RE: Cheating at Marathons

Eddie Hahn wrote:

Mr. Macon has indicated he will peruse legal action against me, and I am therefor very confused.

My sincere apologies to Mr. Macon, those on this message board and any who have otherwise became aware of this thread.

I have not witnessed him cheat, and I regret if I gave anyone that impression.

Oh, oh!! We have a renewed effort at Option 2! Haven't had that since Steve-o was posting as himself back in the early days of this thread!

Don't worry Eddie, this thread is about PM, not LM. There's been discussion about starting a thread on LM, but it hasn't happened yet or at least hasn't gotten any traction if it's out there. Though if he's pulling an Option 2, it might be time to start one. Not seeing (witnessing) people do anything is a recurring question with PM.

Maybe LM, if you're reading, you could help us figure out how PM ran 3 marathons and a 23 hr 100 miler in 3 days? The ultra cheating is what people are upset about here. The whole frequent marathoning thing is a weird side story, but no one really cares here.

Options wrote:

When you're caught and cornered you have four options:

1. Try and bluff your way out of it with diversionary tactics.

2. Threaten legal action.

3. Ignore it and hope it goes away.

4. Admit it.

Take a ride or not? wrote:

Stats aside because we can analyze the heck out of stats and be right or wrong, did PM or did she not take a ride in the crew vehicle and miss running part of the course while her crew were dismissed at Badwater 135 this past summer?

Eye witnesses report she did. The Race Director reports he does't care.

Someone somewhere has to have some iPhone photos with a time stamp.

Mr. Macon,

No one has stated that they saw you cheat. What people have noted is your ability to appear in many places in quick succession. Some of the results suggest that you may have been in two places at once, but this could possibly be explained by your having permission to take an early or late start at certain events.

If you would be willing to explain what happened--how you got from Point A to Point B, and what time you started the X Marathon--this whole thing could be put to rest.

Surely you can see that your marathon record is curious. But the questions it raises surely could be answered--if you are willing.

Athlinks pages for:

L Macon:

https://www.athlinks.com/athletes/20470213/Profile

larry macon:

https://www.athlinks.com/Result/Search#

!athlete/larry%20macon

laurence macon:

https://www.athlinks.com/Result/Search#

!athlete/laurence%20macon

Looks like you'll need to copy and paste whole link to browser to access 2nd and 3rd ones.

this is whats wrong wrote:

Don't worry Eddie, this thread is about PM, not LM.

Actually, the title of the thread was "cheating at marathons" and LM was in the original post. The thread was just as much about LM as PM at the start. In fact, it was the suspicious result of LM having official results from a marathon in Idaho/Utah and San Antonio on the same day and another one up in Idaho/Utah the next day that was the first evidence of cheating presented.

The OP said that he was at the Elks Marathon all day (obviously an organizer or official) and didn't see PM running. He gave LM an out suggesting that PM might be lying about LM's results without him knowing.

The thread evolved into being almost entirely about PM, but LM was in the original post and LM was under suspicion and scrutiny from the start.

Note that I'm not saying LM did or didn't cheat, I'm just reminding you what the thread started out as.

Did the Badwater RD report he doesn't care about this issue?

Also, not sure where the part about "dismissing her crew" came out of, because the Badwater rules clearly state that a runner must have at least 2 crew on. Being her 2nd year in the race, both her and her crew captain must be familiar with this rule.

I've crewed at Badwater and had our runner ask the crew to take a break. We did not stray far from our runner, knowing that would be total stupidity as it would be leaving your runner exposed to many potential problems, especially late in the race. Besides, she reports that she only had 4 crew in 2014 with one crew vehicle so not sure how that would have taken place.

She cheated at the Keys 100. PM has no athletic ability. Zero. A 6-7 hour marathon walker cannot do a 100 mile race under 30 hours. Probably not at all! If you are an ultra runner you already know this. She is in way over her head with her cheating in ultra-land. For you SH to try and defend her with your lack of any running knowledge, experience, or credibility is shockingly embarrassing for you.

She acts like she can just throw out numbers in her our races and expect people to believe them. Same with the Keys and BW. Nobody believes she has any physical fitness or ability to complete ultras. That's why she has been seen cheating at nearly every 50 and 100 mile race in Texas. The entire state of Texas knows she cheats. The ultra runners all talk. Texas knows she is a fraud. Now the rest of the country has suddenly been introduced to her as well You think she doesn't continue to cheat out of state races now too? She has to cheat. She has no other way if finishing.

She cheated in NY. She cheated both years at BW. She cheated the Keys 100. She cheats every one of her own races. She is now getting DQ'd because it has all caught up to her.

Come on. We are far from dumb. Nobody believes for one minute this lumbering heavy running mechanic 6-7 hr walker can come close to even finishing an ultra. No way in hell. Fraud.

Go watch any video of her running. Omg.

Google her name and then go to videos. Worst running form I have ever seen for a person that claims to run and run a lot.

In her own own race report, she indicated that she sent her crew back to rest right at the time Thomas saw her test drive the minivan and race into town. But SH stayed of course. And that's when the cheating continued. SH is the accomplice here. Hubby the cheater.

Here are PMs crew. They should all be approached and questioned.

My gut tells me they know something and the last thing they want is to continue to be associated with her and this mess. And this thread.

Melody Cherry

Daniel Santos-Costa

Kevin Albert

Steve Holehan

Melody Cherry

Daniel Santos-Costa

Kevin Albert

Steve Holehan

Melody Cherry

Daniel Santos-Costa

Kevin Albert

Steve Holehan

Melody Cherry

Daniel Santos-Costa

Kevin Albert

Steve Holehan

Melody Cherry

Daniel Santos-Costa

Kevin Albert

Steve Holehan

Melody Cherry

Daniel Santos-Costa

Kevin Albert

Steve Holehan

Melody Cherry

Daniel Santos-Costa

Kevin Albert

Steve Holehan

Split 1/Mile 23: PM ranked 87/87 slowest of all finishers

Split 2/Mile 45: PM ranked 87/87 slowest of all finishers

Split 3/Mile 59: PM ranked 87/87 slowest of all finishers

Split 4/Mile 67: PM ranked 87/87 slowest of all finishers

Then the cheating had to happen or else she would have not met the time cut off. Enter SH plan to drive PM into Lone Pine. Thomas saw it. Two BW runners also report that PM never passed them from miles 91-135. Put it all together people.

Final 2 Splits Combined/Mile 122-135 (finish) PM suddenly ranked 33/87 up the final 13 miles of the course.....the course hallmark toughest climb.

WTF? Really?

Below is the best!

*****So, her final split 122-135 (toughest part of the race) she beat out the following overall finishers times: 12th place fiisher/time of 30:29, 14th place finisher/time of 30:38, 21st place finisher/time 33:07, 24th place finisher/time 34:20, 25th place finisher/time34:21. These are some of the best of the best in the world people.

Yup, PM is amazing. And world class.

Chris, how about a sequel documentary feature on her?

The continuous posting of incorrect data does not make it true. The data you are posting is from a fictional event.

Moayedi was 45 out of 87 in only one split, at checkpoint five, 75 miles into the race.

There were 97 starters and 83 finishers in Badwater 2014. PM was never the last person in any of the splits during the race.

Interesting that Accuser Thomas ran incredibly fast compared to the rest of field over the last three check points.

PM was 49/34/49 while Thomas was 42/41/32. Maybe he pointed a finger at PM so no one would look at his results too closely. Thomas must be one of the best in the world people.

This is from the runners in the race at that check point.

S1 23miles PM 96/97 DF 76/97 TZ 73/97

S2 45miles PM 96/97 DF 91/97 TZ 69/97

S3 59miles PM 92/93 DF 88/97 TZ 90/93

S4 67miles PM 75/89 DF 80/89 TZ 89/89

S5 75miles PM 45/87 DF 61/87 TZ 73/87

S6 91miles PM 76/86 DF 81/86 TZ 84/86

S7 122mile PM 49/83 DF 70/83 TZ 42/83

S8 131mile PM 34/83 DF 58/83 TZ 41/83

FN 135mile PM 49/83 DF 65/83 TZ 32/83

I calculated this from the data posted here. Please feel free to double check it.

Moayedi was 45 out of 87 in only one split.

Just asking as the OP's original post was about Cheating at Marathons: "Parvaneh Moayedi organized and "ran" the Elks Flag Day Marathon...if she faked the results from this event, then how does anyone know she doesn't fake the results from all of her own events..."has there been any progress on that yet or explanation for this sort of thing?

this is whats wrong wrote:

These are some of the best of the best in the world people.

.. there's this math stuff someone did. So no one could see her, and she suddenly got way faster.

That the "math stuff" someone did was fantasy math.

But that's OK because someone went to the trouble of figuring it out using real numbers rather than that imaginary stuff. It shows the Accuser Thomas was running higher up in the rankings than PM.

The comment that these are some of the best of the best in the world is true about Parvaneh. She is world class and a holder of two Guinness Book of World Records.

Yup, Guinness calls that Officially Amazing.

(female)

haha yeah truly amazing but doesn't make it officially amazing with those that know

amazing that see got away with it maybe

officially amazed wrote:

haha yeah truly amazing but doesn't make it officially amazing with those that know

amazing that see got away with it maybe

Are you French and English is your second language?

Or is English your first language and you are functionally illiterate?

It is tiring trying to figure what the hell you are saying.

For anyone who wants to be a spook and see that her races are for real PM has posted her Halloween Series of Marathons.

There are no time limits and PM provides course support until the last runner finishes.

Look out for the Great Pumpkin!

If she admitted to accidentally not completing the entire route at one or at most two races would that be enough for you witch hunters? Would that stop you all from showing up uninvited to her events in SA?

Boo, Pumpkin Series is next up wrote:

http://www.iranmarathons.com/

For anyone who wants to be a spook and see that her races are for real PM has posted her Halloween Series of Marathons.

There are no time limits and PM provides course support until the last runner finishes.

Look out for the Great Pumpkin!

There's no problem with anyone showing up, video taping or taking pictures. It's a public park.

Boo, Pumpkin Series is next up wrote:

Boo, Pumpkin Series is next up wrote:http://www.iranmarathons.com/

For anyone who wants to be a spook and see that her races are for real PM has posted her Halloween Series of Marathons.

There are no time limits and PM provides course support until the last runner finishes.

Look out for the Great Pumpkin!

There's no problem with anyone showing up, video taping or taking pictures. It's a public park.

Maybe she or some of the runners might break another Guinness World Record. Who knows?