JimmyD123 wrote:
Boulevard
Multiple greenways
Guardshack
Norris
Haw ridge
Island home
Yes I said *good* places to run, not just any place to run. The only one nice one of those is Guard Shack and it’s in the outskirts of Oak Ridge, not Knoxville
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Rather than grab a guy who is on his 3rd job in 5 years and no experience coaching at altitude why not go after Damon Martin who is a guru and has dominated DII and is familiar with the rigors of coaching at altitude. This dude will be gone in a couple years
Also, I thought an insider said they were hiring Isiah Corncob or whatever his name is from NAU
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Any relation to Andrew Carlson?
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I have no idea but wrote:
GarbageMan wrote:
Oh, and for all the insiders that were calling this or that person had the job: what happened?
Speaking of garbage... weren't you the guy claiming that CU wouldn't fund their program so they would not be able to get any high profile coach... you think Carlson jumped ship from heavily funded Tennessee for an 'unfunded' Colorado program? Sure.
What happened is right!
I am! How kind of you to remember!!!
Let us not confuse the issue. Is Carlson a high profile as you stated? Sure, this could be debated, but, let's go with you assertion. I submit that high profile does not equal a good hire.
My commentary in that other thread was much wider in the CU would not adequately fund a full running program: XC, track and field (those pesky speed and power events, not just distance). Enough coaching staff for events, and enough funding to incentivize sprinters, throwers, hurdlers, and jumpers to outfit a complete team, and vie to come to CU which means money for packages, facilities, hosting meets, travel, support staff, etc.
Have you every been at a serious P4 school and seen their well supported T&F/XC programs? Locker rooms, training room(s), rows or AlterG's, loads of NormaTec's, crazy amounts of apparel and training wear/shoes, all meals, tutors, housing, medical/dental/vision supports, big home meets, alumni outreach/relations, NIL office, etc. For running/T&F. At CU, Football barely has most of this stuff, yet, if you go check out Arkansas, Boston College, Stanford, Florida, Georgia, etc. you will see what well funded looks like.
And paying the incoming person around the same amount as the outgoing person does not seem to reflect much of a change in funding. I appreciate you confirming my point.
However, you did not answer the question I asked of all the, "insiders," what happened to all those that said they had the information? Hmmmm?17 -
I think it is 3rd job in 2 years.
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Did he get fired from Tennessee? Or rumor
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GarbageMan wrote:
I have no idea but wrote:
Speaking of garbage... weren't you the guy claiming that CU wouldn't fund their program so they would not be able to get any high profile coach... you think Carlson jumped ship from heavily funded Tennessee for an 'unfunded' Colorado program? Sure.
What happened is right!
I am! How kind of you to remember!!!
Let us not confuse the issue. Is Carlson a high profile as you stated? Sure, this could be debated, but, let's go with you assertion. I submit that high profile does not equal a good hire.
My commentary in that other thread was much wider in the CU would not adequately fund a full running program: XC, track and field (those pesky speed and power events, not just distance). Enough coaching staff for events, and enough funding to incentivize sprinters, throwers, hurdlers, and jumpers to outfit a complete team, and vie to come to CU which means money for packages, facilities, hosting meets, travel, support staff, etc.
Have you every been at a serious P4 school and seen their well supported T&F/XC programs? Locker rooms, training room(s), rows or AlterG's, loads of NormaTec's, crazy amounts of apparel and training wear/shoes, all meals, tutors, housing, medical/dental/vision supports, big home meets, alumni outreach/relations, NIL office, etc. For running/T&F. At CU, Football barely has most of this stuff, yet, if you go check out Arkansas, Boston College, Stanford, Florida, Georgia, etc. you will see what well funded looks like.
And paying the incoming person around the same amount as the outgoing person does not seem to reflect much of a change in funding. I appreciate you confirming my point.
However, you did not answer the question I asked of all the, "insiders," what happened to all those that said they had the information? Hmmmm?
Garbage in garbage out.
As the name implies, I have no idea where the insiders went... I think people claiming they know things is weird. I'm not one and never claimed to be.
My point to you was that you were just as wrong. They hired a guy who was making good coin at an SEC school. The guy didn't leave for a program that wasn't going to support him.
Thanks for making your point? Sure, guy who thinks he knows.
(Oh, yes, I have been around majorly funded track programs... their aren't many of those.)
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*there
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Truth
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I have no idea but wrote:
GarbageMan wrote:
I am! How kind of you to remember!!!
Let us not confuse the issue. Is Carlson a high profile as you stated? Sure, this could be debated, but, let's go with you assertion. I submit that high profile does not equal a good hire.
My commentary in that other thread was much wider in the CU would not adequately fund a full running program: XC, track and field (those pesky speed and power events, not just distance). Enough coaching staff for events, and enough funding to incentivize sprinters, throwers, hurdlers, and jumpers to outfit a complete team, and vie to come to CU which means money for packages, facilities, hosting meets, travel, support staff, etc.
Have you every been at a serious P4 school and seen their well supported T&F/XC programs? Locker rooms, training room(s), rows or AlterG's, loads of NormaTec's, crazy amounts of apparel and training wear/shoes, all meals, tutors, housing, medical/dental/vision supports, big home meets, alumni outreach/relations, NIL office, etc. For running/T&F. At CU, Football barely has most of this stuff, yet, if you go check out Arkansas, Boston College, Stanford, Florida, Georgia, etc. you will see what well funded looks like.
And paying the incoming person around the same amount as the outgoing person does not seem to reflect much of a change in funding. I appreciate you confirming my point.
However, you did not answer the question I asked of all the, "insiders," what happened to all those that said they had the information? Hmmmm?
Garbage in garbage out.
As the name implies, I have no idea where the insiders went... I think people claiming they know things is weird. I'm not one and never claimed to be.
My point to you was that you were just as wrong. They hired a guy who was making good coin at an SEC school. The guy didn't leave for a program that wasn't going to support him.
Thanks for making your point? Sure, guy who thinks he knows.
(Oh, yes, I have been around majorly funded track programs... their aren't many of those.)
Cool. Let's talk again after Madison.
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BeepBoop69 wrote:
Rather than grab a guy who is on his 3rd job in 5 years and no experience coaching at altitude why not go after Damon Martin who is a guru and has dominated DII and is familiar with the rigors of coaching at altitude. This dude will be gone in a couple years
Also, I thought an insider said they were hiring Isiah Corncob or whatever his name is from NAU
Damon Martin is retiring soon or soon-ish.
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Carlson RIP wrote:
adjacent wrote:
I wonder if part of it is how the athletic department handled things by just straight out firing Wetmore. Not the incoming coach's fault but creates a bad taste about the situation.
This isn’t going to end well
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O/U 6 months until Sean Carlson gets fired for breaking ncaa violations for contacting an athlete who is not in the transfer portal?
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Lolllllll wrote:
O/U 6 months until Sean Carlson gets fired for breaking ncaa violations for contacting an athlete who is not in the transfer portal?
You mean like the ones he contacted the day he told the team he was going to CU who were either already on the roster at Tennessee or certain recruits on their way to Tennessee who wouldn't have had a chance to enter the portal?
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Ya, the ones he told on individual phone calls the day after his announcement that he would offer them fulls if they folllwed him to CU.
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skobuffs24 wrote:
Carlson RIP wrote:
This isn’t going to end well
Love the jazz hands! 👐
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GarbageMan wrote:
I have no idea but wrote:
Speaking of garbage... weren't you the guy claiming that CU wouldn't fund their program so they would not be able to get any high profile coach... you think Carlson jumped ship from heavily funded Tennessee for an 'unfunded' Colorado program? Sure.
What happened is right!
I am! How kind of you to remember!!!
Let us not confuse the issue. Is Carlson a high profile as you stated? Sure, this could be debated, but, let's go with you assertion. I submit that high profile does not equal a good hire.
My commentary in that other thread was much wider in the CU would not adequately fund a full running program: XC, track and field (those pesky speed and power events, not just distance). Enough coaching staff for events, and enough funding to incentivize sprinters, throwers, hurdlers, and jumpers to outfit a complete team, and vie to come to CU which means money for packages, facilities, hosting meets, travel, support staff, etc.
Have you every been at a serious P4 school and seen their well supported T&F/XC programs? Locker rooms, training room(s), rows or AlterG's, loads of NormaTec's, crazy amounts of apparel and training wear/shoes, all meals, tutors, housing, medical/dental/vision supports, big home meets, alumni outreach/relations, NIL office, etc. For running/T&F. At CU, Football barely has most of this stuff, yet, if you go check out Arkansas, Boston College, Stanford, Florida, Georgia, etc. you will see what well funded looks like.
And paying the incoming person around the same amount as the outgoing person does not seem to reflect much of a change in funding. I appreciate you confirming my point.
However, you did not answer the question I asked of all the, "insiders," what happened to all those that said they had the information? Hmmmm?
You mentioned Boston College. SMH....
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Knoxvegas wrote:
JimmyD123 wrote:
Boulevard
Multiple greenways
Guardshack
Norris
Haw ridge
Island home
Yes I said *good* places to run, not just any place to run. The only one nice one of those is Guard Shack and it’s in the outskirts of Oak Ridge, not Knoxville
What he said. There's a difference between having places to run and having GOOD places to run.
I've been in Knoxville for a little while now, and I've been consistently underwhelmed by the options. I'd rather run in Nashville or Chattanooga than in Knoxville any day of the week.
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You would rather run in… nashville? What are you on bro?
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