Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

This past weekend there was one relative who was an outspoken trump fan. I swear she was the only one in a group of about 12 people. She did worship trump. Everyone thought she was a loser. All she talked about was the stock market. Ironically she doesn't have that much money and out of all of us, she is the least likely to have money in themarket.

The Trump supporters are a strange breed.

PIO! wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

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Interesting article, below:

https://hbr.org/2016/11/what-so-many-people-dont-get-about-the-u-s-working-class

IMHO this ^ is actually worth a read.

I don't generally agree with either of you in this thread, but this article was very good. It's a year old, but still relevant and makes a number of good points. In particular, it refutes the notion that "everyone who voted for Trump is a racist/sexist".

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

Your tirades are getting tiresome. Mueller is NOT coming. HRC lost. Grow half a sac and go wipe your crocodile tears. The 'clown (Flagpole)" is done.

1) Not a tirade...just the truth.

2) No tears.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Well........ wrote:

This past weekend there was one relative who was an outspoken trump fan. I swear she was the only one in a group of about 12 people. She did worship trump. Everyone thought she was a loser. All she talked about was the stock market. Ironically she doesn't have that much money and out of all of us, she is the least likely to have money in themarket.

The Trump supporters are a strange breed.

This is not surprising. LOTS of people who don't have money in the stock market will talk about how great it is when it is doing well, believing that that is indicative of the economy as a whole. They will especially do this when their person is in office. What is also beyond ridiculous is that the market has been on a tear since March 2009. I made more money, both in total and as a percentage growth during Obama's presidency than in any other. Doing well so far in Trump's presidency too, but we'll see if we get 8 years of steady growth there or not (he won't be around for 8 years though). Of course, the President has very little effect on the market over time.

Those who continue to support Trump are definitely a strange breed. Their intelligence must be called into question. There were legitimate reasons (though I maintain still that it was rationalization for bad behavior) for supporting him as a candidate, but we have now seen after almost a year that he is chaos personified, he is hardly working at all (at the golf course at RECORD pace after saying he wouldn't have time to play golf), and he is rightfully under investigation due to his behavior after being elected (which will prove his bad behavior before being elected). Beyond that, the lies are incredible. He lies about absolutely everything, so why should anyone believe him when he says there was no collusion with Russia?

Count Chocula wrote:

I don't generally agree with either of you in this thread, but this article was very good. It's a year old, but still relevant and makes a number of good points. In particular, it refutes the notion that "everyone who voted for Trump is a racist/sexist".

There were legitimate reasons to want to vote for Trump, and I will agree that not everyone who did so is racist or sexist. The Democrats put up a flawed candidate, and many of those who voted for Trump simply couldn't get themselves to vote for Hillary. I get that, and I also get that the Democratic party has failed the working class in recent years.

BUT, we have an even clearer picture of the Orange one today than we did on election day, and even if you were able to overlook the 19 women who have charged him with sexual misconduct, after his stance on white supremacists and those who oppose them and his backing of a clear racist (Roy Moore), if you still support this obviously racist man, then you must also be racist. You could delude yourself into thinking that all people are racist to some degree (something I dismiss), but Trump is clearly over the line to the high end of any racist scale.

Trump is a narcissist. He is amoral. He is a misogynist and sexist. He is dumb. He lives in an alternate reality that is supported by yes men who surround him. He is a criminal. He is a liar of epic proportions. He is a child.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Sure, but the article isn't really about Trump. It's more about why certain segments of the population voted for him. There is a difference between voting for a candidate and blindly supporting them once in office. I'm sure that some of his voters who were hoping for an economic revival are disappointed that their local economy hasn't improved much. I'm also sure that some industries and towns have experienced economic growth, and the Trump voters there are satisfied.

Whether or not Trump is fit for office is another separate question.

Sounds like someone's a little butthurt and jealous. HAHAHA

Dude, you've lost it. You're like Keith Olbermann. You're a less-manly version of Rachel Maddow. No one can take you seriously at this point. You're a lunatic.

And DONALD J TRUMP is STILL POTUS45.

And Flagpole WILL BELOW HIS BRAINS OUT OVER POTUS45!!

But Flaggy- Will you please do it on Facebook Live? That'd be a great final Flagpole from you.

Count Chocula wrote:

Sure, but the article isn't really about Trump. It's more about why certain segments of the population voted for him. There is a difference between voting for a candidate and blindly supporting them once in office. I'm sure that some of his voters who were hoping for an economic revival are disappointed that their local economy hasn't improved much. I'm also sure that some industries and towns have experienced economic growth, and the Trump voters there are satisfied.

Whether or not Trump is fit for office is another separate question.

1) I am aware the article wasn't about him which is why I started talking about the people who voted for him.

2) I then took that forward to today to say that while initially I could go with the fact that not everyone who voted for him was racist, but anyone who still does is clearly so.

3) Anyone in 2016 who felt the economy was bad and was hoping for more should have just played the lottery, because the economy was already good. There is not more opportunity for those who felt left out in 2016 today than there was then.

4) His fitness is a separate issue...just one that I brought up, because ANY post that tries to legitimize him in any way will be met with that. We can look back and recognize electing him as a mistake, but we can not through the lens of today look back and seek to make it ok or acceptable in any way. It is no longer morally right to support Donald Trump in any way or for any reason. Those who voted for him don't need to be shamed, but they do need to recognize that they made a mistake.

I could list his lies all day, but here are two big ones for now:

1) He wasn't going to play golf.

2) Mexico was going to pay for the wall.

Trump is a narcissist. He is amoral. He is a misogynist and sexist. He is dumb. He lives in an alternate reality that is supported by yes men who surround him. He is a criminal. He is a liar of epic proportions. He is a child.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

I might define an individual that provides jobs for untold thousands of the "working class"............a "champion" of the working class. Or would you rather consider a politician who never provided a job or any other tangible benefit to anyone (other than more welfare perhaps) a champion of the working class?

What? Untold thousands? As far as anyone can tell, the guy licenses his name, that's all. Trump resort jobs are essentially working poor. The resorts import labor, excluding American citizens. Work shall set them free???

You guys need a new spook. Did Clinton do nothing at all for the State of New York as a Senator?

Count Chocula wrote:

PIO! wrote:

IMHO this ^ is actually worth a read.

I don't generally agree with either of you in this thread, but this article was very good. It's a year old, but still relevant and makes a number of good points. In particular, it refutes the notion that "everyone who voted for Trump is a racist/sexist".

You must be a truly odd individual to not generally agree with either myself or OLD SMTC SOB since OLD SMTC SOB and I are almost always on opposite sides of every issue.

pop_pop!_v2.2.1 wrote:

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

I might define an individual that provides jobs for untold thousands of the "working class"............a "champion" of the working class. Or would you rather consider a politician who never provided a job or any other tangible benefit to anyone (other than more welfare perhaps) a champion of the working class?

What? Untold thousands? As far as anyone can tell, the guy licenses his name, that's all. Trump resort jobs are essentially working poor. The resorts import labor, excluding American citizens. Work shall set them free???

You guys need a new spook. Did Clinton do nothing at all for the State of New York as a Senator?

I have no idea, nor do I care what the carpetbagger did for that liberal state, run by a liberal Governor. (Most of mid and upstate excluded). She's as corrupt as they come, a member of the "Clinton Crime Family" according to my retired FBI agent cousin, who has expressed this view for years. Trump does in fact license his name to businesses that also happen to put people to work, he also I believe owns any number of businesses that put people to work. So they import all labor? If not, what percentage? No Americans work there? Any unbiased stats on that? Also, relative to my comment above, it was not referring to HRC, although she certainly falls into that category. Could also as easily be referring to Bernie Sanders and others, both on the right and left. Personally I think Flagpole is jealous of Trump truth be told. Thus the symptoms of advanced "derangement syndrome" he is exhibiting. I don't recall this level of vitriol and hysteria (in the country and in particular on this board) from the right when Obama was in office.

Oh Trump humble servant, you just validated my previous post! Didn't I just say, "And anyone who doesn't see your greatness or who commits blasphemy by calling hypocrisy is just jealous that Hillary lost and they will be damned."

You weak servants who believe everything that Lord Trump tells you are SOOO predictable.

He tells you all the mainstream media is fake when they report the truth to you and you believe.

He tells you all the tax breaks of which mostly the rich are getting will you help and you believe.

He tells you the FBI is evil because he is being investigated and you beleive.

9-10 GOP led congressional investigations failed to mark Hillary Clinton. What do you call it? Ahhh yes... a nothing burger! Congratulations, you are a brainwashed moron.

1) Trump hires a LOT of foreign workers, both who come here to work (like at his golf clubs) and those who make his stupid ties and shirts in other countries. Yes he employs some people here in the US, but he has stiffed so many others over the years that it's a wash at best.

2) You didn't get this kind of vitriol from the right about Obama because Obama didn't deserve it to the level that Trump does. This is not about right vs. left or even whatever the new Trump Party is vs. left. It is about evil (Trump) vs. good (anyone who opposes Trump...with few exceptions). It's about crazy (Trump) vs. not crazy.

3) You are funny with thinking I am jealous of Trump. QUITE the contrary, and I have said this before...I actually feel bad for him personally because he is obviously a tortured human...tortured by his own mind and actions, not by anyone else, and I don't like to see people tortured. BUT, even though I don't like to see human suffering, we can't allow criminal behavior to go unchecked. I will get no joy out of him losing it all (which he will). I WILL find joy that we no longer are led by a crazy person. Why would I be envious of Donald Trump? I'm not as fat as he is. I am younger than he is. I have zero debt and he doesn't. I can get a loan from a US bank if I want and he can't. I am not under investigation for crimes against the United States. Every woman I have seen naked has become so willingly for me. I am smarter than he is. I am more musically talented than he is. I am a better athlete than he is. My children are smarter and more athletic and more talented than his children. There is nothing about that man that I envy. Today, I can't think of anyone outside of someone with a lifetime prison sentence that I would rather not be.

Mueller is coming.

The clown is done.

Are you OK, man? Your psycho post indicates you are not well.

EPlC Flagpole wrote:

Dude, you've lost it. You're like Keith Olbermann. You're a less-manly version of Rachel Maddow. No one can take you seriously at this point. You're a lunatic.

And DONALD J TRUMP is STILL POTUS45.

And Flagpole WILL BELOW HIS BRAINS OUT OVER POTUS45!!

But Flaggy- Will you please do it on Facebook Live? That'd be a great final Flagpole from you.

Flagpole this is awesome. You totally dominate these dimwitted plebes.

OLD SMTC SOB wrote:

I have no idea, nor do I care what the carpetbagger did for that liberal state, run by a liberal Governor. (Most of mid and upstate excluded).

You made a very specific, false claim.

New York has a GDP that sits somewhere between 10 and 20th in the world. It seems like they are doing something right? Stop making stuff up.

Here, let me help you with your false claim of Trump employing thousands:

Barback, banquet cooks, banquet server are all amazing, high paying jobs.

Why would Trump want to force workers to pool tips?? That's mighty liberal of him. What happened to self-determination?

Why can't Trump resorts hire Americans? Oh, that's right, it's far cheaper to get h2b workers.

America first??? Trump first.

Bemused wrote:

Flagpole this is awesome. You totally dominate these dimwitted plebes.

Thanks brother. I am rocking them for sure!