Is BYU at Risk of Budget Cuts?

Bring ‘em Young wrote:

If the Mormon Church is forced to pay taxes on its $100 billion investments, is BYU’s cross country budget going to take a hit?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/mormon-church-has-misled-members-on-100-billion-tax-exempt-investment-fund-whistleblower-alleges/2019/12/16/e3619bd2-2004-11ea-86f3-3b5019d451db_story.html

Zero risk because tithing does not pay for a penny of athletics at BYU. BYU athletics are paid for fully by football/basketball ticket sales and Cougar Club. Interesting to note that BYU does not pull any money from student's tuition for athletics and is also one of the very few schools that opperates in the green. Nothing to see here, move on.

Purity had nothing to do with the temple ceremonies Joseph Smith created. Joseph Smith created Mormon temple ceremonies so he could secretly marry multiple women. Only those that accepted polygamy were originally allowed to participate. His original (and only legal) wife Emma wasn’t allowed to be sealed to him until she agreed to the practice of polygamy. That’s why Joseph was sealed to 22 women before he and Emma were sealed.

10% of your income is a pretty steep admission price. You can learn all of the secret handshakes and tokens for free by googling Mason handshakes. Joseph Smith was a Mason before he created the temple ceremonies, and he took the handshakes directly from the Masons.

You sure are a bitter person. Worthiness definitely was a requirement and still is.

A shame the response here is simply to circle the wagons and claim that vast wealth controlled by the LDS leadership is is defensible morally.

Look, it's Oooooh Noooo, Why Won't Anyone Believe My Sad and Shocking Story of Mormon Perfidy back for more.

The reason I don't take your claims seriously, apart from the usual contradictions, is that you're unwilling to extend the same courtesy to the Mormons you're slandering.

At one point in the early 20th century it made sense for the church to have a life insurance company. Eventually it didn't, so it stopped offering new policies, and made financial arrangements to cover existing policies instead of leaving people uncovered. Please explain how any of this is improper. Oh, that's right, you can't, because you don't actually know anything about the business climate of early 20th century Utah. You're just repeating something that sounded sexy on reddit. Please go back to your friends on reddit, bearing the sad message that the BYU men's XC team just stomped on the NCAA competition this year and may be even better next year.

The church didn't "purchase a mall." The City Creek development project - which anybody with a brain would recognize as a major urban renewal project for a downtown area in danger of blight - was just a few years ago and everyone knew about it at the time. The church said it was using investment income, not tithing funds. Salt Lake City is a lot better off for it. So, the church spruces up your city in a big way, and you're outraged. Typical ex-Mormon. If the church bought you a new car, you'd be outraged about the CO2 emissions and lack of leather seats and wail about how Mormons are cheapskates who are taught to hate the environment.

Your refusal to believe that the Mormon church enforced its tithing policy on my father in law, the explanation of why the Mormon Church created a life insurance company, and the economic development of Salt Lake City doesn’t change the fact that the Mormon Church is lying when it says it only invests its “pennies” and it’s not in the for-profit business. It also doesn’t change the fact that it used over a billion dollars of its tax exempt investment portfolio to purchase a mall.

Here’s a link to a video showing the Mormon Church leaders cutting the ribbon to open City Creek Mall. The mall should use the video as an ad campaign to encourage Mormons to shop more.

It happens every year. I gotta buy Xmas gifts for my three jealous wives and not have any of 'em feel slighted.

Three Pelotons don't seem right.

Suggestions?

I'm running out of time (and money.)

unpressedented wrote:

If the church bought you a new car, you'd be outraged about the CO2 emissions and lack of leather seats and wail about how Mormons are cheapskates who are taught to hate the environment.

If the Mormon Church bought me a car, it would be a model that was 50+ years outdated, women would always have to take the back seat, anyone LGTBQ wouldn’t be allowed in the car unless they pretended like they were someone other than their true selves, and the radio would only play Michael McClain. I would also be worried that the IRS would seize the car because it would’ve been purchased with money from a tax exempt investment fund. The Mormon church can keep its car.

The use of the word "pennies" wasn't litteral. You don't understand that?

I learned a long time ago to not take anything that the Mormon Church says literal. The whole purpose of the article was to downplay how wealthy the church is and to praise themselves for how much good they do with their money. The truth is, if they were to say that they give their pennies to humanitarian efforts, they would be grossly overstating how much they contribute to humanitarian aid.

Snow wrote:

You will be denied sacraments, church membership, entry into the temple. Tithing is by far the most important part of being LDS.

They won't revoke your church membership. They want to keep the numbers up. Even when they say they have 16.xxx million members keep in mind only about 40% have anything to do with the actual church. They definitely won't excommunicate you for not paying your tithing.

blamb61 wrote:

BYU undergrad program ranked number 2 in the nation (2020) by US News and World Report

BYU masters in accountancy ranked #3 in the nation for "most admired" in 2017 by "Public Accounting Report".

Ranked #1 (Best Trained Candidates) in 2019 by Bloomberg Business Week.

Most grads would be LDS church members. You don't get those kind of rankings for taking care of money by being a crook!

https://marriottschool.byu.edu/news/rankings/

Most grads? Try something more like 99.5% of the grads are LDS. Yes, the BYU accounting programs are very highly rated. When it comes to doing the dirty work in business, they get others to do that.

How has this thread not been taken down by letsrun? They just posted their posting rules, yet nothing has been done about it. See the rule below:

b) Hateful conduct: Posts that threaten, or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, or disability will be removed.

Even with this rule being stated, you'd think that around the Christmas time people would show a little more kindness and understanding of others rather than spite and prejudice. Who cares who is right? For both sides, y'all need to take a look inside yourself and figure out what is causing so much anger and start working on that rather than trying to tear others down.

Bring ‘em Young wrote:If the Mormon Church is forced to pay taxes on its $100 billion investments, is BYU’s cross country budget going to take a hit?

The golden rule wrote:

How has this thread not been taken down by letsrun? They just posted their posting rules, yet nothing has been done about it. See the rule below:

b) Hateful conduct: Posts that threaten, or harass other people on the basis of race, ethnicity, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, religious affiliation, age, or disability will be removed.

Even with this rule being stated, you'd think that around the Christmas time people would show a little more kindness and understanding of others rather than spite and prejudice. Who cares who is right? For both sides, y'all need to take a look inside yourself and figure out what is causing so much anger and start working on that rather than trying to tear others down.

I've quoted the posting rules several times on several posts but don't see any action. I don't want to see whole threads taken down but individual posts should be deleted according to the rules that says they will be deleted. Asking questions about how we can justify things about the Church would be fine with me but outright very derogatory statements are not appropriate. I've tried to not be snide and think I've done a fairly good job of it. Not easy that is for sure. I wish those who hate the Church the best as well as everyone else and hope we can all be civil.

mormon "church" is remarkably similar to ISIS:

controlled by old polygamist men

hate women

hate Jesus

hate Christians

hate Jews

hate America

don't use the Bible but use their own little book of stories

won't disclose where their money comes from or where it goes

their leaders never served in the US armed forces

want to completely control desert regions

This post has nothing to do with religion, the same as mormonism, but ISIS at least has a semi-religious basis.

Also, I can't find anywhere that ISIS hates blacks or discriminates against them, both of which are absolutely true of LDS.