Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

Trollminator wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I think this one is worth talking about:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/impeachment-trial-trump-testify/index.html

Good move by Dems. Not a publicity stunt IMO but more tactical to insert a wedge between trump and his lawyers. Dems know trump salivates at the idea of being in the spotlight, even if it means it could ruin him. During the Mueller investigation, trump argued fiercely with his lawyers to let him speak to Mueller. He really believes he can talk his way out and even turn the table. This will cause a nice distraction and conflict during this critical time of preparation.

Defendants in criminal trials decline to testify all the time and it's a non-issue. Trump doesn't want to testify and even if he did, a mock cross-examination would change his mind in a hurry. He is incapable of telling the truth and is barely coherent.

O.J. wanted to testify, but a mock cross-examination preformed at his jail, put an end to that possibility.

johnny99 wrote:

“The mob takes the Fifth,” Trump said at one campaign rally in September 2017. “If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

Trump's lawyers said he will not testify in a unconstitutional hearing.

Trollminator wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I think this one is worth talking about:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/impeachment-trial-trump-testify/index.html

Good move by Dems. Not a publicity stunt IMO but more tactical to insert a wedge between trump and his lawyers. Dems know trump salivates at the idea of being in the spotlight, even if it means it could ruin him. During the Mueller investigation, trump argued fiercely with his lawyers to let him speak to Mueller. He really believes he can talk his way out and even turn the table. This will cause a nice distraction and conflict during this critical time of preparation.

He just might be dumb enough to testify. It's a long shot, but it could happen. The ratings would be astronomical.

Trollminator wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

He won't testify. He is incaple of doing so and it would be like throwing someone overboard that can't swim.

The letter to Trump is mild in nature and is more of an invitation than a request.

Wait can’t they actually subpoena him? Of course he’ll plead the 5th but it would be beautiful to watch him itching to spew lies under oath.

He could claim he was immune from prosecution while he was president and therefore immune from anything he did as president for life. No president, current or former, can be impeached ... ever! This is the fabled get-out-of-jail-free forever Trump card.

Fat hurts wrote:

He just might be dumb enough to testify. It's a long shot, but it could happen. The ratings would be astronomical.

He would agree 110% only if it was televised and he had 110% control of the mike. Same result as the first debate when he walked all over Chris Wallace.

Even when Trump was under oath with the Mueller investigation; he lied twice with his written answers!

One had to do with knowing with Roger Stone when the Russians were releasing the Wikileaks info !

Trollminator wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

I think this one is worth talking about:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/04/politics/impeachment-trial-trump-testify/index.html

Good move by Dems. Not a publicity stunt IMO but more tactical to insert a wedge between trump and his lawyers. Dems know trump salivates at the idea of being in the spotlight, even if it means it could ruin him. During the Mueller investigation, trump argued fiercely with his lawyers to let him speak to Mueller. He really believes he can talk his way out and even turn the table. This will cause a nice distraction and conflict during this critical time of preparation.

nah it's a publicity stunt. Trump knows he can't go under oath on anything in public. He went under oath once before and admitted that in public he lies about everything. He admitted he makes up valuations and moves them around according to what he needs at the time.

Trump going on the stand would be seriously stupid. He knows better. Mob bosses know how to stay out of trouble.

already shot down:

NYT:

Live Updates: Trump Won’t Testify at His Impeachment Trial Despite Request, His Lawyers Say

The House impeachment managers asked former President Donald J. Trump to testify in the trial, but his legal team wasted little time in refusing the invitation. The House is set to vote this evening on removing Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committee assignments.

agip wrote:

The House is set to vote this evening on removing Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committee assignments.

Voting now. I'm with you agip. This precedent makes me very uncomfortable.

When the president lies it isn't a lie.

Speed over 60 wrote:

Even when Trump was under oath with the Mueller investigation; he lied twice with his written answers!

One had to do with knowing with Roger Stone when the Russians were releasing the Wikileaks info !

Fat hurts wrote:

agip wrote:

The House is set to vote this evening on removing Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committee assignments.

Voting now. I'm with you agip. This precedent makes me very uncomfortable.

And so far 2 Republicans have voted "yea". I'm surprised.

Fat hurts wrote:

agip wrote:

The House is set to vote this evening on removing Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene from her committee assignments.

Voting now. I'm with you agip. This precedent makes me very uncomfortable.

Why?

According this article, Trump lied about believing there was election fraud:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/trump-didnt-believe-election-lies-impeachment-trial.amp

I don't agree. He wouldn't have pushed it as far as he did, if he didn't truly believe it was impossible for him to lose a fair election.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

According this article, Trump lied about believing there was election fraud:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/trump-didnt-believe-election-lies-impeachment-trial.amp

I don't agree. He wouldn't have pushed it as far as he did, if he didn't truly believe it was impossible for him to lose a fair election.

Many have said the same thing as you. But this is not at all clear to me.

Maybe he believes the nonsense. Maybe he knows full well it all a bunch of lies. I do not consider it any evidence either way that he "pushed it as far as he did."

I am Sam wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Voting now. I'm with you agip. This precedent makes me very uncomfortable.

Why?

Agree that she needs to be removed from committees. Republicans were up in arms when Al Frankin pretended to grab a sleeping woman's breasts because it upset the woman and made her feel abused. Yet, MTG called for the assassination of democrats, insulted Jewish people, insists on endangering congress people by refusing to wear a mask when they are around, and wants to carry a load gun into meetings. And, she can't be removed because she did mean any of that. That line of excuse certainly did not work for Al Franken, get got ousted, and Rs cheered.

"Although Franken had asked to be allowed to appear before the Senate Ethics Committee to give his side of the story, on December 6 Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer told him he had to announce his resignation by five o’clock or he could be censured and stripped of committee assignments."

1101 wrote:

SDSU Aztec wrote:

According this article, Trump lied about believing there was election fraud:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/trump-didnt-believe-election-lies-impeachment-trial.amp

I don't agree. He wouldn't have pushed it as far as he did, if he didn't truly believe it was impossible for him to lose a fair election.

Many have said the same thing as you. But this is not at all clear to me.

Maybe he believes the nonsense. Maybe he knows full well it all a bunch of lies. I do not consider it any evidence either way that he "pushed it as far as he did."

When a bully loses a fight they sometimes bring along helpers to hold the winner during a 2nd match. That is all Trump is doing with his childish attempt to overthrow the election. He knows he lost but that won't stop him from trying to win by cheating in the 2nd match.

But but our ratings ?

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fox-news-viewership-down-double-222938711.html

I suppose the argument to kick her off committees is

1) Dems need to stop letting their fear of the Rs dictate their actions

2) A member threatening the life of other reps is across the line and shall not be tolerated

3) A warning to the next evil rep.