Ridgemonter wrote:
https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.htmlImpaIa31 wrote:
Only it is.
Vaccine offers BETTER protection than infection. That’s what I said and that’s the article you posted
Biden and Trump agree, get the vaccine.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/trump-urges-all-americans-to-get-covid-vaccine-its-a-safe-vaccine
67 Track 29 wrote:
rojo wrote:
I've deleted this post but am responding to it to help teach people what is and isn't deleted and why. Feel free to criticize my article but you can't just call something or someone garbage. As I tell my 3 year old, we don't call people names.
Fell free to say it's a bad article but please provide a reason. Throwing out insults like racist/garbage, idiot, etc with supporting arguments isn't productive.
My article is backed by science. It appears to me you just emotionally don't like it but you have no factual response to it so you respond emotionally like a two-year-old.
All of these holier than thou people like yourself that are feeling smug since they got the vaccine don't want to admit they are being selfish as hundreds of millions of poor senior citizens around the globe aren't vaccinated.
This sounds like parenting 101: "you better eat your vegetables because there are starving children in Africa."
Cole H. not being vaccinated is not helping any vulnerable old people around the world. This is why your argument is garbage, Rojo.
Exactly!
If I was 20 I wouldn’t be vaxed but if I was the OT Champ and going to the games I would be sure to get vaxed.
Politics and health stuff aside he should be vaxed to ensure he won’t be a target of some 11th hour power play to remove a potential rival... Or at the very least have a lil card ready.
There’s no shortage of haters.
This is rich.
Lol. Goober who runs the site writes a article and presents it as being backed by science.
Article reads as if it was written by a 12 year old Trump supporter.
You can’t make this stuff up.
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rojo wrote:
My article is backed by science.
No, it’s not
Quote Post. wrote:
Ridgemonter wrote:
https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/why-covid-19-vaccines-offer-better-protection-than-infection.htmlVaccine offers BETTER protection than infection. That’s what I said and that’s the article you posted
Not in all cases
https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210719/Thai-study-looks-at-CoronaVac-vaccine-vs-natural-immunity-to-SARS-COV-2-variants.aspxjust saying... wrote:
Quote Post. wrote:
Vaccine offers BETTER protection than infection. That’s what I said and that’s the article you posted
Not in all cases
https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210719/Thai-study-looks-at-CoronaVac-vaccine-vs-natural-immunity-to-SARS-COV-2-variants.aspx
But in most cases yes, dumb ****
rojo wrote:
e h wrote:
Absolutely garbage article Rojo, I’m surprised you posted it.
I've deleted this post but am responding to it to help teach people what is and isn't deleted and why. Feel free to criticize my article but you can't just call something or someone garbage. As I tell my 3 year old, we don't call people names.
Fell free to say it's a bad article but please provide a reason. Throwing out insults like racist/garbage, idiot, etc with supporting arguments isn't productive.
My article is backed by science. It appears to me you just emotionally don't like it but you have no factual response to it so you respond emotionally like a two-year-old.
All of these holier than thou people like yourself that are feeling smug since they got the vaccine don't want to admit they are being selfish as hundreds of millions of poor senior citizens around the globe aren't vaccinated.
Your epidemiology is off.
You need to fight brute force (the overwhelming numbers of a respiratory virus) with the brute force of numbers. The pick and choose strategy (protect the old, everyone else can party) of infectious disease management hasn’t and won’t work with COVID 19.
We thought herd immunity would kick in at 70% levels of vaccination. The R6 of delta (6 new infections for every infection) has pushed that to 80 -90 %.
We missed the boat, or are in danger of missing, thanks to dudes like RoJo, who have suddenly become infectious disease epidemiologists. A vaccine is as much a collective treatment as an individual one. But we Americans have somehow forgotten the idea of collective action for the greater good.
The concepts of public health infectious disease prevention aren’t rocket science. Why all of a sudden people have decided to freak out and deny the power of collective vaccination is beyond me.
PolarBear3 wrote:
rojo wrote:
I've deleted this post but am responding to it to help teach people what is and isn't deleted and why. Feel free to criticize my article but you can't just call something or someone garbage. As I tell my 3 year old, we don't call people names.
Fell free to say it's a bad article but please provide a reason. Throwing out insults like racist/garbage, idiot, etc with supporting arguments isn't productive.
My article is backed by science. It appears to me you just emotionally don't like it but you have no factual response to it so you respond emotionally like a two-year-old.
All of these holier than thou people like yourself that are feeling smug since they got the vaccine don't want to admit they are being selfish as hundreds of millions of poor senior citizens around the globe aren't vaccinated.
Your epidemiology is off.
You need to fight brute force (the overwhelming numbers of a respiratory virus) with the brute force of numbers. The pick and choose strategy (protect the old, everyone else can party) of infectious disease management hasn’t and won’t work with COVID 19.
We thought herd immunity would kick in at 70% levels of vaccination. The R6 of delta (6 new infections for every infection) has pushed that to 80 -90 %.
We missed the boat, or are in danger of missing, thanks to dudes like RoJo, who have suddenly become infectious disease epidemiologists. A vaccine is as much a collective treatment as an individual one. But we Americans have somehow forgotten the idea of collective action for the greater good.
The concepts of public health infectious disease prevention aren’t rocket science. Why all of a sudden people have decided to freak out and deny the power of collective vaccination is beyond me.
+1
Rojos analysis is spot on here. Very logical points all the way through.
ad hocker teare list wrote:
Rojos analysis is spot on here. Very logical points all the way through.
yeah right
But Rojo will respond to your post “Yes I LOVE this post a TON”
Quote Post. wrote:
just saying... wrote:
Not in all cases
https://www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210719/Thai-study-looks-at-CoronaVac-vaccine-vs-natural-immunity-to-SARS-COV-2-variants.aspxBut in most cases yes, dumb ****
Nothing you said argues against what I said. If that is your reaction then you are part of a cult.
Jacobs wrote:
^THIS
The US has wasted thousands of vaccines because of oversupply/vaccine hesitancy. A few hundred Olympians arguing that they're not getting vaccinated to save vaccines for other countries is absurd.
Yes it is absurd and its more than a simple rationalization, I believe its an outright hypocritical lie. He is trying to make his selfish act look altruistic. He should just say he thought it would affect his performance. Instead he gives this load of crap. I can't believe some people believe him!
LOL! Rojo doesn’t understand epidemiology or the global networks that distribute vaccines. It’s not as simple as “You can have mine.” It IS as simple as a potential super-spreader event could expose vulnerable people thanks to athletes turning down the vaccine. Rojo’s arguments are tacky and without merit. But I probably shouldn’t criticize him since he’s an infectious disease and public health expert with all the schooling and experience that confers such expertise.
I think its about time to just put a general judgement on the owners of this website and group them in with the QAnon folk.
Lefty scum are triggered. Tell me Karl Marx sycophants, if you're vaccinated why do you care who isn't?
rojo wrote:
The vitriol that some of you showed to Cole Hocker was disgusting and lacking in any scientific basis.
It spurred me to write a column. There are HUNDREDS of Millions of elderly and vulnerable people across the globe that aren't vaccinated who need it much more.
https://www.letsrun.com/news/2021/07/im-pro-vaccine-but-if-we-follow-the-science-we-wouldnt-be-encouraging-olympic-track-stars-like-cole-hocker-to-be-vaccinated/I'm closing the old Hocker thread to comments.
I agree. It’s also his right as an American citizen to make his own choice. It’s not a mandate…
Chip Chipperson wrote:
Lefty scum are triggered. Tell me Karl Marx sycophants, if you're vaccinated why do you care who isn't?
For all of the reasons already mentioned, ****
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