We changed the title. It was initially just titled, "Camel City Invite"
wiley coyote wrote:
Which metric do you prefer? Most Tuohy fans use whichever one suits them. Are you in favor of the fastest at a particular age? Then Tuohy is better than Schweizer but Cook is better than Tuohy.
I am fine with "fastest at age XXX" but to proclaim runner A is better or faster than runner B because they ran faster at one particular age seems like a incorrect use of the data, especially if one of the runners progressions was impacted by injury.
FastTuohy wrote:
I am fine with "fastest at age XXX" but to proclaim runner A is better or faster than runner B because they ran faster at one particular age seems like a incorrect use of the data, especially if one of the runners progressions was impacted by injury.
You Tuohy fans have excuses for everything
easy win for wiley wrote:
Wiley has the fastest seed, 4:27.7
I thought Starliper was in the 3k? Not listed on the start list now.
Shaw is back and in the mile, but not the elite heat.
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Tuohy continues to compete without getting tested.
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TSR review. Interesting they picked Tyynismaa to win the mile in 4:31 converted, Wiley to run 4:35 converted as the 4th place collegiate.
I agree that Tyynismaa could win, but Wiley has by far the fastest PR in the field so idk why they think she will be so much slower. I think she will be #1 or #2 collegiate.
Unfortunately that PR is based on "circumstances"and was never duplicated. The wild card is if those circumstances are recreated by her coaches. Based on her times in the 1500 and this season the TSR estimate is in the ball park, maybe a bit slow. But if the idea is consequences be damned, you can never quite tell.
Wiley's pr is misleading. It was last June in an all-comers meet with her coach pacing. Other than that 4:26 (2nd place 4:54), her second best time was 4:38. I predict she finishes in 4:40.
Hutchins makes her BYU debut in 3000 after 2 yr pause. I guess 9:20.
Masciarelli back from injury in the mile. She's more a 3k/5k runner, so I go w/ 4:45
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It’s ridiculous - I feel bad for the NAIA athletes on other teams. Haven’t football and basketball teams been declared ineligible for lesser infractions? This situation is much worse than recruiting violations. Just a total freak show.
How do you know that Tuohy isn't being tested? All NCAA D1 athletes are subject to random testing.
Yep. Then on top of that, even assuming that the NAIA cannot police itself, HU gets invited to an NCAA sanctioned event. The whole thing is sordid.
Wiley is 19, still a kid for me, so I give her benefit of the doubt. I'm just happy to see her in a real race. No different than being curious about Cook, Dudek, Barnett, Frias or hsers Riggs, Shea and Engelhardt.
Do you give the benefit to the people around her? Best thing for her is to extricate herself completely and go elsewhere with new coaches. But as long as she stays with the same coaches, the opprobrium goes with it.
Agree she may not be getting best advice, although parents may like close to home and full ride. There are posts circulating that she will xfer to D1 for soph yr. Assume it won't be cu.
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