The "they" in the thread title must refer to the Russians who supplied her with the banned substance.
When you say Russians do you mean the Russian authorities?
Strange you know that as such was excluded by the IOC in a press announcement at the start.
So please advise how you know this?
She was part of a Russian team coming from a country banned because of its flagrant disregard for anti-doping rules. She didn't get the drugs she used by herself.
When you say Russians do you mean the Russian authorities?
Strange you know that as such was excluded by the IOC in a press announcement at the start.
So please advise how you know this?
She was part of a Russian team coming from a country banned because of its flagrant disregard for anti-doping rules. She didn't get the drugs she used by herself.
1.So who gave her the drugs; her coach separately from the authorities or a combination or just the authorities?
2.If the latter are you surprised that no other Russian was positive in the high power and high endurance events?
3. To what degree are you inclined to believe that the drug in question was within her family environment?
The big question in all of this is how did CAS arrive at their ruling? She was allowed to compete as the arbitrators said not competing could cause her unspecified "irreparable harm." This ignores the harm caused to other athletes who have to compete against an athlete that failed a drug test and could be denied the pinnacle of their career, standing on an Olympic podium. It also ignores the harm caused by being the center of so much negative attention for days on end, then competing in the midst of that. It seems to me that the health of a teenager would have been better served by removing her from the bear pit. In any case, CAS made a bizarre decision with little reasoning. How many other athletes will, in future, point to the "irreparable harm" they could suffer by not competing while provisionally suspended? WADA should change regulations to prevent this from happening again.
The big question in all of this is how did CAS arrive at their ruling? She was allowed to compete as the arbitrators said not competing could cause her unspecified "irreparable harm." This ignores the harm caused to other athletes who have to compete against an athlete that failed a drug test and could be denied the pinnacle of their career, standing on an Olympic podium. It also ignores the harm caused by being the center of so much negative attention for days on end, then competing in the midst of that. It seems to me that the health of a teenager would have been better served by removing her from the bear pit. In any case, CAS made a bizarre decision with little reasoning. How many other athletes will, in future, point to the "irreparable harm" they could suffer by not competing while provisionally suspended? WADA should change regulations to prevent this from happening again.
Overriding principles of justice of fairness and proportionality trump Wada ; said the fully reasoned CAS decision.
You also have ignored the large element of a temporary injunction.
The big question in all of this is how did CAS arrive at their ruling?
She was allowed to compete as the arbitrators said not competing could cause her unspecified "irreparable harm."
This ignores the harm caused to other athletes who have to compete against an athlete that failed a drug test and could be denied the pinnacle of their career, standing on an Olympic podium.
CAS made a bizarre decision with little reasoning.
You obviously didn't read the entire CAS ruling carefully, because they did in fact address the issues you bring up, and they also explained their reasoning.
An issue that you didn't bring up was the Swedish lab taking way too long to process her drug test. If that lab had done it's job properly, this whole issue would have been resolved before the Olympics started.
She was part of a Russian team coming from a country banned because of its flagrant disregard for anti-doping rules. She didn't get the drugs she used by herself.
Your theory is that Russia runs a state-wide doping program and they doped Kamila. At first glance, that seems plausible. There's no way a 15-year old girl is able to figure out how to microdose at a low enough level not to get caught, but a high enough level to obtain performance benefits. But this theory has major problems.
1) There were 200 athletes in the Russian Federation. Every single one of them, except the curling athletes, would benefit far more from such an endurance drug. Why would they only dope with a figure skater?
2) If they were doping with everyone, why was Kamila the only to test positive? Everyone gets drug tested regularly. There aare years worth of negative test results. Thousands of negative samples. Only Kamila tested positive.
3) The banned drug TMZ was already present in her house on a daily basis. Seems like a awfully big coincidence that the only Russian athlete to test positive just so happened to have the banned substance in her household, along with her being the least likely athlete to benefit from it.
She was part of a Russian team coming from a country banned because of its flagrant disregard for anti-doping rules. She didn't get the drugs she used by herself.
1.So who gave her the drugs; her coach separately from the authorities or a combination or just the authorities?
2.If the latter are you surprised that no other Russian was positive in the high power and high endurance events?
3. To what degree are you inclined to believe that the drug in question was within her family environment?
She was part of a Russian team coming from a country banned because of its flagrant disregard for anti-doping rules. She didn't get the drugs she used by herself.
Your theory is that Russia runs a state-wide doping program and they doped Kamila. At first glance, that seems plausible. There's no way a 15-year old girl is able to figure out how to microdose at a low enough level not to get caught, but a high enough level to obtain performance benefits. But this theory has major problems.
1) There were 200 athletes in the Russian Federation. Every single one of them, except the curling athletes, would benefit far more from such an endurance drug. Why would they only dope with a figure skater?
2) If they were doping with everyone, why was Kamila the only to test positive? Everyone gets drug tested regularly. There aare years worth of negative test results. Thousands of negative samples. Only Kamila tested positive.
3) The banned drug TMZ was already present in her house on a daily basis. Seems like a awfully big coincidence that the only Russian athlete to test positive just so happened to have the banned substance in her household, along with her being the least likely athlete to benefit from it.
This does not add up.
seriously, this drug apology nonsense doesnt need replying to.
Your theory is that Russia runs a state-wide doping program and they doped Kamila. At first glance, that seems plausible. There's no way a 15-year old girl is able to figure out how to microdose at a low enough level not to get caught, but a high enough level to obtain performance benefits. But this theory has major problems.
1) There were 200 athletes in the Russian Federation. Every single one of them, except the curling athletes, would benefit far more from such an endurance drug. Why would they only dope with a figure skater?
2) If they were doping with everyone, why was Kamila the only to test positive? Everyone gets drug tested regularly. There aare years worth of negative test results. Thousands of negative samples. Only Kamila tested positive.
3) The banned drug TMZ was already present in her house on a daily basis. Seems like a awfully big coincidence that the only Russian athlete to test positive just so happened to have the banned substance in her household, along with her being the least likely athlete to benefit from it.
This does not add up.
seriously, this drug apology nonsense doesnt need replying to.
The strange thing is that this is exactly what the next hearing are going to consider.
But it would seem yet again that you are out of your depth and should just stop posting….forthwith.
seriously, this drug apology nonsense doesnt need replying to.
Different people handle defeat in different ways. You don't need to respond. We know your position. She tested positive, so she's guilty. End of story.
seriously, this drug apology nonsense doesnt need replying to.
Different people handle defeat in different ways. You don't need to respond. We know your position. She tested positive, so she's guilty. End of story.
Pupil has not read and seeks to insult to hide this.
She was part of a Russian team coming from a country banned because of its flagrant disregard for anti-doping rules. She didn't get the drugs she used by herself.
Your theory is that Russia runs a state-wide doping program and they doped Kamila. At first glance, that seems plausible. There's no way a 15-year old girl is able to figure out how to microdose at a low enough level not to get caught, but a high enough level to obtain performance benefits. But this theory has major problems.
1) There were 200 athletes in the Russian Federation. Every single one of them, except the curling athletes, would benefit far more from such an endurance drug. Why would they only dope with a figure skater?
2) If they were doping with everyone, why was Kamila the only to test positive? Everyone gets drug tested regularly. There aare years worth of negative test results. Thousands of negative samples. Only Kamila tested positive.
3) The banned drug TMZ was already present in her house on a daily basis. Seems like a awfully big coincidence that the only Russian athlete to test positive just so happened to have the banned substance in her household, along with her being the least likely athlete to benefit from it.
This does not add up.
ok, b4g, out of relative respect for your registered status;
1) the drug helps your cardiocascular system; this is a very high effort relatively sustained sport. probably many more are using and not got caught. you know most people dont get caught?
2) honestly, please, only doping apologists think that tests catch every doper every time.
3) almost as big a coincidence as a burrito? drug people manucfature tenuous excuses in advance to mollify their charges.
seriously, this is such low level trolling that i am very unlikely to reply again.
Your theory is that Russia runs a state-wide doping program and they doped Kamila. At first glance, that seems plausible. There's no way a 15-year old girl is able to figure out how to microdose at a low enough level not to get caught, but a high enough level to obtain performance benefits. But this theory has major problems.
1) There were 200 athletes in the Russian Federation. Every single one of them, except the curling athletes, would benefit far more from such an endurance drug. Why would they only dope with a figure skater?
2) If they were doping with everyone, why was Kamila the only to test positive? Everyone gets drug tested regularly. There aare years worth of negative test results. Thousands of negative samples. Only Kamila tested positive.
3) The banned drug TMZ was already present in her house on a daily basis. Seems like a awfully big coincidence that the only Russian athlete to test positive just so happened to have the banned substance in her household, along with her being the least likely athlete to benefit from it.
This does not add up.
ok, b4g, out of relative respect for your registered status;
1) the drug helps your cardiocascular system; this is a very high effort relatively sustained sport. probably many more are using and not got caught. you know most people dont get caught?
2) honestly, please, only doping apologists think that tests catch every doper every time.
3) almost as big a coincidence as a burrito? drug people manucfature tenuous excuses in advance to mollify their charges.
seriously, this is such low level trolling that i am very unlikely to reply again.
1. High effort ? Did you not watch the XC Ski ?
2. Whilst they don’t catch all they would catch some more.
3. The food “ excuse “ is detailed on the Wada Nandrolone TD doc as being that realistic they have special procedures to account for such.So you demonstrate you poor study skills and should indeed go away.
The strange thing is that this is exactly what the next hearing are going to consider.
But it would seem yet again that you are out of your depth and should just stop posting….forthwith.
more drug apology nonsense, with no substantiation, and this time from an unregistered poster, which requires even less replying too.
Substantiation is within the Wada documents and the CAS decisions.Out of you depth which would be no too bad if you bothered to take the help available.
She was part of a Russian team coming from a country banned because of its flagrant disregard for anti-doping rules. She didn't get the drugs she used by herself.
1.So who gave her the drugs; her coach separately from the authorities or a combination or just the authorities?
2.If the latter are you surprised that no other Russian was positive in the high power and high endurance events?
3. To what degree are you inclined to believe that the drug in question was within her family environment?
I don't care. She was given it by someone around her. Russian sport is dirty but not all dopers are caught.
Different people handle defeat in different ways. You don't need to respond. We know your position. She tested positive, so she's guilty. End of story.
Pupil has not read and seeks to insult to hide this.
Doping maniac Liar soorer back under another of his many unregistered names. The story is always recognizably the same.
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