Ta-Da wrote:
How are so many of you idiots listing a 3k time, and then listing a 5k time that is a faster pace than the 3k you listed?
Ha Ha. Wish I had clicked on this gem a long time ago. Predicting Rudisha to run a 9ish 3000 would be like predicting Bolt to run a 62 400. Lol
Just to point out in this newly-relevant thread something that Sprintgeezer showed a long time ago,
MARCIN LEWANDOWSKI NEVER RAN 10.64 FAT 100m
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4981698&page=1
lol
100 - 10.4
200 - 20.65
400 - 44.5
800 - 1:40.85
1500 - 3:36
3000 - 9:10
5000 - 15:15
10000 - 32:10
Marathon - 2:45
100 - 10.8
200 - 21.9
400 - 44.8
800 - 1:40.0
1500 - 3:30
3000 - 7:55
5000 - 13:45
10000 - 28:40
marathon - 2:20 - 2:25
100 - 10.5
200 - 20.60
400 - 44.9
800 - 1:40.85
1500 - 3:37
3000 - 8:30
5000 - 14:45
10000 - 31:50
Marathon - DNF
You guys are dumb! I'm not expert once it gets past 1500 but I've only seen a few people who have it right for any of the short stuff.
100- 11.0 because of the blocks
200- 21.5 once again because of the blocks
400- 44.8
800- 1:40.75
1500- 3:39
3000- 8:10
5000- 14:35
10000- 32:15
Marathon- would finish but very slow
Boom Sauce wrote:
If Rudisha were to run every event from 100m through marathon, rested with his current training, what would he go?
My predictions:
100 - 10.4
200 - 20.6
400 - 45.5
800 - 1:41.0
1500 - 3:34
3000 - 8:55
5000 - 13:25
10000 - 28:40
marathon - 2:11
10.4 - NO
20.6 - NO
45.5 - OBVIOUSLY
1:41.0 - UM
3:34 - NO
8:55 - HUH? DO YOU MEAN TWO-MILE? STILL, HUH?
13:25 - NO
28:00 - NO
2:11 - NO
In short, you are a moron.
It was Jakub Lewandowicz and not Marcin Lewandowski who ran the 10.64?
BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!
TAKE THAT DISTANCE BITCHES!
Long live SG, if he isn't yet dead.
I just looked into this and it looks like it's true. Dayum...
The Guesstimating Wiz wrote:
You guys are dumb! I'm not expert once it gets past 1500 but I've only seen a few people who have it right for any of the short stuff.
100- 11.0 because of the blocks
200- 21.5 once again because of the blocks
400- 44.8
800- 1:40.75
1500- 3:39
3000- 8:10
5000- 14:35
10000- 32:15
Marathon- would finish but very slow
so you're saying that Rudisha could run close to his all-out 100m speed 4 times in a row?
your above distance times seem spot on but you have to give him 10.8/21.low for 100/200
anyone who can run sub-46 FAT can run sub-11 regardless of blocks, sh*t he could probably do it from a crouch start
Why are people so surprised with his 100m time I can run 11.20 and I don't train a lot and my 800 is 2.07 which is no way near his 800m WR time. If I can run 11.20 then WHY is everyone so shocked with Rudisha going sub 11.00
The thing here is that you are lying, either by misrepresentation or by omission.
Either you can't go 11.20, or you once went 11.20 hand, which means 11.50 FAT.
That's not a comment at all on what Rudisha could do for 100m FAT, I have no idea.
It's a comment on you, and on your comment.
Homez wrote:
The thing here is that you are lying, either by misrepresentation or by omission.
Either you can't go 11.20, or you once went 11.20 hand, which means 11.50 FAT.
That's not a comment at all on what Rudisha could do for 100m FAT, I have no idea.
It's a comment on you, and on your comment.
For what it's worth though, we do know that Rudisha probably has sub 11 or 11 flat speed from blocks, and close to 10 flat speed flying given that his coach has said that he's got low/sub 21 200 speed.
I'd guess just over 11 from blocks and sub-10 flying speed.
Maybe something like 11.3 and 9.9 or 9.8 flying. The best 100m guys go what, 8.9 flying? I think a second slower for Rudi is reasonable.
In fact, having seen that video, I might even guess that he goes 11.4 or 11.5, and 9.7 or 9.6 flying.
His start was laughable, but when he flies, he FLIES! Nice stride. Maybe he should try LJ, he kind of reminds me of Mike Powell, but not nearly as explosive.
He knows how to use blocks. His 45.5 400m was out of blocks. There is literally 0% chance starting from blocks would slow him down enough to go over 11.00 or 21.00
No he doesn't--and since you think he does, neither do you.
Moron troll.
there may be an answer to get a 200/100 speed for elite 800/40 guys, but probably only for them
now, in london, rudy ran that 1'40.9 after heats including a quick 1'44.35 semi
in a 1-off fully rested solo euro circuit run on a cooler day, i'm sure he couda gone ~ 1'40.6
his 400 i have no doubt was in 44-high shape, call it 44.70
from some tables i made, i get
1'40.60 = 43.30 = 19.40 = 9.70
44.70 = 20.10 = 10.05
the key is drop off in quality from 800 -> 100 for him & nearly all 800 guys not called caballo
use the drop-off in actual 400 ability v theoretical 400 equivalent of his 800 ability ->
(44.70/43.30)
apply to the theoretical 200 equivalent of his 400 of 20.10 ->
(44.70/43.30) * 20.10 ->
20.75
the theoretical equivalent of 20.75 is 10.375
apply (44.70/43.30) once more ->
10.71
bottm line, my prelim conclusion, assuming rudy has decent start is that he couda gone
10.7+ / 20.7+
if anyone is interested in those tables, go here :
https://2008olympictrialsakatommyleonard.shutterfly.com/filecabinet
go to
"Ventolin worksheet"
i'm biased, but those are the only tables based on essentially pure maths, not involving physiology/ little cursory stats manipulation of comparative lists
( needed to compare 200i to 200 outdoor to get 200 - 400 conversion - it's ~ 0.25s between indoor/outdoor 200 for an elite )/other drivel
if you are interested in the holy grail of equivalency, you shoud bookmark/download it
"Assuming he has a decent start he could go 10.7+"
It's obvious that his start absolutely sucks, so I think that adding a half-second to 11.2 is perfectly reasonable. Then again, I also think it reasonable that his speed endurance is superior to that of other guys, therefore his flying 100's will be relatively better than his 100 from blocks, and your calculator won't reflect that.
So if it did, maybe your calculator would give 11 assuming he had a decent start, which would be 11.3-11.5 with his crap start.
I would give him around 11.2-11.3, as that range accommodates all of these things.
there is too much drivel here about "unable to start"
it is not 1-finger hand-stands ?!
it's trying to blast outta blocks which anyone short of a cripple can do
its just how much advantage that non-cripple takes of block start
any fool 800 guy can start a 100 from blocks, just that they won't have explosive power to keep double ratio of 100 to 200 of "complete" sprinters
that's why rudy's 20.7+ only works out at 10.7+ insead of 10.35+
the estimates assume he doesn't have same 100 ablity as 200 because of poor block start
it stands as
10.7+/20.7+