Is it desirable to train myself to run with my feet flexed (ankles at acute angles)?

Jon Orange wrote:

One day you will understand. Just like back in Anquetil's day he absolutely believed that to win the Tour de France he had to take methamphetamine, and that anyone who said otherwise had no idea what they were talking about.

He was wrong. It was just something that people believed back then.

that class of substances only temporarily works on the neurotransmitters . . . modafanil is likely a better choice now for the effects on heart rate and length of action

EPO has a much greater impact on endurance performance.

if it was so useless, don't you think that all the governing bodies would just stop testing for it and initiating these long investigations?

if it was so useless, why would scientists publish peer reviewed articles concluding that it can improve performance in healthy people.

I'll tell you the answer:

you lose.

Am I arguing with a 15 year old?

Jon Orange wrote:

Let me tell you something I haven't said before. I figured out when I was about 9 years old that adults had a rather naive belief in drugs and a lack of belief in their own body's ability to repair itself.

No I am arguing with a 9 year old.

You are simply repeating "beliefs" without a grain of science based on your thoughts from the age of 9.

Ironic that you call others childish junior.

Jon Orange wrote:

Am I arguing with a 15 year old?

Yes, but your perspective is that of a 9 year old so it's understandable that you're a bit flummoxed.

Jon, can you link us to one of your articles that you wrote to blow the roof off the "EPO works myth"?

Thanks.

test2 wrote:

Jon Orange wrote:

Hematocrit drop with endurance training because of increased plasma volume. This is easy to measure. The amount of red blood cells is the same, not less, it's the percentage that has fallen.

agreed

Jon Orange wrote:

An increase in blood volume causes a bigger sroke volume, although this doesn't increase oxgyen uptake, it does allow the athlete to work hard for longer.

not sure I agree.

Jon Orange wrote:

I have explained enough. If you want to read what I wrote in answer to your qeustions above, I don't want to keep repeating it today. People will just ask the same questions over and over if they haven't read through the thread. And why should they if they are only a little interested?

I've read it but am still thinking through your other longer response.

I don't believe an increase in blood volume improves middle distance performance, but for long distance it allows more sweating, although acclimation to heat stress will reduce salt losses through sweating.

Fajah wrote:

thejeff wrote:

"Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us."

God forgives; we forgive, too.

Do you have a stance on the Original Question?

God forgives? So what is hell for?

My stance on the original question is that you come up with some dumb ideas to avoid hard work.

ok