Hand her the gold medal now - Caster Semenya complete ridiculous 50.76/1:58.46 double in span of 50 minutes

This is a man. Check the pic in this article: sorry Caster Semenya is a man and her and her whole camp knows it

http://www.sportstalkflorida.com/bruce-jenner-gender-transformation-redefines-sports/

I'm thinking the steeple will find several surprising adherents this year

Citation nation wrote:

I hope Semenya smashes some world records. Truly I do. It will really force the issue then, especially if she were to run 1:50.

I hear ya bro, but it hasn't made any difference with wo/men like Scratchmeallover's 800, Cock's 400, both seen here:

and many drugs cheats are still making a living, Mitchell, Baumann, etc,etc.

I don't know any high school boys to go from 4:11 to 3:50 in a few months. They'd have to be very talented.

Allyson Felix has run 49.2 to Semenya's best of 50.7. To put that into perspective for you, it is the sane performance gap as someone running 1:51.5 to Semenya's 1:55.

There's compare and compare. wrote:

Metric Miler wrote:

If you compare the world records then Semenya's 4:10.9 is comparable to a ~ 3:45 for a male.

And if you compare her 4:10.9 run after a 400 and 800, all within a short space of time, what is it then comparable to?

It's comparable to a 3:45 after a 400 and an 800?

Felix ran 49 seconds after YEARS of focused effort, on top of once-in-a-generation talent; Caster ran 50 seconds as a throwaway component of an early-season triple. If you think SemenInYa isn't capable of 48 with even half of a season of effort, you are in for a big surprise.

Metric Miler wrote:

I don't know any high school boys to go from 4:11 to 3:50 in a few months. They'd have to be very talented.

Allyson Felix has run 49.2 to Semenya's best of 50.7. To put that into perspective for you, it is the sane performance gap as someone running 1:51.5 to Semenya's 1:55.

Phareeekshow wrote:

Felix ran 49 seconds after YEARS of focused effort, on top of once-in-a-generation talent; Caster ran 50 seconds as a throwaway component of an early-season triple. If you think SemenInYa isn't capable of 48 with even half of a season of effort, you are in for a big surprise.

Metric Miler wrote:

I don't know any high school boys to go from 4:11 to 3:50 in a few months. They'd have to be very talented.

Allyson Felix has run 49.2 to Semenya's best of 50.7. To put that into perspective for you, it is the sane performance gap as someone running 1:51.5 to Semenya's 1:55.

48 is another level. If this were a male that ran 50.7 in April you would not predict 48 for them that season. You are getting a little excited.

I'll wait to be surprised.

Who thinks the 50.7 was an all out effort?

Semenya has to be smart about this. Imagine the reaction to a 49.7, 1:57, 4:08 triple.

Citation nation wrote:

Who thinks the 50.7 was an all out effort?

Semenya has to be smart about this. Imagine the reaction to a 49.7, 1:57, 4:08 triple.

Agree. And even setting aside consideration of the possible reactions to faster times, Semenya knew an 800 and 1500 were coming up. And still won the 400 by about 2.5 seconds. No way does that 50.74 show the limit of Semenya's potential at that distance. .

How many 400s did Felix run to get to 49.2 seconds? 50? 100? How many has Caster run? 5? 10?Ross Tucker estimated 49-low RIGHT NOW based on how effortless it looked. 48 is about three more races away, assuming no sandbagging, which we can't. It will be "just enough to win" all the way to the Oly final.

Metric Miler wrote:

Phareeekshow wrote:

Felix ran 49 seconds after YEARS of focused effort, on top of once-in-a-generation talent; Caster ran 50 seconds as a throwaway component of an early-season triple. If you think SemenInYa isn't capable of 48 with even half of a season of effort, you are in for a big surprise.

48 is another level. If this were a male that ran 50.7 in April you would not predict 48 for them that season. You are getting a little excited.

I'll wait to be surprised.

The women's 400 world best that HE just eclipsed was held by a hurdler at USC. He might not be able to win the NCAA women's 400, let alone the Olympics. I would not hand over medals (plural) to him just yet.

Metric Miler wrote:

Tell it like it is wrote:

One of the issues is that people keep calling him a her, including Letsrun.com in the title to this thread.

What an idiot you are.

She is a person who was born with female looking external gentalia, brought up as a girl by her accepting family, feels she is female and wants to be a female.

Really, who are you to decide whether Caster is reffered to as a girl or a boy? This has nothing to do with athletics whatsoever.

"feels she is female and wants to be a female" ARE YOU SERIOUS?.

She married a WOMAN and at her wedding and she dressed as the "male":

She clearly embraces being a man:

You don't see her wearing the bum huggers or boy shorts like all the other women. Instead she wears the men's half tights:

This is the lowest I've seen the Letsrun boards. Absolutely disgusting.

She would if she'd seen the race. Semenya negative split that 400m, and visibly changed pace with 100m to run. She would have run a 49-low had she had a faster athlete one lane inside, pulling her to 200m in 23.x

She'll run 48-something this year, if not even under that.

She'll definitely go faster than 1:55. In fact, I'd say she'll easily get the world record if she wants to.

The 800m time is slow, by the way, because it didn't need to be fast.

She covered the first 300m in about 42s, then surged a little with 50m to go to the bell, and that put about 20m into the next fastest runner in the race (the event is weak here in SA). She then tapped off, until about 300m to go, when she really opened up.

The result is that she ran the 800m very tactically. Even the second lap was not all out, and that was a 57s lap.

Incidentally, the 400m was not all out either. She shifted visibly with 100m to go.

My gut feel, the very first time I saw her on Friday night, is that she'll break the 800m WR. Then I saw the victories in the 400m and 800m, and I actually think she could get the 400m WR as well. I know 3 seconds sounds a lot, but she has that much in reserve that she's in 48s shape already.

Fun and games this year...

The other thing again is context, within the race.

The early pace was very slow - 70s for the first lap. They hit 700m, if my memory serves me in just outside 2 minutes.

Then Dominique Scott pressed on the third lap, and so it got faster, only Semenya was able to follow, but it still wasn't fast. They reached the bell in 3:10, 3:11 for Semenya.

So she closed in 59s. It was easy too. It's one thing to look at times, but to watch it, it was so clearly a sub-maximal effort. Had she been in a race that was set up with an opening lap of 65s instead of 70, and where the third lap was a little more aggressive that Scott was able to mount, they'd have reached the bell in 3:02, 3:03, and Semenya would've run 4:04 at least.

Now that is not going to win any Diamond League races, but her 400m of 50.76, an 800m of 1:58.5 and that are all on one day, and every single one of them was a sub-maximal effort too.

Semenya would, if it happened next week, win both Diamond League races over 400m and 800m at the same meeting - she'd run 49.2s or faster, and 1:56 at a canter.

It's remarkable. I hope she breaks Koch's 400 and Kratochvilova's 800 WR, and I know many here will say no way, and prior to Friday, I'd have agreed with you, and had I not seen it with my own eyes, I still would.

This is in no way an opinion on what happened with her over the last few months (or in 2009 the first time around) - it's just the reality of the situation that we are watching.

Ross

You're still missing the context, and speculating purely based on digits on a computer screen. Time will tell, but I hope Semenya gets into a quality 400m with a fast starter one line inside her, 23.x at 200m and she's run 48.x right now.

This has been a bomb ticking since 2009, and the CAS, in it's infinite ignorance, has set it off.

This just look slike an entry sheet for the heats which is why the times are not in order and a couple have no time