Genzebe Dibaba 3:55.17 indoor WR

Peer Mediator wrote:Wow! Your arrogance knows no bounds does it?

no

it looks for truth

You keep harping on about predicting Farah's 3:28 don't you

predictor

called it

I mean, even a broke clock tells the right time twice a day! 1 out of a hundred is a p*ss poor strike rate

i have no idea what this drivel is supposed to mean

all i know is predictor called 3'28 off mo's 50.9 finish coupla months earlier

Don't get too drunk will you. And be careful not to take your meds at the same time. LOL.

have fun

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for

999 days

( it called mo 3'28

& who knows how fast cram was in '85 having run

~ 6m extra

in his tactical 1'42.8 ???

try :

1'42-flat / 3'44-high

as start for 400 speed in '85... )

Ethiopian legs > Kenyan legs on women, by a lot. Her legs look pretty strong and sexy.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

'the key to her improvement is that she has joined a camp which, unlike the kenyans, seems to have a well-used weight's room

i have no idea how tall she is, but her thighs now look power-packed, meaning she is squatting/leg-pressing some serious loads & often

this has always been the key to 800/1500 running - lotta weights, especially squats/presses/curls/raises/etc

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Either that or she has been on steroids like the Chinese

Or look at what the Ruskia's did on roids

For what it's worth, I think his calculator gives some pretty damn good values. He called Mo's 3:28, has said before women's 1500 was due for some faster times, was correct that most good guys running 5000 now can still run 12:4x with a good fast race, the list goes on. Their is lots of evidence that his calculator is pretty damn good

I think issues arise with the conversions and adjustments V3 makes to the race in an effort to think about the optimum result.

People also don't take into account that predictions are generally for a perfect race as well and that happens very, very rarely. So, people here something like Rupp running 12:40 and immediately think no way...but the odds of a perfect race are really low. A more realistic result to expect from Rupp is something like 12:4x mid or high, and I have little reason to doubt Rupp is capable of running such a time.[/quote]

His "calculator" is good? Gimme a break. All you have to do to make the same predictions is basically, any race where somebody runs x time, if it wasn't perfectly paced, you say they could have run a little bit faster. And you also give them credit for being able to carry that performance over to its equivalent for a shorter or longer distance, based on whether or not the runner is a speed runner or a strength runner. It's not like something mystical going on. If the weather wasn't perfect, or if the track was sub-standard, or whatever, you make slight adjustments. It's not really that interesting. If somebody runs 60-60-60-59 for a 3:59 mile, then that's that. If they run 63-63-63-50 for a 3:59, then they could probably have run faster in some other situation. No sh*t! Who cares?

Why the guy has to be such an a-hole is anybody's guess.

This is preciesly what the jundo calculator does, and where I think it is pretty accurate. It can also do stuff people don't normally do. Obviously if Galen runs 12:55 5k, most people can make a pretty good guess that he is likely to be in 26:50 or better shape.

What most people can't do is go way outside of that common zone very well. No one was expecting 3'28" from Mo off his 5k ability even with his consistent 53" last laps. Using that 50 that Mo popped V3 was able to take the 400 and rough idea of Mo's 5k fitness to get an accurate 1500 ability.

You say that anyone can do this...and yet no one else really makes accurate, supported guesses about a runners fitness. And I certainly don't see people making accurate predictions about a runners 10k fitness given his 800 and 1500 fitness.

?

Are you a fan of running?

You don't find it at all interesting to speculate about whether Galen could target for say the 5000i record?

Or whether Dibaba might actually have the fitness to threaten records set by Ma's army and believed to be complete nonsense by most?

Usually thinking about these sorts of things are pretty fun for most runners, especially when we get into considering the chances athletes have of gunning for national, but especially world records.

I do agree on the a@@hole part though, no idea why he posts so aggressively...but then again so does 2/3's or LRC so even that is nothing new.

'the key to her improvement is that she has joined a camp which, unlike the kenyans, seems to have a well-used weight's room

i have no idea how tall she is, but her thighs now look power-packed, meaning she is squatting/leg-pressing some serious loads & often

this has always been the key to 800/1500 running - lotta weights, especially squats/presses/curls/raises/etc'

no

that was my post

& i stand by it

if you want to excel

800 - M

you have to work like prepared to wrestle cerberus into submission

meaning you better have

huge ( weight-training )

power in your legs

800 - 10k is dependent on :

how much upper body +

repeat leg-press + hamstring curls + toe raises + toe curls

+ again upper body - benches/presses

her thighs gotta her to

3'55iwr

why do I think all these lecherous lurker posts are by Douglas Burke posting under different names?

Answer: because he has history of posting creepy post w/ an Ethio-centric focus. that's why.

You have a problem with that?

Not really. Seems accurate?

Think he acts out?

Probably?

wake up people !!!!!!!!

mentioned THE LIGHTNESS IGF1-LR3 MANY TIMES !!!!

BEEN IN THE SPRINTS FOR YEARS now.

first xiang then powell then gay and bolt and then many

many others

finally reaching most events which realise has benefits in

all events . of enhanced nervous system amonsgt other things

HAVE YOU NOT NOTICED THE POLE VAULT OR HIGH JUMP LATELY

FINALLY PROGRESSIVE AGAIN SINCE DAYS OF SERIOUS ROID USE .

forget GW50 ,test it and stays in system for months

and need to be taking near race

for record ,rupp and farahs 10k pb due to it .

forget Reservatoral just an antioxidant go drink some wine

forget Hematide or any other epo-mimic ,as cant get

unrestricted use with high HCT due to biological passport

if new endurance drug needs to be similar to gw50 and other

pathways than high hct

will find out in summer

as for dibaba this could be just THE LIGHTNESS seeing in action all about speed .her endurance might be already

good enough like her sister ,so might be no new endurance drug involved besides whatever t3 or epo can get away with

like farahs 1500 pb and rupp both ON THE LIGHTNESS..

FOR RECORD ,

gw50 what rudisha was on ,

wait 6-8 weeks for the lightness to peak ,

then watch out .... ,cant keep peak going for too long

will notice in performances . can do a more continuous

smaller peak though as alternative what suits.

Question is why arent they testing for this stuff !

they know ,just want the events too be progression

as long as can .

said88 wrote:

Interesting that - according to the (old man)^3 - geb has chesed himself. There also seems to be a problem with the negations in his statement. Geb probably was capable, I think he want's to say.

In any way: good luck to all the people who still hope they will get an apology or something like that from him when he is - as so often - wrong on something.

post the ryun dusseldorf video you greedy fvck

said88 wrote:

I think 600m was more like 1:35,1 and 1000m 2:40,0 - but that's not so important. If 800m was - say 2:09,2 (PM was 2:08,97 or something like that) - than her 200m before was around 34,1 and her 200m after around 30,8. That's a very big difference to me. In the middle if the race. Maybe the PM dropped out and she drastically accelerated? Still little bit strange to me, but probably correct.

I took the splits a little differently.

The first 100 was covered in about 15 seconds. The next 200 was about 30 followed by a 33. After that I had 66.5 for the next 400 for a 2:24.5. If you take away the reported 2:09 half, she ran 15.5 seconds from 800-900. She followed that with a 30.5 to get to 2:55. A 30 lap got her to 3:25 and she closed with a final lap of 30.

I believe the lag in pace to 800 was caused by staying behind the pacer. At the 800, she accelerated from 33/lap pace to 31 and then faster to the finish.

Because of the sudden acceleration and how strong she looked finishing, I believe she could have went through in 2:07 and still finished strong to run 3:53. I believe 400-800 was a couple seconds too slow. I don't believe she could have run faster than 3:53 though even if she went through in 2:05 or 2:06.

Quit crying.Next time organize a meet without Ethiopians,Kenyans and Jamicans. You will feel better. Watch Tokyos olympic finish line and feel better. The man seems ready to run another 42K. lol

Ventolin what other times did you predict for Mo Farah over 1500m?

You always give 3 lines of fit so the other 2 were wrong. Factor in that for every Mo Farah who hits one of your lines of fit there are 20 that don't

As for weight training there was not much evidence of his leg strength in that 12.99 100m or on the bike race where he pedalled like a girl up that hill

How did Al Sal's stength training programme work with Webb?

3:28 off 49xx 400m speed = PED. At the point he ran that time for 1500m we did not realise that you were right on one of your lines of fit. We realised he was juicing. Ask Rojo what he thinks

stop hoarding it wrote:

said88 wrote:

Interesting that - according to the (old man)^3 - geb has chesed himself. There also seems to be a problem with the negations in his statement. Geb probably was capable, I think he want's to say.

In any way: good luck to all the people who still hope they will get an apology or something like that from him when he is - as so often - wrong on something.

post the ryun dusseldorf video you greedy fvck

What's wrong with you writing something like that? It sounds like an instruction - you think you can do that? And with these nice words at the end? How old are you?

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You've advertised your calculator 4 times in this thread so far. You should be banned.

race pace guru wrote:

I took the splits a little differently.

The first 100 was covered in about 15 seconds. The next 200 was about 30 followed by a 33. After that I had 66.5 for the next 400 for a 2:24.5. If you take away the reported 2:09 half, she ran 15.5 seconds from 800-900. She followed that with a 30.5 to get to 2:55. A 30 lap got her to 3:25 and she closed with a final lap of 30.

I took the times by examination of the race video (same as is to see on YouTube); I'm sure the times are correct. A change of pace from 34,1 to 30,8 still seems to be litle strange, but probably correct.

She was at about 2.39 with 500 m to go

ukathleticscoach wrote:

3:28 off 49xx 400m speed = PED. At the point he ran that time for 1500m we did not realise that you were right on one of your lines of fit. We realised he was juicing. Ask Rojo what he thinks

I think steve cram realised it too..

big chance of another wr for dibaba over 3000m later in the week.

what do ya think ventolin?

8-23?

helmat1 wrote:

She was at about 2.39 with 500 m to go

2:40,0

Ok..

XL galan 3000m later this week

she ran 8-26 last year

I say she takes it down this year!

Ventolin??