So was Iowa rigged as the Dem establishment didn't want people to realize Bernie Sanders kicked ass?

Nevada is showing Biden and Bernie essentially tied, Bernie just surged in Calif and in South Carolina, and according to the NY Times, it looks like Tom Steyer is starting to eat Creepy Uncle Joe Biden's Pony Soldier lunch. What a world.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-d/nevada/

Why are there still people who just don't get that

1) yes, the Dem primary process is rigged

2) Sanders is in on it.

He knows he's a straw man, his job is to go around yelling (falsely) "I'm a socialist" and turn millions of wannabe socialists into Dem voters. Politicians are liars.

When he loses, he'll turn around (pivot, as the pundits call the shameless act) and tell you to vote against the Republicans in spite of everything, just like last time.

rojo wrote:

Ernest wrote:

IOWA caucus results with "99% reporting" :

Candidate Delegates Share Count

Pete Buttigieg 13 26.2% 564

Bernie Sanders 12 26.1% 562

Elizabeth Warren 8 18% 387

Joe Biden 6 15.8% 341

So I guess what was happening was I was seeing the delegate count before and now am seeing the total vote count. So funny. Many dems can't stand the electoral college in recent years and now it's popping up at the state level. Here is the vote counts.

1st Round 2nd Round

Sanders 43,671 24.8 45,826 26.6 562 12

Buttigieg 37,557 21.3 43,195 25.0 564 13

So Sanders got 16.2% more votes than Buttigieg in the 1st round and somehow lost the delegate count?

This is staggering, Sanders is totally being shafted (again).

And the hardcore of Sanders voters will go Green and Trump will win again, probably more comfortably.

Good call on the contested convention, that is looking a certainty.

Ciro wrote:

wow wow wrote:

24/7 entertainment watching dems screw up.

Holy sh!t, all of the following are behind bars:

Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, George P, Rick Gates, Duncan Hunter....

Now THAT’s screwing up.

Trump Acquitted

Kvothe wrote:

the democratic party establishment is basically conservatives. Moderate middle of the road conservatives with some money. They are only democrat because the gop has gone so far off the deep end. These people are scared of liberals and terrified of socialists. Bernie represents them having to pay taxes and maybe not buy a new tesla next year.

HAHAHA!

Wait? You're serious?

Yes but I was responding a poster who mocked Democrats for screwing up by pointing out that many Republicans have fvcked up a lot worse. To the point that they are now behind bars.

Try to keep up, it’s not always about Trump, although a connection between those behind bars and DT could certainly be made.

Ciro wrote:

wow wow wrote:

24/7 entertainment watching dems screw up.

Holy sh!t, all of the following are behind bars:

Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, George P, Rick Gates, Duncan Hunter....

Now THAT’s screwing up.

I have to agree with you. Republicans are just as bad as the Democrats.

Subway Surfers wrote:

fisky wrote:

Iowa has 41 pledged and 8 unpledged delegates. It looks like Bernie will get 12 out of 41. As long as Biden, Warren, and Pete stay in the race, they'll keep Sanders below 50% in delegates.

Polls show Biden ahead in Nevada and South Carolina. He's second to Sanders in California. Unless Biden implodes, he's and Pete are going to keep Sanders below 50% in pledged delegates by the DNC convention.

Once it goes to the 2nd ballot at the convention, Sanders is toast.

And the hardcore of Sanders voters will go Green and Trump will win again, probably more comfortably.

Good call on the contested convention, that is looking a certainty.

The big question is whether Warren will drop out before Super Tuesday and back Bernie or Klobuchar. Warren's internal folks have been saying leading up to the primary that the weaker of the two in the early primary results will need to drop out and throw their support to the stronger to avoid a centrist like Biden or Bloomberg from winning. No one thought that Klobuchar would be competitive back then. So, Warren could throw a wrench in to it by dropping out and teaming up with Klobuchar (VP spot seems likely to have an all female ticket).

But it may not matter at all if Bernie can capitalize on states with more minorities and younger voters. Klobuchar is about negative 10% with minorities. Biden is sinking in the polls and his minority backers will not be going to Warren, Buttigieg or Klobuchar. They will either vote for Bernie, Bloomberg or sit it out.

So, after super Tuesday, Bernie could have a big haul from California and we could see Warren and Biden drop out. That would set up Bernie for a strong plurality at the convention if not an all out win. If it goes to a second ballot at the convention and the nomination is taken from Bernie, that will be the end of the Democratic party. If Bernie has a very weak plurality, it will be a circus at the convention as there will definitely be an effort to take the nomination away from him. Bloomberg's sole reason for being in the race is to collect delegates and send them to whoever is the 2nd place moderate at the convention to try to keep Bernie out.

Precious Roy wrote:

Warren could throw a wrench in to it by dropping out and teaming up with Klobuchar (VP spot seems likely to have an all female ticket).

That would set up Bernie for a strong plurality at the convention if not an all out win. If it goes to a second ballot at the convention and the nomination is taken from Bernie, that will be the end of the Democratic party. If Bernie has a very weak plurality, it will be a circus at the convention as there will definitely be an effort to take the nomination away from him.

It's hard to take a nomination away from someone who never earned it in the first place.

Also, two women on the ticket? Fat chance. Also I'd be shocked if Warren accepted a VP spot, but I could be wrong.

Warren: "Whoops, I set up Klobuchar, and now she's ahead of me."

Warren doesn't seem to have a path forward. She can't beat Bernie, there isn't room for two progressives.