Unfortunately, Ruben Sanca did not run 13:39 as it says in the results. The timing system messed up and gave him his 4800 time
CraigMcMahon @Craig_McMahon4 3h
Local favorite @Sanca617 on the clock at 13:39 but I had him at 14:14, they might have given him his 4800 mark by mistake
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Ruben Sança @Sanca617 1h
Apparently there was some confusion over my official time at BU today, but thanks to everyone for the outpouring amount of support
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LetsRun.com wrote:
SlipperyPete13 wrote:This has been debated endlessly, but is it really a high school record if you're being paid to run?
Yes why not? She's still in HS
Results
1 Cain, Mary Nike Oregon Project 2:39.25M 2
2 Clement, Treniere Nike Oregon Project 2:39.32M 2
She is a professional runner and does not compete in a normal high school schedule. She has vast resources that high school athletes complying with their state regulations do not have.
Not diminishing her awesomeness. She simply isn't a high school runner.
Rowbury 800? What is this all about? Not to be age-ist, but isn't a better strategy for her to move up now? 5000m or 10000m or even jump to the marathon? She's been surpassed by Uceny and Huddle at her main event. The 800 makes no sense unless she's helping train JH.
*stipe wrote:
She is a professional runner and does not compete in a normal high school schedule. She has vast resources that high school athletes complying with their state regulations do not have.
Not diminishing her awesomeness. She simply isn't a high school runner.
who put u in charge?
If all of her times counted last year they should also count this year. Also you can find multiple hs kids that once they get to a certain level they stop doing the regular hs schedule like Emily Sisson. You can also find hundreds of kids with private coaches and trainers thanks to rich parents. They have access to even more than MC does at times depending on location. This is a pure jealousy issue with all of you people that just can't handle records being that good.
https://twitter.com/ryanflotrack/status/424008069052243969
In charge of what? Message board semantics?
I have an opinion based upon the spirit of the records.
If she takes college classes this fall will her marks be considered NCAA records?
No jealousy whatsoever. Why not just call them age group records? No denying her accomplishments. Mary is the greatest runner for her age. But I think if we call something a high school record, that runner should be eligible to compete for their high school. I think the same applies for NCAA records.
Once again, not in any way diminishing her unprecedented achievements.
trackcoach wrote:
How did a 14:59.35 guy get into a record attempt race?
14:31 guy (and 8:50 steepler)...http://www.tfrrs.org/athletes/2792500.html
He is training with Coogan. So that's how.
kfjd;woiefn wrote:
Not to rain on anyone's parade but medals are worth more than records. Silver at 10k is great and should carry greater weight. Maybe he's still building for 2016. Will he be able to handle the weather?
That's not true at all. It depends on the circumstances. It's clear that Rupp's silver was in a weak field, so records would be worth more in his case. If anything, it should carry less weight.
Boston = Indoor TrackTown USA
So if a kid is home schooled and not allowed to compete for a school would their records count for anything? There are kids in this exact situation. They have private coaches pd for by their parents.
are the athletes paid?
*stipe wrote:
She is a professional runner and does not compete in a normal high school schedule. She has vast resources that high school athletes complying with their state regulations do not have.
Not diminishing her awesomeness. She simply isn't a high school runner.
So Jeff Bezos's kids wouldn't be considered high school runners because dad can provide them with anything and everything in the world they need to help them along?
*stipe wrote:
No jealousy whatsoever. Why not just call them age group records? No denying her accomplishments. Mary is the greatest runner for her age. But I think if we call something a high school record, that runner should be eligible to compete for their high school. I think the same applies for NCAA records.
Once again, not in any way diminishing her unprecedented achievements.
Just keep in mind: that's your standard. Unless you want to hold the NFHS records as official (and the NFHS does govern high school athletics, so we probably should) then you make up whatever standard you choose (before graduation vs. after, high school only competition vs. open, representing your high school officially vs. unattached, etc).
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, no one broke 13. By LR standards, they are all hobby joggers.
*stipe wrote:
LetsRun.com wrote:Yes why not? She's still in HS
Results
1 Cain, Mary Nike Oregon Project 2:39.25M 2
2 Clement, Treniere Nike Oregon Project 2:39.32M 2
She is a professional runner and does not compete in a normal high school schedule. She has vast resources that high school athletes complying with their state regulations do not have.
Not diminishing her awesomeness. She simply isn't a high school runner.
Burden of proof. If you say it doesn't count because she is a professional athlete prove it. It doesn't really matter, but I just hate it when people make such bold proclamations with absolutely no evidence to substantiate their claim. If you are so certain provide a link to the rule. If I had your type of confidence I would provide a link right away. Maybe your just an idiot. Prove me wrong
thought the video was good, the commentary by Flotrack was absolutely awful! For some reason the 1000 wasn't shown. My feed went dead after the mens 1000 and resumed at the start of the 5k. Interesting to hear Al Salazar telling some college kids that he'll send them some shoes. He then realized he was being taped and made teh caveat, "check with your compliance officer." Interesting.
There appeared to be some people entered in those events that clearly didn't belong there. Could be a whole other thread.
"Maybe your just an idiot."
*stipe wrote:
She is a professional runner and does not compete in a normal high school schedule. She has vast resources that high school athletes complying with their state regulations do not have.
Not diminishing her awesomeness. She simply isn't a high school runner.
Specifically, what "vast resources" does she have right now that other high schoolers don't? A great coach? A salary? Those are the only ones I know of that result from being a pro. She may have access to massage therapy or some stuff like that, but plenty of wealthy high schoolers have that.
I may be out of the loop... is she being given special consideration at school to get her out to train more? Does she have a team of specialists around her in NY to help her develop?
I really don't see her as having any advantages over any other high school student beyond great coaching.