Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

You're butthurt about the president.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Loser.

Flagpole wrote:

I don't want to focus too much on Trump's bad policies, because as bad as they are, that's not the horribleness that is the Orange One...his sexual assaults, his serial lying on everything including things that don't even matter, his racism, his lack of intelligence, his lack of a filter, his lack of knowledge of how things work, his praise of dictators, including ones who murder opponents, his apparent allegiance to Russia which we don't know why yet, his attempts to demean the media and the investigators, and his lying about Russia and his criminal financial behavior...that's what's really wrong with him.

Trump is done.

You're completely wrong, dude. His stupid policies are the primary problem. The ongoing tax reform push, for example, is of far, far greater consequence than Trump's financial crimes and pvssy grabbing. President Trump does not exist without decades of terrible Republican policies, politics, and propaganda. When he is gone, there will be someone similarly evil (and probably far more competent) ready to take his place and continue the push towards an authoritarian oligarchy. Trump is not the problem, Republicans are.

Use ya head, bro wrote:

Yes, they "think about sex every 15 seconds" (scientific studies).

Please post the 'scientific study' that proves this. Hint: it doesn't exist.

Use ya head, bro wrote:

Did Trump ever try to rape someone? Absolutely not.

Allegations aren't proof, but you have no idea if he's raped someone or not.

EPSTEIN, TRUMP, DERSHOWITZ: hodppeesil (word scramble)

Sigh....

Ok first off, I linked to conservative news sources to try and inject some balance and objectivity into my argument. You then linked to more conservative news sources. Do you see how one-sided that is? How it might be interpreted by some as lacking objectivity?

So the first story you linked to can be summed up as follows "news organization CNN corrects a mistake they repeatedly made earlier in the day once at the end of the day" and while this is true, bearing in mind the dailycaller story covers just one 8hr period of rolling news, it isn't what many would consider 'newsworthy'. News organization both left and right make these kinds of errors and omissions all the time and the fact that they issued a correction at all is pretty good. Plus to properly balance out this story we'd have to list all of things CNN reported in that 8hr period that they didn't get wrong.

The second story you linked to, from the same conservative news source, can be summed up as follows "CNN reports on something that sounded like it could be a story but then it turned out to be nothing". Again you'd have to be a massive pedant or have a raging conservative agenda to think that this is newsworthy content.

I have read both 'stories' just to be fair but I could have told you this just from the headlines. I'm not saying they are fake news, they're just non-stories. This thread is full of these kinds of links and no-one has time to go through each one and explain how they are cherry-picking hyperbole and evidence of nothing.

Amber Athey's entire job is picking holes in CNN's coverage while ignoring anything they report accurately. Investigative journalism at it's finest.

And why the f*ck are we even debating the accuracy, or lack there of, of one liberal news network. If you don't like it watch something else. Anyone can gather news and opinions from many sources and make up their own minds. We live in free countries and have the internet.

There are much bigger fish to fry and policies to be debated.

Runningart2004 wrote:

I totally agree.

I also think many Alabama voters, even Christians, are going to vote for Moore thinking the allegations are true, but defend their vote by saying we’ve all done in appropriate things in the past. If I were voting in Alabama I would be more worried about what he’s said about the constitution and the fact he was thrown off the Alabama Supreme Court.

We are living in a political world now where bad is good. Where least qualified is best qualified because he’s got “swagger”.

Politics has always been a cycle. Voters get tired of the most qualified candidate when they fail so they elect actors and peanut farmers and so-so governors because they have style.

Alan

I like this post, but I have two comments:

1) I think Jones MIGHT win. Probably a win for Democrats either way, but I am pulling for Jones because it is right even if a Moore win might be an albatross to Republicans.

2) To be fair to Jimmy Carter, he wasn't JUST a peanut farmer. Before being President, he was the Governor of Georgia and before that a two-term member of the Georgia State Senate.

L L wrote:

I actually agree with Sarah Sanders and Trump on the Trump accusers situation.

The public was fully aware of the accusations against Trump and he still got votes in the right places to get an electoral college majority.

That's on the voters.

The press can put all the pressure in the world on Trump and he is not going to resign because of this.

It's out of the people's hands until the next election.

Impeachment is the only option and there is no scenario where they bring impeachment proceedings based on these accusations.

But they can still shame him every day and that's fine with me.

Unfortunately this is probably right. He might have just got in under the wire of all the wave of empowerment women feel now.

The only way he is impeached over this issue is if Republicans are tired of his shenanigans and just want an excuse to do it.

But...

Mueller is coming.

Trump is done.

baitedclicker wrote:

You DON'T want to focus too much on his bad policies!!!!!!

So you'd rather focus on his personality. This is futile. Just as futile as Trump supporters attempting to equate Trump lies with Obama lies. Making it about personality in fact plays into Trumps hands.

He can't be impeached just for having toxic personality traits and linking him to serious criminal financial behaviour is going to be hard. He's been in the business of being Trump for a very long time.

I realize that these stupid posts of mine are going to get lost today in all the Alabama news.

When a crazy person is running at you with a knife, you don't stop to ask what toppings he likes on pizza. You do what you can to get rid of the crazy.

Trump has never had this kind of scrutiny over his financial dealings.

He will eventually be indicted for money laundering and fraud, conspiracy, and obstruction of justice.

Mueller is coming.

Trump is done.

Apples to Oranges wrote:

Come on man. Bill and Hillary are linked to murders. Do you actually think all of those people died without foul play? You actually believe that they weren't 2 guilty corrupt politicians who would stop at nothing? You voted for her and you justify that? Why didn't you bring those things up prior to November 8th, 2016? Oh, that's right, snopes said that all of those murders, dozens and dozens, connected to the Clintons weren't true. If you can't troll better than that LL, how do you expect to win any discussion and be taken seriously. We don't care about FP, he's a nobody and can leave the thread. You guys are butthurt because Trump won!

1) The murders are all conspiracy theorist stuff. So, yes, I don't believe the Clintons have gotten away with murder. Would be quite a thing to get away with that. Harder to get away with murder than financial crimes, and Trump will be caught with that.

2) Can't ride on the coattails of an election win forever, my brother. Presidents have to produce. New information comes to light.

Mueller is coming.

Trump is done.

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

You're completely wrong, dude. His stupid policies are the primary problem. The ongoing tax reform push, for example, is of far, far greater consequence than Trump's financial crimes and pvssy grabbing. President Trump does not exist without decades of terrible Republican policies, politics, and propaganda. When he is gone, there will be someone similarly evil (and probably far more competent) ready to take his place and continue the push towards an authoritarian oligarchy. Trump is not the problem, Republicans are.

I don't like the policies at all, but his financial crimes, likely conspiracy and pvssy grabbing are way worse for two reasons:

1) Shows what a horrible human being he is, and we don't need a horrible human being leading the free world...gives rise to other horrible behavior on all levels of government and in society in general.

2) Puts him at risk of being blackmailed by foreign entities as he obviously is by Russia. We don't need a President who makes policy that is favorable to a foreign power simply because it has a pee pee tape or evidence of financial crimes. THAT kind of policy is very dangerous and not run of the mill policy change.

Flagpole wrote:

But...

Mueller is coming.

Well, that's the thing.

Trump not only does things that are immoral and unethical, he may have done some things that are illegal.

And possibly did them before the election, during the transition and as president.

Sex crimes, financial crimes and political crimes oh my!

When he has to step down it will be the most glorious of fits.

He won't go down with humility. It will be kicking and screaming.

He will have that Saddam Hussein look when they fitted the noose around his neck.

The murders are FACT. Ask the mother of the 2 boys killed on the railroad tracks and Clintons involvement. The Medical Examiner Malak, Clinton's buddy, came to the conclusion that the 2 boys died accidentally. Somehow he missed the obvious, why???

He resigned right before Clinton began his first campaign for President. Yeah, that's a coincidence (rolling eyes).

Sheriff Steed sent the boys clothes to the ASCL, NOT the FBI like was suppose to do and had done in other cases...why? Because of his involvement in the case, he was NOT re-elected.

Yeah, you're right. Total conspiracy theorist stuff. 34 people died suspiciously who had ties to the Clintons.

If that were Trump, you'd say it was fact. Where there's smoke there's fire. Look at the evidence.

Glad you came back, we knew you couldn't stay away as the truth really gets to you and forces you to spew your lies.

Trump will continue on. Your side has huge indictments coming. Mueller? Ha, ha, ha!!!!! Obama got away with more lies and his race saved him and the morons like you who voted for him.

Do you sleep at night knowing that 1/2 the people in the country are smarter than you?

OK

The Clintons got away with murder.

So?

1) Good to know that the mother of two boys killed knows for a fact that a Clinton did it. Sorry, but the Clintons are not guilty of murder.

2) Actually, I haven't declared anything against Trump as fact yet (that he is being investigated for). I have said several times that while I believe he conspired with Russia that I will let Mueller determine before I declare it as fact. I BELIEVE Trump when he said he groped women and walked in on them when they were dressing, not because I automatically believe him, but because women have corroborated. He IS guilty of financial crimes, already proven in courts of law, so I am right to call him a criminal. I believe he also WILL be found guilty of other financial crimes we don't yet know about, but I won't say he's guilty of that until there is a conviction. So, you are wrong that I would say Trump was guilty of murder if he and the Clintons switched places. I don't blindly follow party. I follow reason, logic, common sense, and evidence.

3) I never promised I was going away. In fact, this is what I wrote - "I am probably going to have to just read mostly in this thread and post little." Operative word there, "probably". I will admit that the topic is too interesting to resist. I won't debate crazy more than once perhaps though...so don't expect too many responses from me to you if you continue with this crazy tin foil hat stance.

4) Indictments on "my side"? You don't understand how reasonable people think if you believe I have a political side with regard to indictments. My side is the side of truth and the side of justice. If Democrats (Hillary, Obama, Bill, whomever) get caught up in this investigation and are indicted for wrongdoing, then I say GREAT! Law breakers need to be dealt with.

5) You are simply wrong about Obama, and you show your racism mentioning his race. Know that about yourself.

6) Far fewer than half the people in the US are smarter than I am. I know that because I know what my IQ is, having been asked by the state of Ohio to have it tested when I was a child, and how I performed in school, college, and graduate school. BUT, what you are inferring is that the half that is smarter than me is the "half" that voted for Trump. Well, hate to break it to you, but fewer than half the voters voted for Trump.

Mueller is coming.

Trump is done.

L L wrote:

OK

The Clintons got away with murder.

So?

Yeah, this is really the question. Doesn't matter if they did or not. Neither of them is the President at this time. Again, it doesn't matter if they killed all those people, abused the corpses and then ate them...that has nothing to do with the horribleness of Trump or the immediate danger he poses to America and the world.

This has all been debunked many many times over. Check the citations, don't just read the text:

Learn to distinguish fact from fiction.

Peace

ah, accusing a sitting US senator of soliciting prostitution. All in a day's work for the least popular president ever (at this point in an admin)

he really knows how to lose.

Word

eric a blair wrote:

ah, accusing a sitting US senator of soliciting prostitution. All in a day's work for the least popular president ever (at this point in an admin)

he really knows how to lose.

Lose cannons don't need to be in charge of anything.

Mueller is coming.

Trump is done.

So, what will be the end here?

I say Mueller will be done with his investigation either by the end of 2018 or shortly thereafter. He will send a report of his findings to Congress and it will decide whether to begin impeachment proceedings.

Whether they do will depend on:

1) Makeup of Congress that that time (could change if after 2018 elections).

2) What is included in the report. If it's bad enough (and I think it will be), even Republicans will have to vote to impeach, even in the Senate.

So, what will Trump do?:

1) Resign and declare victory (How will he declare victory? Who knows, but he does insane things like that all the time).

OR

2) Go kicking and screaming to the end when he is impeached and thrown out of office.

Any chance the report doesn't find anything of significance against Trump? Nope...UNLESS the Russians are involved again.