Wrong-o. Guy shouldn't have died but when a crazy person whatever the root causes is freaking out on a train....
there's 99.99% chance they have a criminal record. Good "liberals" let him go though, time after time after time after time without caring if he really got treatment -- it just made them "feel good" esp since "they" rarely take the subway.
If conservatives actually cared about people in need getting treatment I’d let this slide but they don’t. Conservatives have no solution to help people in need like Jordan so they’re fine with killing them. It’s despicable.
There are so many resources available to homeless people. They don't always access them. Republicans already fund these through taxes and tithing to the church. Unless you are okay with forcing people into institutions (which I love, but liberals will never ever allow) there is nothing you can do for these people.
The only thing tragic about this is our pathetic criminal justice system. Spends more time on parents at school board meetings than removing criminals from common areas. Good on the Marine-- can guarantee you given the option having their baby traveling with him or with the thug, 99.9% of America (including even the most mentally ravaged BLM terrorists) would prefer the Marine.
Multiple time violent offenders should not be given 4th (or 40th chances). At some point, people need to recognize that a certain subset of the population is irredeemable in this world. The most humane thing to do is lock them away for good from the 97% of society who can go a day without harassing people, trying to mug them, etc.
Simply put, without justice, there will be no peace. People have a right to be safe in their person or property, and we should not feel bad when thieves and other criminals are stopped in their tracks for good at the hands of a public who will not allow themselves to be stolen from or harmed.
The only thing tragic about this is our pathetic criminal justice system. Spends more time on parents at school board meetings than removing criminals from common areas. Good on the Marine-- can guarantee you given the option having their baby traveling with him or with the thug, 99.9% of America (including even the most mentally ravaged BLM terrorists) would prefer the Marine.
Multiple time violent offenders should not be given 4th (or 40th chances). At some point, people need to recognize that a certain subset of the population is irredeemable in this world. The most humane thing to do is lock them away for good from the 97% of society who can go a day without harassing people, trying to mug them, etc.
Simply put, without justice, there will be no peace. People have a right to be safe in their person or property, and we should not feel bad when thieves and other criminals are stopped in their tracks for good at the hands of a public who will not allow themselves to be stolen from or harmed.
A guy screams that he’s hungry. Better off in jail. Throws his jacket. Gets his one and only life taken by another passenger. And you think this is…justice?
what makes Jordan Neely irredeemable to you? Who gave you the right to decide who is and who isn’t irredeemable?
how is he a thug? He was poor and homeless and struggling. But you know what he never did? He never strangled someone to death because they made him uncomfortable. The nameless marine did.
the subway is not the marines property and Jordan had a right to safety on the subway too. He didn’t threaten anyone.
People are defending a black man being murdered for throwing a tantrum surely you have thick enough skin to handle a little name calling. Besides it’s an objectively funny word.
To be clear, regardless of random tweets, there are NO eyewitness accounts saying he ACTUALLY threatened someone. he was behaving erratically but no one is saying he threatened anyone.
this guy was needlessly butchered.
it’s evil.
A guy shouting that he doesn't mind if he goes to jail for life is very much threatening with the prospect of potentially committing a capital crime.
So you think that someone actually murdering him is the answer? You’re insane.
The only thing tragic about this is our pathetic criminal justice system. Spends more time on parents at school board meetings than removing criminals from common areas. Good on the Marine-- can guarantee you given the option having their baby traveling with him or with the thug, 99.9% of America (including even the most mentally ravaged BLM terrorists) would prefer the Marine.
Multiple time violent offenders should not be given 4th (or 40th chances). At some point, people need to recognize that a certain subset of the population is irredeemable in this world. The most humane thing to do is lock them away for good from the 97% of society who can go a day without harassing people, trying to mug them, etc.
Simply put, without justice, there will be no peace. People have a right to be safe in their person or property, and we should not feel bad when thieves and other criminals are stopped in their tracks for good at the hands of a public who will not allow themselves to be stolen from or harmed.
A guy screams that he’s hungry. Better off in jail. Throws his jacket. Gets his one and only life taken by another passenger. And you think this is…justice?
what makes Jordan Neely irredeemable to you? Who gave you the right to decide who is and who isn’t irredeemable?
how is he a thug? He was poor and homeless and struggling. But you know what he never did? He never strangled someone to death because they made him uncomfortable. The nameless marine did.
the subway is not the marines property and Jordan had a right to safety on the subway too. He didn’t threaten anyone.
just gross at this point
No, you don’t have the right to be a career criminal and expect society to bend over for you time and again. Didn’t he punch an elderly woman in the face (could be wrong but I believe one article said he did). You can put lipstick on a pig, or a high school graduation gown on a thug, but at the end of the day they are both still ugly.
A guy screams that he’s hungry. Better off in jail. Throws his jacket. Gets his one and only life taken by another passenger. And you think this is…justice?
what makes Jordan Neely irredeemable to you? Who gave you the right to decide who is and who isn’t irredeemable?
how is he a thug? He was poor and homeless and struggling. But you know what he never did? He never strangled someone to death because they made him uncomfortable. The nameless marine did.
the subway is not the marines property and Jordan had a right to safety on the subway too. He didn’t threaten anyone.
just gross at this point
No, you don’t have the right to be a career criminal and expect society to bend over for you time and again. Didn’t he punch an elderly woman in the face (could be wrong but I believe one article said he did). You can put lipstick on a pig, or a high school graduation gown on a thug, but at the end of the day they are both still ugly.
I looked it up. Idiot had an active warrant. Class act. Clearly would never harm a sole
“People were uNcOmFoRtabLe”… the guy had over 40 arrests and punched a 67 year old woman in the face. At what point is a human being allowed to be scared for their life? This guy has a well documented track record of committing crimes.
The amount of physical crime on the NYC subways in the past few years is outrageous. Bet dollars to donuts you’ve never even rode a NYC subway in your life. Because if you had, especially recently, you wouldn’t be spewing this uncomfortable nonsense. You would know the NYC subway crime statistics and like a reasonable person you would deduce the fact that not everyone riding the subway is just uncomfortable. Unless in your world uncomfortable means maimed or dead.
Let me guess, you live in Scarsdale and ride the subways once a year to go to see the ballet.
You weren't clear, did Jordan punch a 67 year old woman in the face on the subway when he was murdered? no? okay.
Like I said, I've lived in New York City many years, and there were a lot of things that made me uncomfortable. At what point is a human being allowed to be scared for their life? Let me ask you, at what point in the fifteen minutes he was on the ground, humiliated and being strangled to death, do you think Jordan Neely became scared for his life?
Thinking out loud now...
I wonder when Carol Bryant was scared for her life...
I wonder when George Zimmerman was scared for his life...
I wonder if Derek Chauvin was scared for his life...
I wonder when Amy Cooper became scared for her life...
Funny enough we both frequent a track and field website literally centered around the track records of athletes. Yet when it comes to track records of criminals you couldn’t care less.
There’s a broader problem at bay here that you’re well aware of. That man shouldn’t be allowed on public streets GIVEN his track record. He should be in jail or a mental hospital/home. He’s a ticking time bomb that already has a track record of committing violence.
Unless the marine was intentionally trying to kill this man there should be zero charges against him. Why? Because this Marine is a credible person given his track record and commitment of service to this country. So if he says I didn’t mean to kill him I was trying my best to restrain him - then I believe him. What I don’t believe is the rosy picture you’re painting around a person with a proven criminal track record.
Notice none of my posts have mentioned anything about race unlike what you’re alluding to in your above post?
The only thing tragic about this is our pathetic criminal justice system. Spends more time on parents at school board meetings than removing criminals from common areas. Good on the Marine-- can guarantee you given the option having their baby traveling with him or with the thug, 99.9% of America (including even the most mentally ravaged BLM terrorists) would prefer the Marine.
Multiple time violent offenders should not be given 4th (or 40th chances). At some point, people need to recognize that a certain subset of the population is irredeemable in this world. The most humane thing to do is lock them away for good from the 97% of society who can go a day without harassing people, trying to mug them, etc.
Simply put, without justice, there will be no peace. People have a right to be safe in their person or property, and we should not feel bad when thieves and other criminals are stopped in their tracks for good at the hands of a public who will not allow themselves to be stolen from or harmed.
A guy screams that he’s hungry. Better off in jail. Throws his jacket. Gets his one and only life taken by another passenger. And you think this is…justice?
what makes Jordan Neely irredeemable to you? Who gave you the right to decide who is and who isn’t irredeemable?
how is he a thug? He was poor and homeless and struggling. But you know what he never did? He never strangled someone to death because they made him uncomfortable. The nameless marine did.
the subway is not the marines property and Jordan had a right to safety on the subway too. He didn’t threaten anyone.
just gross at this point
Yes it did, on that day and at least 40 others. There are reddit threads showing it harassing and threatening people going back 10 years.
Ultimately you can't say the thug got what it deserved because a career criminal's life is not worth anywhere near the 1000s (10s of 1000s?) of lives it harassed, threatened, beat, and stole from. But even though there wasn't complete justice in this case, the world can sleep easier tonight knowing the terror will never hurt anyone again.
Here's how your Democratic run city, top to bottom, treats people. Don't start there but don't forget the BILLIONS OF $$$ -- nearly all unaccounted for, all without results -- that DeBlasio's wife supposedly spent on mental health programs.
If anything, btw, Blacks are overrepresented in government because gerrymandering to keep Latino and Asians at bay so it's not a "racial" issue per se.
Take a look at the cops in these pics also; how many "white" people do ya'll see?
Jordan Neely had more than a dozen run-ins with police due to his mental health issues — part of a lengthy history of instability that was tragically never remedied.
A better way forward: 1) Person A is caught on camera stealing an apple-- person A is held overnight, there is a trial the next day, the jury deliberates for 5 min, and the judge orders party A to pay back double the value of the stolen property either via existing funds or labor (restitution) as well as spend a week in prison (justice).
2) Party A is caught on a camera stealing an apple a second time-- party A is held overnight, there is a trial the next day, the jury deliberates for 5min, and the judge orders party A to pay back quadruple the value of the stolen property either via existing funds or labor (restitution), and serve a year in prison (justice).
3) Party A is caught on a camera stealing an apple a third time-- party A is held overnight, there is a trial the next day, the jury deliberates for 10min, and the judge orders party A to pay back 10x the value of the stolen property either via existing funds of labor (restitution), serve a decade in prison (justice), and face a public lashing (punishment).
4) Party A is caught on camera stealing an apple for a 4th time-- party A is held overnight, there is a trial the next day, the jury deliberates for 15 minutes, and the judge sentences the terror to death. Within the next 24hrs, the victim is given the opportunity to either pull the door himself, or to watch as the state ends the scum for good.
Wrong-o. Guy shouldn't have died but when a crazy person whatever the root causes is freaking out on a train....
there's 99.99% chance they have a criminal record. Good "liberals" let him go though, time after time after time after time without caring if he really got treatment -- it just made them "feel good" esp since "they" rarely take the subway.
If conservatives actually cared about people in need getting treatment I’d let this slide but they don’t. Conservatives have no solution to help people in need like Jordan so they’re fine with killing them. It’s despicable.
Radical idea, maybe after one of the 47 times he got arrested he could have been forced into treatment instead of released. But it doesn't matter what "conservatives" think. Libs have complete control over NYC.
Wrong-o. Guy shouldn't have died but when a crazy person whatever the root causes is freaking out on a train....
there's 99.99% chance they have a criminal record. Good "liberals" let him go though, time after time after time after time without caring if he really got treatment -- it just made them "feel good" esp since "they" rarely take the subway.
If conservatives actually cared about people in need getting treatment I’d let this slide but they don’t. Conservatives have no solution to help people in need like Jordan so they’re fine with killing them. It’s despicable.
Liberals, who claim to defend the weakest and least defended in society, support the deliberate slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent unborn human beings each year in the USA via direct abortion, which is often torturous. So just who is fine with killing? And with torture?
I live in Manhattan and have ridden the subway daily since 2015. During the (Democrat) De Blasio Administration, it was rare to see cops on the subways or subway platforms. Since the (Democrat) Administration of Eric Adams, a former transit police officer, there has been an increased police presence on the subway platforms, but most people I speak with favor having two cops per subway train, and I don't know if Mayor Adams will fight for that. (De Blasio also didn't like to prosecute prostitution, and Adams' Manhattan DA, Alvin Bragg, doesn't like to prosecute for resisting arrest, which is what allowed hell to break out in so many high profile cases in the USA in the last decade or so (e.g., Eric Garner, Michael Brown, George Floyd, Jacob Blake, Daunte Wright) Is that also the fault of conservatives?)
There are plans for the installation of new turnstiles to prevent would-be farebeaters from jumping the turnstiles to the subway platforms. Keeping those criminals would like help to lower crime on the subways and the platforms. Farebeating is a huge problem on buses, and again sets a tone that crimes will not be punished.
Liberals have thwarted law enforcement, yet cry out when guys like the three(?) men who responded to the decedent in this case react to a perceived threat. I don't know if any of these three(?) men committed a crime, but liberal attitudes were a factor in the incident.
Let me guess, you live in Scarsdale and ride the subways once a year to go to see the ballet.
You weren't clear, did Jordan punch a 67 year old woman in the face on the subway when he was murdered? no? okay.
Like I said, I've lived in New York City many years, and there were a lot of things that made me uncomfortable. At what point is a human being allowed to be scared for their life? Let me ask you, at what point in the fifteen minutes he was on the ground, humiliated and being strangled to death, do you think Jordan Neely became scared for his life?
Thinking out loud now...
I wonder when Carol Bryant was scared for her life...
I wonder when George Zimmerman was scared for his life...
I wonder if Derek Chauvin was scared for his life...
I wonder when Amy Cooper became scared for her life...
Funny enough we both frequent a track and field website literally centered around the track records of athletes. Yet when it comes to track records of criminals you couldn’t care less.
There’s a broader problem at bay here that you’re well aware of. That man shouldn’t be allowed on public streets GIVEN his track record. He should be in jail or a mental hospital/home. He’s a ticking time bomb that already has a track record of committing violence.
Unless the marine was intentionally trying to kill this man there should be zero charges against him. Why? Because this Marine is a credible person given his track record and commitment of service to this country. So if he says I didn’t mean to kill him I was trying my best to restrain him - then I believe him. What I don’t believe is the rosy picture you’re painting around a person with a proven criminal track record.
Notice none of my posts have mentioned anything about race unlike what you’re alluding to in your above post?
Interesting the people we choose to "believe" and "forgive" vs the ones we think should be removed from society--either thrown in a "mental institution" or dead.
You don't have to mention race. You've already shown you have tremendous unfounded bias. You believe someone's integrity based on a decision to enlist in the marines. you know nothing of his track record, yet you are willing to vouch for it. What does that say about your blind willingness to believe someone based on their resume or what they look like?
His name is Danny Penny BTW and he lives in Queens. His high school classmates in West Islip NY found him scary and unsettling.
Let's go over it again. This marine killed someone on the subway by placing him in a chokehold for fifteen minutes. Jordan Neely, a stranger to Danny Penny, is now dead, because Danny Penny decided to hurt and kill him. Danny Penny knew nothing of his track record, nothing of Jordan at all. He wasn't fighting a war when he did this, he was on the subway, and he wasn't being threatened.
Let's not pretend that just because someone served in the marines that they are walking six inches above the ground. Let's not pretend that for you, this isn't above race either.
Funny enough we both frequent a track and field website literally centered around the track records of athletes. Yet when it comes to track records of criminals you couldn’t care less.
There’s a broader problem at bay here that you’re well aware of. That man shouldn’t be allowed on public streets GIVEN his track record. He should be in jail or a mental hospital/home. He’s a ticking time bomb that already has a track record of committing violence.
Unless the marine was intentionally trying to kill this man there should be zero charges against him. Why? Because this Marine is a credible person given his track record and commitment of service to this country. So if he says I didn’t mean to kill him I was trying my best to restrain him - then I believe him. What I don’t believe is the rosy picture you’re painting around a person with a proven criminal track record.
Notice none of my posts have mentioned anything about race unlike what you’re alluding to in your above post?
Interesting the people we choose to "believe" and "forgive" vs the ones we think should be removed from society--either thrown in a "mental institution" or dead.
You don't have to mention race. You've already shown you have tremendous unfounded bias. You believe someone's integrity based on a decision to enlist in the marines. you know nothing of his track record, yet you are willing to vouch for it. What does that say about your blind willingness to believe someone based on their resume or what they look like?
His name is Danny Penny BTW and he lives in Queens. His high school classmates in West Islip NY found him scary and unsettling.
Let's go over it again. This marine killed someone on the subway by placing him in a chokehold for fifteen minutes. Jordan Neely, a stranger to Danny Penny, is now dead, because Danny Penny decided to hurt and kill him. Danny Penny knew nothing of his track record, nothing of Jordan at all. He wasn't fighting a war when he did this, he was on the subway, and he wasn't being threatened.
Let's not pretend that just because someone served in the marines that they are walking six inches above the ground. Let's not pretend that for you, this isn't above race either.
Since none of us knew either the marine or the deceased, we can only judge based on what we know. I know that typically marines are more respectable than career criminals. Hence, I will take their word at higher face value than that of a subway criminal.
No one is saying all marines are perfect citizens whose word is law. But relative to Jordan, I’ll take the words of Danny.
Here's how your Democratic run city, top to bottom, treats people. Don't start there but don't forget the BILLIONS OF $ -- nearly all unaccounted for, all without results -- that DeBlasio's wife supposedly spent on mental health programs.
If anything, btw, Blacks are overrepresented in government because gerrymandering to keep Latino and Asians at bay so it's not a "racial" issue per se.
Take a look at the cops in these pics also; how many "white" people do ya'll see?
We're bringing up his "long history of arrests" a lot as if that's justification for a stanger to come up to him and take his life away.
We did this to Trayvon Martin too when he was murdered, blabbering endlessly about what a "bad kid" he was because he smoked weed and whatnot. It's just a propaganda ploy. Who cares about his arrest record? Daniel Penny knew nothing about it when he took Jordan's life.
Also, I think a lot of people babbling incoherently about his arrest record probably have some skeletons in their closets too. What if you were judged by the worst thing(s) you ever did? Chances are you have also committed crimes that you have not been arrested for, but should have.
Gregg Berhalter was the head coach of the USMNT for the World Cup. Recently it was unearthed that as an 18 year old, he threw a woman to the ground and started beating her. he had to be pulled off by two strangers. Luckily no one strangled him to death for it, but according to you, it would probably be justified, since throwing someone to the ground and beating them qualifies as life threatening behavior.
Gregg didn't get arrested for actually physically hurting someone. In fact that person eventually married him and had a family with him.
All this to say you don't get to prattle on about someone's past incidents as justification for their life being taken away by a stranger. Penny had no right to make that decision for Jordan Neely. He doeesn't get to play god because Jordan had an arrest record.
Interesting the people we choose to "believe" and "forgive" vs the ones we think should be removed from society--either thrown in a "mental institution" or dead.
You don't have to mention race. You've already shown you have tremendous unfounded bias. You believe someone's integrity based on a decision to enlist in the marines. you know nothing of his track record, yet you are willing to vouch for it. What does that say about your blind willingness to believe someone based on their resume or what they look like?
His name is Danny Penny BTW and he lives in Queens. His high school classmates in West Islip NY found him scary and unsettling.
Let's go over it again. This marine killed someone on the subway by placing him in a chokehold for fifteen minutes. Jordan Neely, a stranger to Danny Penny, is now dead, because Danny Penny decided to hurt and kill him. Danny Penny knew nothing of his track record, nothing of Jordan at all. He wasn't fighting a war when he did this, he was on the subway, and he wasn't being threatened.
Let's not pretend that just because someone served in the marines that they are walking six inches above the ground. Let's not pretend that for you, this isn't above race either.
Since none of us knew either the marine or the deceased, we can only judge based on what we know. I know that typically marines are more respectable than career criminals. Hence, I will take their word at higher face value than that of a subway criminal.
No one is saying all marines are perfect citizens whose word is law. But relative to Jordan, I’ll take the words of Danny.
This is stupid. Veterans commit crimes all the time.
Just admit you'll take the word of the white guy, it's ridiculously transparent.
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