I could not stick around all day, most of these people are incredibly slow, so I just have a bit of race video of unknown participant at Leon Creek Greenway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwdhz1Ip3Y4
Damning evidence. Video don't lie.
I could not stick around all day, most of these people are incredibly slow, so I just have a bit of race video of unknown participant at Leon Creek Greenway:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwdhz1Ip3Y4
Damning evidence. Video don't lie.
Terrie? Daniel? wrote:
Stalking is definitely weird. That would be considered finding her home, following her around at the grocery store... that is not relevant to cheating and no one cares.
Darren, et al. are pretty close to stalking territory. They followed PM, LM and bigfoot to a race in New York.
How did they know she was running that race if they aren't tracking her?
Darren is checking bigfoot's past results and his linked account. Darren has stated that he is trying to figure out where bigfoot lives. If it isn't stalking yet, it would certainly be considered obsessive.
You mentioned he followed them? Do you mean physically showed up at the race as a spectator or participant? Or are you saying that because he knew she ran that race?
It's not hard to find out who us running where and something lots of runners check on to determine what races they may or may not want to run in based in the competition.
Anybody who follows the links posted on here to linkedin accounts will show up in the persons linkedin account as having viewed the profile. So smart idea to post the links so they can see who's looking at their profiles. Not so smart to click on them if you are trying to stay anonymous. Clearly, Darren doesn't care because he had the guts to post his identity right out if the gate. That tells me he's the real deal and wants the truth to come out regardless of what people may say about him.
No one on this board is falling for this "stalking" talk. It doesn't work that way with a public record. You can't advertise your achievements, hold public events, try to get fame with a Guinness World Record, and then act offended that people show up to these public events. That's not the way it works with a public athletic event either.
If you don't want the scrutiny or if you feel it's unfair then have some accountability. If you're going to seek fame and published records for your races then you should expect people to monitor your events. You don't even wear a GPS watch. Athletic records are recorded on video now, with impartial media and officials, and the racers are probably even drug tested by an oversight committee such as the USATF. That's the reality of seeking a public record.
Are you for or against her. wrote:
Darren, et al. are pretty close to stalking territory. They followed PM, LM and bigfoot to a race in New York.
How did they know she was running that race if they aren't tracking her?
Darren is checking bigfoot's past results and his linked account. Darren has stated that he is trying to figure out where bigfoot lives. If it isn't stalking yet, it would certainly be considered obsessive.
After 63 pages Option 1 is still the preferred option.
Can you show us links to support your accusations?
Options wrote:
When you're caught and cornered you have four options:
1. Try and bluff your way out of it with diversionary tactics.
2. Threaten legal action.
3. Ignore it and hope it goes away.
4. Admit it.
Terrie? Daniel? wrote:
...her pacing is so perfect she ends at :00, :15, :45 on a regular basis.
http://www.arrs.net/MaraWin/MoayediParvaneh.htm
Funny that.
this weekend's course:
Marathon - 8 x 3.28 miles out and back. Half Marathon - 4 x 3.28 miles out and back. 50 mile - 15 x 3.34 miles out and back. 50K - 10 x 5K out and back. 10K - 2 X 5K out and back. 5K - 5K out and back.
I predict PM will be the RD, meet and greet all finishers, AND complete the marathon
i predict her time will be: 5:25:00 for the marathon
really her racing is her training so I think if she is pressed for time today as both a RD and a participant, then she is gonna do well, her shoes are broken in by Badwater, and it is her home course, so probably pulled along by the 'kenyans' to ....
4:45:00
prediction: 4:30 hours running 20 miles covered less allowance for 1 hour early start and adding 3.2 miles for time spent prior to race walking to mark the course. Net 3:55 personal best. Somedays you just have it.
4:46:01
I'm going with 6:00:01
She reads this thread, and I bet she starts adding seconds to her flat -even times to throw us off the trail!
I predict a DNS.
Nobody is flipping stalking you or anyone else Stevie boy. Now somebody is trying to figure out where you live? Lol. I doubt anyone cares to be near you, trust me. If you are going to flip crap out of your mouth back it up with facts.
A totally new person witnessed all you all cheating out east. Yes, another new person in this crazy journey. Nobody cares to travel and watch your traveling circus act. If you run out east, east coast runners are going to keep an eye on you. Same up north and out west. We all know thw south has been all over your cheating for a while.
Runners all over this country are on to you. Get use to it.
no update on race results yet? I want to know how that kenyan did! its a certified course, this might be a low key world record attempt!
How about an update from BW? Sounds like the RD is aware of the issue. Would be a shame and black eye to BW if nothing happens.
Note the difference with LT100 - there was a slight course issue there with the winner and the RD came out a few days later and explained what happened (and that no DQ was in order).
I followed this and was happy to see that the right decision was made. The RD said as a result of inadequate course markings, it caused the winner to run an additional mile that included significantly higher elevation, therefore, no unfair advantage in relation to the other competitors and upheld the results for 1st place winner!
RD at Badwater apparently doesn't feel the need to respond or reply to the allegations that were made by two runners and their crews regarding potential cheating at that event. That's unfortunate because the other participants and crews who honestly completed the race are being overshadowed by the allegations. So for now, one of the invited participants had allegedly cheated and continues to promote the event and accomplishments across cyberspace. The RD must not care about the credibility and integrity of this race to just ignore the matter. It shouldn't make a difference if it's the first place finisher or the last, the RD owes it to every participant to address the matter, make a decision, and put the matter to rest. Every person who participated and DNF'd, should be respected for not taking a shortcut or the easy way out as far as completing the course and if the allegations are indeed true, the RD should DQ the individual and address the matter instead of just burying his head in the sand as it looks like he is doing at this point.
Kudos to The LT100 RD wrote:
RD at Badwater apparently doesn't feel the need to respond or reply to the allegations that were made by two runners and their crews regarding potential cheating at that event. That's unfortunate because the other participants and crews who honestly completed the race are being overshadowed by the allegations. So for now, one of the invited participants had allegedly cheated and continues to promote the event and accomplishments across cyberspace. The RD must not care about the credibility and integrity of this race to just ignore the matter. It shouldn't make a difference if it's the first place finisher or the last, the RD owes it to every participant to address the matter, make a decision, and put the matter to rest. Every person who participated and DNF'd, should be respected for not taking a shortcut or the easy way out as far as completing the course and if the allegations are indeed true, the RD should DQ the individual and address the matter instead of just burying his head in the sand as it looks like he is doing at this point.
Well written. You should email this to the Badwater RD
Agree! I care more that justice is done here for all involved than whether or not PM ever publicly concedes. That is, I would be happy with a BW DQ (and very concerned if BW is silent on this).
Kudos to The LT100 RD wrote:
I followed this and was happy to see that the right decision was made. The RD said as a result of inadequate course markings, it caused the winner to run an additional mile that included significantly higher elevation, therefore, no unfair advantage in relation to the other competitors and upheld the results for 1st place winner!
RD at Badwater apparently doesn't feel the need to respond or reply to the allegations that were made by two runners and their crews regarding potential cheating at that event. That's unfortunate because the other participants and crews who honestly completed the race are being overshadowed by the allegations. So for now, one of the invited participants had allegedly cheated and continues to promote the event and accomplishments across cyberspace. The RD must not care about the credibility and integrity of this race to just ignore the matter. It shouldn't make a difference if it's the first place finisher or the last, the RD owes it to every participant to address the matter, make a decision, and put the matter to rest. Every person who participated and DNF'd, should be respected for not taking a shortcut or the easy way out as far as completing the course and if the allegations are indeed true, the RD should DQ the individual and address the matter instead of just burying his head in the sand as it looks like he is doing at this point.
One for Chris Kostman, Badwater Race Director: