I'm not guessing. He hasn't improved his sprint times since last year - the only proof of that would have been times that show that. There are none. He has improved his 800 time since which I said - but you didn't understand - would have required improved endurance but not necessarily speed. I am not saying he can't be faster but it isn't a necessary condition of a faster 800 that he must have improved his sprint speed.
But for all of you who insist he must be faster and will run faster sprint times you have nothing to go on. His prs remain the same. If he is faster we are yet to see it.
So you're twisting your argument into saying that rather than him not getting faster physically, he hasn't improved his sprint times, which is technically true, but also doesn't mean anything because he hasn't ran any sprint races since last year.
Without faster sprint times there is nothing to go on that suggests he is faster. He may be but we are yet to see it. What I think is unlikely is that he will make a quantum leap to being a 44x runner. He would need to be at least a second faster than his 200 pr.
If CL runs a 400 and runs right at 45 flat or a hair under, he’ll just say there’s no way we could’ve seen this coming and accuse CL of doping and then start comparisons to Geordie Beamish, followed by some platitude about Trump.
CL is light years ahead of where he was last indoor season. However, we should all rein in our expectations. The improvements from here will be incremental. But, the American record is there for the taking.
If he runs sub-45 I would simply say I misjudged his sprint ability. The rest is all your fiction.
Except my “fiction” is all truth, since you’ve already done every one of those things.
Without faster sprint times there is nothing to go on that suggests he is faster. He may be but we are yet to see it. What I think is unlikely is that he will make a quantum leap to being a 44x runner. He would need to be at least a second faster than his 200 pr.
First, Cooper's 200 PR is irrelevant. He ran that as a HS freshman, in a meet where he had already run an 800 meter race.
Second, I think it's pretty likely that he ends up as a high 44x runner. He was 46.3 last year, as a 16 year old, when doubling after running a 1:47 flat 800m, and he went 45.4 in a relay split in different meet, also after having doubled. In truth, it would be rather strange if he doesn't get below 45 in an open 400 when he's fully mature and running fresh.
First, Cooper's 200 PR is irrelevant. He ran that as a HS freshman, in a meet where he had already run an 800 meter race.
Second, I think it's pretty likely that he ends up as a high 44x runner. He was 46.3 last year, as a 16 year old, when doubling after running a 1:47 flat 800m, and he went 45.4 in a relay split in different meet, also after having doubled. In truth, it would be rather strange if he doesn't get below 45 in an open 400 when he's fully mature and running fresh.
45.4 in a relay is 46.2 from blocks. It doesn't say he is getting faster. Why would he be able to take a second and a half off his best time in the event when Quincy Wilson has only improved a tenth of a second since he, too, was 16? If Wilson improves as much as you expect Lutkenhaus to do then he will run 42-high.
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First, Cooper's 200 PR is irrelevant. He ran that as a HS freshman, in a meet where he had already run an 800 meter race.
Second, I think it's pretty likely that he ends up as a high 44x runner. He was 46.3 last year, as a 16 year old, when doubling after running a 1:47 flat 800m, and he went 45.4 in a relay split in different meet, also after having doubled. In truth, it would be rather strange if he doesn't get below 45 in an open 400 when he's fully mature and running fresh.
45.4 in a relay is 46.2 from blocks. It doesn't say he is getting faster. Why would he be able to take a second and a half off his best time in the event when Quincy Wilson has only improved a tenth of a second since he, too, was 16? If Wilson improves as much as you expect Lutkenhaus to do then he will run 42-high.
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Cooper is easily faster than he was two years ago. Give it rest you old jealus schmuck. His win at indoor WCs sent you completely over the edge.
45.4 in a relay is 46.2 from blocks. It doesn't say he is getting faster. Why would he be able to take a second and a half off his best time in the event when Quincy Wilson has only improved a tenth of a second since he, too, was 16? If Wilson improves as much as you expect Lutkenhaus to do then he will run 42-high.
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Cooper is easily faster than he was two years ago. Give it rest you old jealus schmuck. His win at indoor WCs sent you completely over the edge.
You confuse scepticism with jealousy. If he is "easily faster" you could point to a time that he has run that shows it. But you can't. So you only think he is faster. He might be. But it is unlikely to be anything like some have suggested, such as a 44x 400. That would require a quantum leap in his best 200 time.
So many posts removed. You must soend hours complaining to the mods.
Cooper is easily faster than he was two years ago. Give it rest you old jealus schmuck. His win at indoor WCs sent you completely over the edge.
You confuse scepticism with jealousy. If he is "easily faster" you could point to a time that he has run that shows it. But you can't. So you only think he is faster. He might be. But it is unlikely to be anything like some have suggested, such as a 44x 400. That would require a quantum leap in his best 200 time.
Wow. Army is now hedging by saying Cooper “might be” faster. Maybe he’ll acknowledge that Cooper hasn’t raced at 200m in over two years and at 400m just short of 12 months.
You confuse scepticism with jealousy. If he is "easily faster" you could point to a time that he has run that shows it. But you can't. So you only think he is faster. He might be. But it is unlikely to be anything like some have suggested, such as a 44x 400. That would require a quantum leap in his best 200 time.
Wow. Army is now hedging by saying Cooper “might be” faster. Maybe he’ll acknowledge that Cooper hasn’t raced at 200m in over two years and at 400m just short of 12 months.
But don’t hold your breath.
I think we’re better off not feeding the troll. Army knows a guy who ran 1:42 at 16 off of low mileage has to have sime great 200/400 talent, he’s just trolling
You confuse scepticism with jealousy. If he is "easily faster" you could point to a time that he has run that shows it. But you can't. So you only think he is faster. He might be. But it is unlikely to be anything like some have suggested, such as a 44x 400. That would require a quantum leap in his best 200 time.
Wow. Army is now hedging by saying Cooper “might be” faster. Maybe he’ll acknowledge that Cooper hasn’t raced at 200m in over two years and at 400m just short of 12 months.
But don’t hold your breath.
I never said he wouldn't be. I'm not arguing that. What I have said is that I think it unlikely he will be competitive over the 400 as he is over the 800. I doubt he will run 44x for the 400. He would have to be more than a second faster than his best over the 200.
Wow. Army is now hedging by saying Cooper “might be” faster. Maybe he’ll acknowledge that Cooper hasn’t raced at 200m in over two years and at 400m just short of 12 months.
But don’t hold your breath.
I think we’re better off not feeding the troll. Army knows a guy who ran 1:42 at 16 off of low mileage has to have sime great 200/400 talent, he’s just trolling
You mean like Nick Symmonds, who ran sub-1:43 in London 2012, and has a 47x pr over the 400?
I think we’re better off not feeding the troll. Army knows a guy who ran 1:42 at 16 off of low mileage has to have sime great 200/400 talent, he’s just trolling
You mean like Nick Symmonds, who ran sub-1:43 in London 2012, and has a 47x pr over the 400?
How old was Nick when he ran 1:42? And what year did Nick run his 400 “PR”? Comparing Cooper’s sprint times at 15 (200) and 16 (400) to adults at their known peak is amusing. And is proves you are merely trolling to irritate. All of it based in your jealousy of course.
Go back to your potato pancakes and grind your teeth further as you cry over a 17 year old American winning the World Indoor. What a miserable kvetch.