Why the rate of single men in the US looking for dates has declined

Again, I would just about totally guarantee that what you think of as being flirtatious and showing interest is perceived as being creepy.

I know you don't want to believe it, but that doesn't make it untrue.

* When there is a dynamic that advantages one party (e.g. women are advantaged when there's a 13:10 male:female ratio like in many U.S. cities), the advantaged party will naturally raise their expectations somewhat while the disadvantaged party will compromise somewhat, but in the grand scheme of things, people are hardwired to be attracted to a small portion of each other. All this numerical discussion about ratios or top X% is bunk because it assumes that attraction is fully elastic. It's not that in Russia, females women are very attractive relative to the global standard, the local males have some radically adjusted standard of beauty. Maybe a little bit, but Russian males will tell you that Russian females are generally very attractive from their point of view.
* Pairing off is optional. A society with a high level of people pairing off (e.g. Mormon communities) is more of a cultural or religious thing.
* Taylor Swift is considered (by females in America) to be the perfect female. She ticks every box of who females in America aspire to be. That's why she practically has the status of a goddess. But males are generally not attracted to her, despite finding her very attractive looking. Figure that one out.
* Females find a smaller fraction of males sexually attractive than males do of females. However, females are somehow more able to compromise in this regard ("I don't find him good looking, but he's not exactly bad looking, so I guess I can live with that.").
* A lot of the debate around "adult males who live in mom's basement and play video games" is just a chicken-versus-egg question. Do males drop out because females aren't interested in them to begin with? Tell me why a male would want to spend his Friday night going to a night club and being ignored by females rather than staying home and improving his Call of Duty ranking. The males who stay at home and play video games aren't ones who females are sexually attracted to anyways, so I don't know why females complain that they wish these males would get a good and talk to them at a night club.
* Fewer females want to have kids. Few males are interested in females who don't wish to have kids.
* To the extend that it's true that females (in America) have a hard time finding economically viable males, consider that males aren't going to be motivated to improve their economic status if the message they're hearing (can be an implicit message such as a social media profile showing off their lifestyle) from females is that they're well off on their own.
* Around half of relationships used to spawn in the office. Nowadays, everyone works from home. You're delusional if you think that the number of past in-person relationship formations at work are going to be offset by additional relationships coming from online dating.
* Attractive people are rarely single. Attractive people who are single end up in relationships in a heartbeat -and without any effort.

No, that short height in males in a physically unattractive trait is about as ubiquitous as possible. It's not a stretch to say that 100% of females in the world have a strong preference for taller males.

People respond to incentives. If there was a huge reward in the dating world for improving one's economic situation, then males would be more motivated to make $. Why would a male who makes $60,000/year put in a ton of work to make $600,000/year if that only yields a marginal improvement in the caliber of females he can date? If that made dating go from "Impossibly Hard" to "Easy," then males would be incentivized to do it.

It of course depends what country you are in. In developing countries like China, there's a higher R.O.I. for males to make a jump to the next income bracket. In Shanghai, you neverseea male who makes good $ without an attractive female, and conversely you never see a poor male with an attractive female - unheard of!

It's only creepy if you're ugly.

I thought there was a big shortage of women in China in the younger demographics due to the one-child policy from years ago?

I recall reading somewhere that Chinese men are some of the frustrated men in the world because many will never end up marrying because of no women.

And best not to approach women under any circumstances. 😲

When women tell you "no", try to listen, otherwise you are going to end up in trouble.

Use your frustration to write a manual on "How To Make Myself Totally Unattractive to Women".

Relatively few women compared to men want to fake intimacy to get casual sex. Your phrase "Many women I've been with" is a red flag in itself. Statistically, you are ruling yourself out of consideration by a large number of women. You're one to avoid. Do you understand? Some women will have sex with you because they're desperate, or naive, or because you lie to them, or they're lonely or have poor personal boundaries. But your behaviour is creepy.

Ugh, and the way you manipulate what women say when they point out why you are a turn off and indicate they wouldn't want to do what you want women to do indicates you have a problem with rejection.

Look on the good side - your clumsy attempts at talking about "spicy" topics is the sort of thing women laugh about and ridicule. You really have no idea how much amusement an over earnest male desperate for sex trying to talk about his sexual desires actually cause when you get it wrong. Which in your case I can guarantee us more often than not.

No Karen, I finally see the truth now. Thank you for helping to open my eyes. All along I thought that women wanted confident men who weren't afraid of talking to, flirting and building sexual tension with women. I now understand that women all hate sex and want a man who doesn't show any sexual interest in them. I was happy with my sex life before, but I guess I'll try your way now! THANK YOU!!!

You don’t think making 600k instead of 60k gets you a better partner? Have you ever dated?

This whole, unhinged rant comes off as one giant projection of your own insecurities. I'm guessing you and Karen (assuming you're both female) weren't asked out by guys very much, so you harbor this anger at men and women who actually were sexually active, and portray them as creepy and desparate/lonely/sad, respectively. You quoting me saying "many women I've been with" and saying it's a red flag kinda gives this away.

I think I'll stick with my desparate, naive, lonely women with poor personal boundaries and avoid the angry sex police like Karen and yourself.

I have literally seen women’s dating profiles saying they want short or specifically under a certain height.

Looking up at a much taller partner can be uncomfortable

lots of bad advice here

"befriend her first" -> when you make your move she'll call you a creep who faked being her friend only to have sex with her.

the only good advice is the following: become attractive

your life literally depends on it.

My coworker, who's not a short or unattractive woman, said she prefers the short kings. One of her office crushes is a guy who's 5'5". This stereotype that women only like guys above a certain height is stupid ridiculous and just an excuse that incels make when they can't find someone.

I've found that there are a very select few women who have a firm height requirement and won't date men below it. Then there's women who say they prefer men over a certain height, but will make exceptions to guys who can attract them in other ways. Then, the category I've found most women fall under, are the women who don't care about height at all or will date any guy who doesn't fall on the extreme ends of the height spectrum. This has been my experience, so I hope this clears up the confusion.

You really have issues with women, don't you? I have been "asked out" and worse by men far too much in my life. You sound like you're talking about a sitcom from the seventies as you seem to have no idea how real life works for the average person. Even your terminology is cringey. In my thirties, I'm married and not interested in sleeping around with multiple partners. Why are you so invested in portraying not wanting to sleep around and being monogamous with your spouse as unusual?

Again, if a woman says no, or tells you you are doing it wrong, if you don't listen, you're going to end up in trouble. Thats if you haven't already...So yes, you will be sticking with your desperate, naive, lonely women with poor personal boundaries, and yes, you probably do lie to them to get them into bed.

When did I say that? Give me the exact quote saying that you being monogamous is unusual. I really don't care what you do with your life. I don't know what psychological issues you're trying to work out by engaging in this argument, but all I'm going to say is that you definitely don't speak on behalf of all women.

Many women, especially the ones interested in having sex and dating, enjoy flirtation. For some, this may involve having more overtly sexual conversations, others not as much or not at all (as evidenced by the . This will look different depending on the people involved and situation. Men fail to understand this, and how to do it in an appropriate way, which is why women complain that men are boring and don't know how to talk with women.

Can't help but agree with joe. Women with an active sex life don't want a guy who's too skittish to even talk about sex. That pretty much says you don't get laid.