Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Flagpole wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

I think Mr Billy boy Clinton has that dubious honor.

He is second more than likely, but Trump has won this contest easily.

I think not. How sick is Billy boy to be is using ML as his personal humidor?

Trump's the lowest? Are you mad, man? I would refer you to my recent post to FP.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

I'll trade the truth about Trump, with the truth about the items below. We will see who comes out on the losing end:

1.) A Comey investigation, the FBI dossier and how it was financed in attempting to swing the election to HRC.

2.) The former DNC chair's claims that HRC took over the DNC, and pretty much torpedoed Bernie Sanders out of the nomination.

3.) An HRC investigation into how the Russia nuclear deal actually got done, and the 'quid pro quo" that Billy boy received for his worthless speeches in Russia.

4.) The "stacking of the deck" in the Mueller team with HRC butt boys that can't seem to have enough brains to keep quiet about their contempt of the President in texts. Any bias there in the investigation do you think???

1) It's not the "FBI Dossier", it is the Steele Dossier, and it is clear now that this isn't even what kicked off the FBI's interest in possible illegal activity by the Trump campaign.

2) Definitely a tad underhanded, but as Bernie is an independent and not a Democrat, Democrats are allowed to try to get Democrats elected. So, while overall I am not a fan of what was done to help Hillary and harm Bernie, it is peanuts compared to what Trump has done.

3) You did not write a complete sentence here, so I can only assume what you meant, but for the millionth time, if any Democrat is found guilty of a crime, then so be it. I am all for it. Trump was a Democrat for most of his life, and if he had been elected as a Democrat and did all the things he has done, I would be just as against him.

4) The two people who were clearly very biased were removed by Mueller as soon as he found out about it. Also, there is a difference between being biased and doing something illegal to sway an investigation. Finally, Mueller is a Republican. Christopher Wray is a Republican. Rosenstein is a Republican. Historically, MOST people who work for the FBI have been Republicans. You can't find any organization that doesn't have people in it who don't have political leanings. Mueller is a Republican, and I trust him. This is a fact-based investigation, not an emotional one. Facts are facts. Are you saying that there is bias so that someone will make up facts? That is just a bogus stance if so.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Night observer wrote:

Flagpole,

That was a very incisive and powerful post. On the one hand I want to give you props for your thoroughly demolishing the pro Trump posts, but this is more than a your side competing with our side game.

What you so accurately explained was and is an ongoing attack on our democracy.

It's not just a game to win points. Your post should be more widely published to wake more people up so they fully understand what is at risk here.

I hope you share your persuasive thoughts with a much greater audience than the letsrun readership.

(If someone accuses me of being a flagpole fanboy, they would be right.......that was a quality post)

I appreciate the props, brother. I would say that I'm not trying to be persuasive. I am simply looking at facts and laying them out appropriately. If that persuades someone to change their mind, then that just means they were ignorant on the facts and now that they see them, they have come to the correct conclusion.

You are correct that this who issue is an attack on our democracy. Trump has attacked our democracy, and that should not be allowed to continue unchallenged.

There goes Steve Bannon with another attempt at autofellatio. He'll get there one day. Go Steve, go!

This is a power play. We'll slowly start to see that this isn't the party of Trump, it's just a party of lunatics whose opinions practically change with the breeze. A lot of Trump supporters hate Kushner (not because he's Jewish, oh no, certainly not that) and they don't really care about any of the Trump kids except Ivanka, who they like too google and oogle. Bannon is clearly banking on them being just stupid enough to believe that throwing Trump's family under the bus isn't the same as throwing Trump himself under the bus, and he must be extremely confident that Jared and Junior are up to their eyeballs in sh*t.

He's offering Trump supporters a lifeboat in the form of his potential 2020 candidacy, just like the Tea Party offered an out for all of the disillusioned Bush supporters back in the day. "I never liked the tweeting, I was just more of a general Breitbart follower. Bannon's my guy! It was always Bannon!"

All of this clearly calls for an investigation into Hillary Clinton's behavior as Secretary of State.

The Constitution says that to be President, you must be American born.

Trump went after Obama claiming he wasn't American born.

But the Constitution also says that the President must be at least 35 years old.

Clearly Trump is not older than 12.

Not gonna happen. Sorry for your loss.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Still grasping at straws I see. So social media got trump elected. Newsflash............the "basket of deplorables", likely isn't on social media all that much. Also, have the Democrats never resorted to a smear campaign to knock someone out of an election? Does that despicable character Harry Reid come to mind what he smeared Mitt Romney with lies? Happens on both sides my friend. Wise up. Wake up. HRC lost. Get over it. Wipe those tears away. Get some therapy.

1) Sorry, but today pretty much everyone is on social media.'

2) I have never said Democrats haven't done things they shouldn't. That is deflection though and has no bearing on whether this president has done anything wrong.

3) Did social media get Trump elected? By itself, no. Of course it had a hand in it though. But, even if it didn't, and even if it was determined that what Russia did with social media had the opposite desired effect, that STILL would not absolve them and any possible conspirators of guilt. If someone tries to hire a hitman to kill a spouse, they are still guilty of a crime even if it is foiled. Conspiring with a foreign country, especially with an enemy foreign country to throw an election a certain way undermines our democracy. it is not right and should not stand. Country over Party, brother.

4) You wish this had to do with me being upset that Hillary lost. Had she won, I believe we would be embroiled in some investigations or at least serious questions about her. I have no delusions. But, the problem at hand is the Orange person in the White House, and I maintain he is way worse than Hillary but that that comparison doesn't matter anyway. HE is the President, and we need to get to the bottom of not only whether he colluded with the Russians to get elected but if he is in a financial situation that allows for blackmail or other influence by Russia. All indicators are that there is something there. I am after the truth. You should be too.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

1) I have clearly and accurately laid out how Russian "ads" (they were also tons of memes and other freebie things that were saturating the target states) have affected the election. You stating that none of that affected the election is not providing any "logic". I don't remember the post you mention, but I don't doubt that it was simple as you stated.

2) Barack Obama had 18 lies that were confirmed in his 8 years in office. Earlier it was reported that Trump lied an average of 5.5 times a day, but he slowed it down a tad in December (mostly because he was on the golf course) so that his 2017 total was an average of 5.34 times a day. Just no comparison to be made here. Trump is the biggest liar ever in the White House...BY FAR.

3) Yes. I have said (and continue to believe) that Trump will not finish his first term. I have never disputed that, so I'm unclear why you feel a need to note that there are many posts that say that from me. Could I be wrong? Sure. Somehow you think that would bother me. Well, to be fair, it WILL bother me, but not on a personal basis. I will be concerned about the security of our nation and the influence that a foreign enemy nation has over the US. I don't have a fragile ego, so I can handle being wrong. If the investigation takes longer so that we can ultimately get to the truth, then fine by me. I have ALSO said that if it does go longer than his first term that he won't be re-elected. Democrats, independents, and many Republicans are just too turned off by him to vote for him again. Some say his base has only slipped 3%. Well, he needs that 3%.

4) If Hillary is found guilty of something, then GREAT! No one is above the law. Get anyone and everyone.

5) Honestly, I don't remember a previous post of yours. If it was anything like this current one that I am responding too, then I can see why...you aren't very memorable and haven't laid out any logic that I can see. Keep trying though. I'm rooting for you!

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Flagpole wrote:

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Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Does that prediction come with the Flagpole 100% guarantee?

Hey Gary:

https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/election?p0=263&iso=20181106T12&msg=2018%20Midterm%20Elections

Dude, I have already put you on notice that I would not respond to you if you kept posting insane things, and even though what you just posted is insane, I have no work to do today, and I feel like responding, so I will.

1) Obama actually DID do something. He kicked Russian diplomats out of the country, told Putin to cut it out, and imposed sanctions on Russia. What are you even talking about?

2) Dude, your ignorance about what the intelligence agencies have done to KNOW that Russia interfered in our election says just what you know and don't know. This has been widely reported. Go read up about it. Education is the key to understanding, brother. It is not made up, partisan, or fake.

3) The Steele Dossier was not the thing that sparked the investigation into Trump and his campaign. It was originally paid for by Republican opposition to Trump (because there are some smart ones out there who saw how bad a guy he is), and then supposedly Hillary's team took it over after Trump got the nomination and those Republicans felt defeated. If someone determines that this happened and is illegal and that Hillary and her team needs to be punished, then GREAT! I am after truth and justice...no one is above the law. BUT, your argument that Hillary did bad things too does NOT absolve Trump of any crimes. You and your Trumper friends need to get that through your skulls.

4) Your two "nonsense" responses would need more clarification. First, go prove I have lied about anything, and second, what I say about the specific targeting of social media ads and memes is true. This has been investigated and found to be true. You don't want to believe our intelligence agencies, but you are willing to believe Trump, who bends over backwards to support Putin. Nice.

5) Dude, the STORY is whether Trump and his campaign colluded with Russia to defeat Hillary Clinton. There is no other half of the story being left out. HE is the President. His actions are the most important by far. Hillary Clinton is currently a citizen. Even if anything she did was at the same level of Trump, his actions would STILL be the most important because he is the President and she is not.

6) Democrats are far from dumb. Things that Trump is accused of and likely to have done, are FAR worse than anything Hillary has been charged with. HUGE evidence on Trump that supports collusion, obstruction of justice and money laundering. Why should this be a Democrat vs. Republican thing anyway? Truth and justice is all that should matter, and it IS all that matters to me. If Hillary did something illegal, then I HOPE she pays for it.

I was just in the mood to respond to you, but just know that if you continue to post such drivel, there is a great chance I won't respond. I DO have work to do on some days...today is just a light day for me as many of my clients are still on vacation (or on holiday as some of them say).

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

DiscoGary wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

...

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Does that prediction come with the Flagpole 100% guarantee?

If and when I guarantee something, I will make that clear to you.

For now, you get:

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

The only people I know on social media (IE twitter, Instagram, and other worthless sites) are my stepdaughter and her pinhead friends. I'm an old SOB so the only one I frequent to any degree is Lets Run, as I was once a runner (go figure). I do know some that are on Facebook but not many. My suspicion is that the percent on these stupid sites are most probably people under 40, those without jobs, or people sharing recipes. I will do some research and see what I find, in any event. I also think that the "basket of deplorables" that got Trump elected get their social media information from the news thats reported not the actual platform itself. I don't see a coal miner, steel worker or even an MD or Lawyer getting their information from these sites or being swayed by them. Sure, any country messing around in another country's election is wrong, however they all do it. We did it many times. But to think that Trump actually colluded with Putin to throw the election his way, and Putin bought it is a stretch at best. These no evidence, nor will any be presented. Had their been, this would be wrapped up by now. The best they will do is get a few to admit they lied to the FBI about things that we're illegal to begin with, or for financial dealings outside the scope of the investigation itself. Drag a net through ANY campaign or Administration, and thats what you'll find. Collusion with Russia? I don't think so.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

He is second more than likely, but Trump has won this contest easily.

I think not. How sick is Billy boy to be is using ML as his personal humidor?

So what pray tell has trump done that even remotely compares to this?

There is a distinction between "the Russian government preferred Trump to Hillary and acted accordingly" and "Trump worked with the Russian government to manipulate vote totals". I believe the former, not the latter. Some people are desperate to believe that the election was not fair, and that somehow a Russian guy telling you lies about HRC is appreciably different from an American guy telling you lies about HRC. However, it's not right for a campaign or its surrogates to exchange information with foreign nationals. While that doesn't mean the president should be impeached, this knowledge should be public because it demonstrates that the campaign is willing to break the law and also side with foreign nationals against American interests.

Flagpole wrote:

DiscoGary wrote:

Does that prediction come with the Flagpole 100% guarantee?

If and when I guarantee something, I will make that clear to you.

For now, you get:

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

The only thing you have made clear on this site is that your judgement is clouded by political partisanship. You only see the things which support your desired outcome, and ignore anything that challenges your conclusions. This makes your analysis and your conclusions worthless.

The fact that no "smoking gun" has been leaked is enough to know that there never will be one.

A sober analysis of real world events would reveal that Mueller's entire team is made up of corrupt political hacks and that the investigators themselves are likely to find themselves under siege. The deep-state bureaucracy can only function in the darkness... and this Trump investigation is shining light on their nefarious activities. Trump may survive this persecution and in the process undo the weaponization of political institutions in DC that occurred under Obama and Hillary. If that happened it would be one of the greatest gifts Trump could give to the American people.