I think Eric Senseman is doing a good job with his commentary as well. Really helpful to have a current world class ultra runner weighing in (as well as one of Jim's good friends and teammates)
I think Eric Senseman is doing a good job with his commentary as well. Really helpful to have a current world class ultra runner weighing in (as well as one of Jim's good friends and teammates)
3 times now, things falling out of Andrews back pocket? Pacer went back to pick it up?
Really impressed by the event organization, but the pacers have done silly mistakes, one guy missed nutrition at an aid station and another dropped his water bottle.
Andrews probably not used to 'packing' for a race. And agreed on the commentating. Was expecting the worst. V watchable. They even had a replay right after Andrews dropped his gel or whatever. Giving weather updates, splits....
Both sides of who’s mouth? wrote:
Pretty interesting that Hoka has built this event around a thick soft shoe with a full carbon plate but so far Rojo has offered up zero commentary on whether or not such a type of shoe is totally fine for record purposes or if it’s actually cheating.
Rojo has often claimed his job is to ask the questions. But it looks like all you have to do is throw some cash at him and he’ll embrace your shoes and event with no questions asked.
Somebody should remind Nike to click the Letsrun Donation button before their next event.
Rojo isn’t here. The Nike shoes are allowed. No one has suggested kipchoges be dqd. Our concern is with iaaf enforcing the rules and runners racing in prototypes not available to public.
Dropped caffeine, not a gel. Haven't read one study that disputes the benefit. A performance enhancer for sure. I speak from experience also....
1h28:25 for T. Andrews at 25k (5h53:40 pace)
Here is tracking https://track.rtrt.me/e/CRRM-HOKA100K-2019
35 minute 10k for a masters guy from Jersey? Is that the best they could do? There have to be a dozen masters guys faster than that in central Cal.
Andrew through 30k in 1:46.
5h53:28 pace at 30k
Even a camera guy wears Carbon Xs ?
Well, I was attempting to address just this instance to stick with the thread’s theme, but since you brought it up...are you concerned about: -Desi’s shoes when she won Boston last year? -Emma Bates’ shoes from NY last year? -Jared Ward’s marathon shoes this year? -the Brooks-Hanson’s Boston shoes this year (and last)? -(insert the shoes of many other pros regardless of brand here) Maybe I’m wrong, but just seems like you guys have an axe to grind with one brand rather than showing concern with what’s really happening out there. Or it’s a money thing. Who knows?
wejo wrote:
Rojo isn’t here. The Nike shoes are allowed. No one has suggested kipchoges be dqd. Our concern is with iaaf enforcing the rules and runners racing in prototypes not available to public.
Both sides of who’s mouth? wrote:
Well, I was attempting to address just this instance to stick with the thread’s theme, but since you brought it up...are you concerned about:
-Desi’s shoes when she won Boston last year?
-Emma Bates’ shoes from NY last year?
-Jared Ward’s marathon shoes this year?
-the Brooks-Hanson’s Boston shoes this year (and last)?
-(insert the shoes of many other pros regardless of brand here)
Maybe I’m wrong, but just seems like you guys have an axe to grind with one brand rather than showing concern with what’s really happening out there. Or it’s a money thing. Who knows?
wejo wrote:
Rojo isn’t here. The Nike shoes are allowed. No one has suggested kipchoges be dqd. Our concern is with iaaf enforcing the rules and runners racing in prototypes not available to public.
Literally the best reply ever! I want to print it out and stuff it down the spunk drenched throat of the zoom zoom zoom idiot!
We refer to them as ‘cheaters shoes affectionately ‘ . I don’t know about Emma bates shoes. I have more problem with an athlete racing in a non commercially available shoe than a shoe like the vaporfly.
But that brings up a point. This carbon x is not commercially available yet and neither was the shoe kipchoge wore in London. The iaaf needs to enforce rule and make it so an athlete is not winning because they are running in a shoe no one else could have.
Onay One! wrote:
35 minute 10k for a masters guy from Jersey? Is that the best they could do? There have to be a dozen masters guys faster than that in central Cal.
He's a shoe salesman who sells Hokas. That's why he's here, nothing to do with whether he is an elite or not.
wejo wrote:
We refer to them as ‘cheaters shoes affectionately ‘ . I don’t know about Emma bates shoes. I have more problem with an athlete racing in a non commercially available shoe than a shoe like the vaporfly.
But that brings up a point. This carbon x is not commercially available yet and neither was the shoe kipchoge wore in London. The iaaf needs to enforce rule and make it so an athlete is not winning because they are running in a shoe no one else could have.
No one in today's race is at a disadvantage from the carbon x not being commercially available. Everyone in today's race is wearing them.
Andrew's pacer throwing up! The poor guy is doing a fartlek!
Honestly, I'm very impressed with this event so far. I wasn't expecting this level of production quality so that's been a pleasant surprise. The commentators are doing a real solid job of keeping things interesting too (no small feat for something this long).
I had planned on maybe checking in for a few minutes and then coming back every few hours or so but here I am, still watching 50 minutes later. Regardless of what you may think of ultras, carbon plated shoes or even Hoka for that matter, this is good for the sport of running.
Nice job Hoka.