SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT!!! - Shelby Houlihan is running in the Olympic Trials! (Yes, Really)

The Armstrong story was so long and twisted and he 'retired' and came back. Each episode in that saga had twists and turns and sycophants and skeptics all along the way.

Had many, many arguments before he admitted where people would give you gospel and verse how he never doped, never would dope, couldnt possibly have doped, regardless of data, previously failed tests, after the fact 'prescriptions' -- none of it penetrated. It was 'lance is just a superior athlete to a whole group of people that they also acknowledged were doping. Hey, he was so good he was beating dopers, thats how godlike this guy became for some.

woah woah emma and colleen have not said a SINGLE thing or even liked anything on twitter don’t twist them up in this

This just in: USATF is making an exception and is letting a Kenyan athlete, Asbel Kiprop, compete in the 2021 US Olympic track trials. He is still in the process of appealing his ban and has been granted entry into the US trials because of the negligence of the Kenyan committee to not let him compete in his own country.

Yea, haven't seen anything from Emma Coburn or Colleen Quigley yet. Haven't seen anything from Elle Purrier St. Pierre either, who is likely to be Shelby's top competitor.

On a side note, I hope Elle beats the tar off Shelby.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

I stand corrected:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com/olympics/story/_/id/31652538/shelby-houlihan-allowed-run-us-track-trials-doping-appeal-pending%3fplatform=amp

Makes no sense to me. She will not be running in Tokyo. It will be an unpleasant experience for her as maybe half the people there will be disgusted by her being allowed to run

The article states: "Given there is an active appeal process, USATF will allow any athletes to continue competing until the process is completed,"

What active appeal are they referencing?

runderun wrote:

The US Olympic Trials should be one of the greatest T&F events on the planet. Some events will be stronger than the Olympic final. This ruling makes the whole thing a circus. If this happens, US athletes and US authorities have no moral authority to pass judgement on dopers from other countries.

I feel really sorry for everyone at the trials, especially in the women's 1500, the event will be forever tainted.

Good on the athletes calling this out: Molly Seidel, Molly Huddle, Des Linden - there's your role models

What did Molly say?

And nothing from Gwen on Instagram, which is very interesting. All of the other BTC athletes have come out in support.

bkrunner wrote:

runderun wrote:

The US Olympic Trials should be one of the greatest T&F events on the planet. Some events will be stronger than the Olympic final. This ruling makes the whole thing a circus. If this happens, US athletes and US authorities have no moral authority to pass judgement on dopers from other countries.

I feel really sorry for everyone at the trials, especially in the women's 1500, the event will be forever tainted.

Good on the athletes calling this out: Molly Seidel, Molly Huddle, Des Linden - there's your role models

What did Molly say?

Des Linden and Molly Huddle reacted incredulously on twitter to the news that Houlihan is being allowed to run. Molly Seidel liked a post praising punishing dopers.

jcaban wrote:

And nothing from Gwen on Instagram, which is very interesting. All of the other BTC athletes have come out in support.

Makes me respect Gwen even more than I already did. She has an excellent reputation in the triathlon community. I'm glad she has stayed silent, and I hope she makes the team.

pathfinder wrote:

4L wrote:

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I don't think that USATF is LETTING Houlihan run. I think they are being legally FORCED to let Houlihan run.

I don’t think USATF is under jurisdiction to be “forced” to do anything. Houlihan does not have a right to compete. USATF can deny entry to anyone, even though they meet criteria- they just don’t do it because there’s no reason to. However this is different.

Has anyone seen any USATF policies regarding this particular scenario (running while appealing)? Is this a brand new thing?

Also, if USATF were being legally forced to let Houlihan run, would there not be an indication of that somewhere in their statement? It seems like they would want to hint that they were being forced. Of course, if Nike holds that much sway over USATF, well, then all bets are off.[/quote]

All major American sports leagues allow players who were served a banning notice, are allowed to continue competing until their appeal was heard and upheld or denied.

I'm not quite sure how this case is any different. I'd be happy to learn why she is not entitled to due process. Again, I'm not taking anyone's side. I have no dog in this fight. And I want to see justice served. If your guilty your guilt. If your not your not.

I don't understand what is going on and why all of a sudden this changed when this hasn't ever happened before??

Huddle must have taken her post down.

Love that Des is willing to just say it, though.

HappyJack wrote:

pathfinder wrote:

I don’t think USATF is under jurisdiction to be “forced” to do anything. Houlihan does not have a right to compete. USATF can deny entry to anyone, even though they meet criteria- they just don’t do it because there’s no reason to. However this is different.

Has anyone seen any USATF policies regarding this particular scenario (running while appealing)? Is this a brand new thing?

Also, if USATF were being legally forced to let Houlihan run, would there not be an indication of that somewhere in their statement? It seems like they would want to hint that they were being forced. Of course, if Nike holds that much sway over USATF, well, then all bets are off.

All major American sports leagues allow players who were served a banning notice, are allowed to continue competing until their appeal was heard and upheld or denied.

I'm not quite sure how this case is any different. I'd be happy to learn why she is not entitled to due process. Again, I'm not taking anyone's side. I have no dog in this fight. And I want to see justice served. If your guilty your guilt. If your not your not.[/quote]

Yes, but in other American sports leagues, those appeals are held relatively rapidly. During playoffs or championship events, the appeal process is instantaneous as they do not want an athlete competing under appeal.

birdbeard2 wrote:

Huddle must have taken her post down.

Love that Des is willing to just say it, though.

Molly Huddle's post is a reply to another post. You won't find it on her feed.

Not quite - Gwen Jorgensen has commented on other posts (like Shayla Houlihan's posts) clearly in support.

Molly's post:

https://twitter.com/mollyhuddle/status/1405510533705515010?s=21

Des' post:

https://twitter.com/des_linden/status/1405579333775855616?s=20

Gwen and Emma have liked other posts on Instagram showing support for Shelby. Their silence is deafening but their clicking of the heart button speaks VOLUMES.

This is a terrible mistake by USATF.

gretchen weiners wrote:

Gwen and Emma have liked other posts on Instagram showing support for Shelby. Their silence is deafening but their clicking of the heart button speaks VOLUMES.

Got it