able to use their relative isolation and passive population to shut their borders and repeatedly lockdown their countries. Now that they actually have to vaccinate their citizens they are failing miserably and thus remain hermit kingdoms fir the foreseeable future.

The least vaccinated state in America, Mississippi, has a vaccination rate 3.5x higher than New Zealand and 5x higher than Australia.

The rest of the world hasn't really left COVID behind. New Zealand and Australia, despite having low vaccination rates, have virtually eliminated COVID, and cases that do arise out of managed care are snuffed out quickly with effective lockdowns and contact tracing that works very well due to COVID being eliminated in the first place.

US still averages 15,000 cases of COVID a day, and is dealing with a substantial proportion of the population that refuses to be vaccinated for one reason or another. It's far from clear whether the rest of the world is "leaving COVID behind" right now.

faad wrote:

The rest of the world hasn't really left COVID behind. New Zealand and Australia, despite having low vaccination rates, have virtually eliminated COVID, and cases that do arise out of managed care are snuffed out quickly with effective lockdowns and contact tracing that works very well due to COVID being eliminated in the first place.

US still averages 15,000 cases of COVID a day, and is dealing with a substantial proportion of the population that refuses to be vaccinated for one reason or another. It's far from clear whether the rest of the world is "leaving COVID behind" right now.

Wouldn't it be more effective if NZ just vaccinated everyone? Or do they just not believe in vaccinations?

energeticlotuseater wrote:

New Zealand and Australia were one trick ponies when it came to COVID. They were able to use their relative isolation and passive population to shut their borders and repeatedly lockdown their countries. Now that they actually have to vaccinate their citizens they are failing miserably and thus remain hermit kingdoms fir the foreseeable future.

The least vaccinated state in America, Mississippi, has a vaccination rate 3.5x higher than New Zealand and 5x higher than Australia.

NZ reporting 2 new infections today, and they're imposing small restrictions on a small area for a short time. (No gatherings of more than 100 people and masks worn on public transport.) Why do you people always feel the need to lie in order to prove your point, is it because you generally get away with it?

But I guess if Mississippi's vaccination rate makes you feel good about yourself, you go girl.

These government clowns can't admit they've failed in their disgraceful response and are just initiating more PR damage control stunts to buy more public trust/votes. It looks as if Canada is in a similar boat to these idiots. No surprise. Florida and Texas, which actually care about people and human rights are laughing at these slow, full of themselves and incompetent govermment institutions.

Why do you try to insult/berate others by referring to them as girls, you misogynist turd?

a girl wrote:

Why do you try to insult/berate others by referring to them as girls, you misogynist turd?

Just a turn of phrase, don't get so upset.

Is it as bad as changing from your registered handle and pretending to be a girl? I dunno?

trollism wrote:

a girl wrote:

Why do you try to insult/berate others by referring to them as girls, you misogynist turd?

Just a turn of phrase, don't get so upset.

Is it as bad as changing from your registered handle and pretending to be a girl? I dunno?

Are you going to say that I am Hardloper next? Idiot.

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easy squares wrote:

faad wrote:

The rest of the world hasn't really left COVID behind. New Zealand and Australia, despite having low vaccination rates, have virtually eliminated COVID, and cases that do arise out of managed care are snuffed out quickly with effective lockdowns and contact tracing that works very well due to COVID being eliminated in the first place.

US still averages 15,000 cases of COVID a day, and is dealing with a substantial proportion of the population that refuses to be vaccinated for one reason or another. It's far from clear whether the rest of the world is "leaving COVID behind" right now.

Wouldn't it be more effective if NZ just vaccinated everyone? Or do they just not believe in vaccinations?

It definitely would, and they've come up short in that area for sure. It's obvious that at some point things as they are there cannot go on forever. I'm just saying that attempting to cast NZ and Australia as examples to avoid when dealing with COVID, as the OP seems to be doing, is laughable (the claim that they constantly implement lockdowns is false; both countries have underwent multiple periods of time lasting months without any community spread whatsoever; and where there were cases in the community emerging, the restrictions/lockdowns implemented quickly snuffed them out.)

easy squares wrote:

faad wrote:

The rest of the world hasn't really left COVID behind. New Zealand and Australia, despite having low vaccination rates, have virtually eliminated COVID, and cases that do arise out of managed care are snuffed out quickly with effective lockdowns and contact tracing that works very well due to COVID being eliminated in the first place.

US still averages 15,000 cases of COVID a day, and is dealing with a substantial proportion of the population that refuses to be vaccinated for one reason or another. It's far from clear whether the rest of the world is "leaving COVID behind" right now.

Wouldn't it be more effective if NZ just vaccinated everyone? Or do they just not believe in vaccinations?

I can't speak to the situation in Australia, but my son and his family have been living in NZ for several years. Because of their excellent early response and ability to shut their borders as an island nation, they have virtually eliminated COVID there and been able to carry on nearly normally, other than stopping their tourism industry. As soon as it was approved, the government ordered enough Pfizer vaccine to vaccinate the entire population. NZ essentially agreed to go to the back of the line for delivery of vaccine because they had the outbreak so well controlled in their country. Pfizer's major shipments of vaccine to NZ are supposed to commence in July, and they expect to have nearly all of the population vaccinated by Oct/Nov. They are anxious to reopen their tourism industry, and to allow non-citizen seasonal agricultural workers to return as soon as possible.

The New Zealand and Australia vaccination effort has been among if the worst, if not the absolute worst in the developed world. But COVID nationalism is very high in both New Zealand and Australia so most citizens of both those countries go around congratulating themselves on how great they handled COVID (read Facebook comments regarding COVID out of New Zealand especially- the self congratulations is nauseating).

However, at the rate these two countries, Australia especially, are getting vaccinating and the lack of natural immunity due to the isolating of themselves from the world over the past year+ Means it wouldn’t be shocking that in June 2022 both countries are still locking down due to COVID.

To continue to argue that New Zealand and Australia should be some kind of model of how to handle COVID when they are locking down or partially locking down their capital cities again is laughable. All of this is before we even get into the obvious geographic differences between New Zealand, Australia and the US, EU.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

The New Zealand and Australia vaccination effort has been among if the worst, if not the absolute worst in the developed world. But COVID nationalism is very high in both New Zealand and Australia so most citizens of both those countries go around congratulating themselves on how great they handled COVID (read Facebook comments regarding COVID out of New Zealand especially- the self congratulations is nauseating).

You know you're calling a small area being asked to wear masks on public transport 'a lockdown'.

Why be so dishonest?

Crikey

Covid is over bro. If you get it, just dont die. its not hard.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

The New Zealand and Australia vaccination effort has been among if the worst, if not the absolute worst in the developed world....

Your fact-free analysis is simply wrong. NZ intelligently used its available limited vaccine supplies to vaccinate its workers exposed international travel (mainly airlines and air freight) and its healthcare first responders. It has the same sensible plan as other developed nations of proceeding to then vaccinate the general populace starting with those most at risk of adverse health consequences and proceeding through to those least at risk. The fact that the country graciously agreed to allow other more COVID-ravaged countries to receive vaccines before them hardly makes their vaccination effort one of the worst.

trollism wrote:

energeticlotuseater wrote:

The New Zealand and Australia vaccination effort has been among if the worst, if not the absolute worst in the developed world. But COVID nationalism is very high in both New Zealand and Australia so most citizens of both those countries go around congratulating themselves on how great they handled COVID (read Facebook comments regarding COVID out of New Zealand especially- the self congratulations is nauseating).

You know you're calling a small area being asked to wear masks on public transport 'a lockdown'.

Why be so dishonest?

In NZ from the article-

“Under New Zealand’s alert level two conditions, gatherings are limited to fewer than 100 people, social distancing must be observed in public places, and masks are compulsory on public transportation”

Wellington, where the lockdown is taking place, is the 9th largest region of NZ encompassing over 10% of the total population of the country. It’ll be like imposing a lockdown on California in the USA.

In Australia from Article-

“The areas of Sydney to be locked down midnight are Woollahra, Waverley, Randwick and City of Sydney, all in the center of the metropolis. The four reasons to leave are shopping for essential goods, medical care or compassionate needs, outdoor exercise, and essential work or education that can’t be done

from home.”

Also

“Australia’s so-called “Covid-zero” strategy is under increasing strain, with an outbreak of the delta variant forcing at least half-a-million residents of Sydney into lockdown for a week.”

Sydney is the largest city in Australia.

Since these governments and the fake news allegedly care about peoples health, why don't they spread awareness and make more effort to fight things such as poverty, world hunger, child salve labor, lack of basic human rights in 2nd/3rd world nations? The answer is they put on a front and only truly care about their power/control/ratings/profit. Their act of caring about peoples health is all part of their grooming and manipulsation tactics which are ultimately predicated on achieving their sick and twisted agenda.

energeticlotuseater wrote:

“Under New Zealand’s alert level two conditions, gatherings are limited to fewer than 100 people, social distancing must be observed in public places, and masks are compulsory on public transportation”

Wellington, where the lockdown is taking place, is the 9th largest region of NZ encompassing over 10% of the total population of the country. It’ll be like imposing a lockdown on California in the USA.

So basically you're calling 'no gatherings of more than 100 people' a lockdown?

You seem particularly bitter about New Zealand. What is it about that country that upsets you that much? Do you have nightmares about that Armstrong guy or something?