Official LRC President Donald J Trump Thread

oh come now wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

Infrastructure changes would not be needed. Human drivers will not be allowed on the freeway. If you are on the highway you must have autopilot engaged. A robotaxi can easily manage at that speed and do it much more safely than humans currently drive at 70mph.

The technology will be in the cars rather than in the roads. Roads won't need to change much.

You cannot be serious; that is just laughable on so many levels. Hell, forget about the roads for a second, how about the vagaries of weather? If I'm flying from say NY to LA, doesn't matter if there is a blizzard over the rocky mountains; but in a land vehicle? Then it does matter. You ever driven from Denver to Grand Junction CO for example? You telling me you're going to have cars going through there at triple digit speeds even in clear weather, let alone a blizzard? Even on long relatively straight/flat stretches of road, say Nebraska for example; long stretches of bumps, freeze/thaw upheaval, potholes, etc. Something easily navigable at 80mph would send you airborne or straight off the road at 250+. How about deer and other large animals crossing the roads?

I'm not going to say it's impossible; certainly something like the autobahn in Europe facilitates high speed travel relative to what is possible here in the US, but the type of construction used to build the roads, and the quality and expediency of maintenance are completely different from that used here. There is no way anything like what you are positing is going to be possible without massive infrastructure upgrades.

Fat hurts wrote:

oh come now wrote:

You cannot be serious; that is just laughable on so many levels. Hell, forget about the roads for a second, how about the vagaries of weather? If I'm flying from say NY to LA, doesn't matter if there is a blizzard over the rocky mountains; but in a land vehicle? Then it does matter. You ever driven from Denver to Grand Junction CO for example? You telling me you're going to have cars going through there at triple digit speeds even in clear weather, let alone a blizzard? Even on long relatively straight/flat stretches of road, say Nebraska for example; long stretches of bumps, freeze/thaw upheaval, potholes, etc. Something easily navigable at 80mph would send you airborne or straight off the road at 250+. How about deer and other large animals crossing the roads?

I'm not going to say it's impossible; certainly something like the autobahn in Europe facilitates high speed travel relative to what is possible here in the US, but the type of construction used to build the roads, and the quality and expediency of maintenance are completely different from that used here. There is no way anything like what you are positing is going to be possible without massive infrastructure upgrades.

Inclement weather will cause the system to slow down, obviously.

Ever wonder why you almost never see dead animals on the interstate compared to side roads?

That's because interstates are usually protected with fencing. So a high speed interstate system might need more and better fencing, but that's not a big issue. When roadkill does happen on the interstate it is quickly reported and removed. We already know how to deal with that problem quite effectively.

And when there are road hazards they will be quickly identified and reported using a system similar to how Waze does it today. The difference is that every high-speed robotaxi will always report every hazard and potential hazard it sees. So all cars know about it immediately.

Plus a robotaxi is far faster at seeing and reacting to hazards in general.

Overall, the system will be at least two to three times safer than a human driver going 70mph.

Marietta Tar Heel wrote:

Ever wonder why you almost never see dead animals on the interstate compared to side roads?

Never see roadkill on the Interstate? I guess you've never driver through Wyoming, Montana, Colorado, etc. Lots of large, dead animals.

So a high speed interstate system might need more and better fencing, but that's not a big issue.

Not a big issue. Only about 50K miles of just interstates (160K of NHS) to build fencing around. 100K miles (320K for NHS) if you want it on both sides. We'll get Trump right on it.

Plus, with improved fencing, the environmentalists are going to go nuts about not letting animals migrate/move along 320,000 miles of freeway.

When roadkill does happen on the interstate it is quickly reported and removed.

I assume by an army of robots in rural Wyoming?

And when there are road hazards they will be quickly identified and reported using a system similar to how Waze does it today.

So, after the first robotaxi goes sliding off the highway at 300mph into the improved wall, all the other ones will know. Got it.

Plus a robotaxi is far faster at seeing and reacting to hazards in general.

Do you understand what the braking distance needed for a vehicle traveling 300mph is even if the reaction time is 0?

Human drivers will not be allowed on the freeway.

This is perhaps the most foolish part. You're going to rid the freeways of human drivers in 10 years? Ludicrous.

You think there is uproar from people thinking the government is going to take away their guns? Wait until they think the government is going to take away their cars or not allow them to drive on the highways.

You greatly underestimate the infrastructure needed.

You greatly underestimate the timeline needed.

And even with all these pie-in-the-sky dreams, you still can't get me from ATL to LA nearly as fast as commercial air travel.

Fat hurts wrote:

Marietta Tar Heel wrote:

Ever wonder why you almost never see dead animals on the interstate compared to side roads?

Never see roadkill on the Interstate? I guess you've never driver through Wyoming, Montana, Colorado, etc. Lots of large, dead animals.

So a high speed interstate system might need more and better fencing, but that's not a big issue.

Not a big issue. Only about 50K miles of just interstates (160K of NHS) to build fencing around. 100K miles (320K for NHS) if you want it on both sides. We'll get Trump right on it.

Plus, with improved fencing, the environmentalists are going to go nuts about not letting animals migrate/move along 320,000 miles of freeway.

When roadkill does happen on the interstate it is quickly reported and removed.

I assume by an army of robots in rural Wyoming?

And when there are road hazards they will be quickly identified and reported using a system similar to how Waze does it today.

So, after the first robotaxi goes sliding off the highway at 300mph into the improved wall, all the other ones will know. Got it.

Plus a robotaxi is far faster at seeing and reacting to hazards in general.

Do you understand what the braking distance needed for a vehicle traveling 300mph is even if the reaction time is 0?

Human drivers will not be allowed on the freeway.

This is perhaps the most foolish part. You're going to rid the freeways of human drivers in 10 years? Ludicrous.

You think there is uproar from people thinking the government is going to take away their guns? Wait until they think the government is going to take away their cars or not allow them to drive on the highways.

You greatly underestimate the infrastructure needed.

You greatly underestimate the timeline needed.

And even with all these pie-in-the-sky dreams, you still can't get me from ATL to LA nearly as fast as commercial air travel.

In ten years there will be a major push to keep human drivers off the interstates or at least in the slow lane. All new cars will be able to drive themselves anyway, so most people won't have a problem with it.

Most accidents are caused by driver error. There are 6 million accidents per year in the US and 38,000 people die every year on our roads. The NHTSA tells us that 94% to 96% of accidents are caused by human error.

The robotaxis will be so much better at driving that it will cut accidents by an order of magnitude, even at high speeds.

All your fears about animals and other road hazards are overblown. We had the same fears when interstates were first built, but society accepted the risk in exchange for ease of travel. The same will happen here but with even greater safety.

As for planes versus high speed robotaxis, the plane will get you there faster for a long haul flight. But shorter trips will actually be faster in the robotaxi because you don't have to deal with airports. The market will decide whether people prefer a slightly longer journey in a private car or being crammed into an airplane to get there a few hours faster.

When I go from Atlanta to LA, I'll prefer to make the trip overnight while I sleep in a comfortable bed. And the cost will be cut in half. If I'm with my family the cost savings will be even larger and we will all travel with far greater comfort than on a plane.

Airlines are in trouble.